I don't want to see any server merging, and I'm sure someone will post a copy of the infamous reasons why (I would but I don't know currently where to look for one), which I also agree to.
However, I like to see something like what WoW did with PvP and have cross-server matches, so the whole PvP community can meet/fight with anyone who plays the game.
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thats actually a pretty decent idea, but i also think that guardian is just too slow, there aren't enough people on guardian and with the wave of ae babies pvp is going to remin very slow. maybe if there was a pvp zone for a bunch of servers to meet in? but i cant see that being very acheiveable.
I'm all for a server merge. But there is no need to have a lvl 50 ffa pvp zone. And even if there were another ffa zone there will still be teaming and the zone would have mostly all stalkers. Only reason I like the server merge idea is to have more people in pvp zones. It'd be nice to have more people with different skill ranges to join us.
@KoolVirus
I say /jranger to server merge, and /jranger to market merge.
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Yea I think hero side and villain side markets need to be merged. Villain side prices are way too expensive. I don't bother with purples anymore unless I have a toon that I will use for sure. I just make cheap builds now and they turn out fine. But a server merge would be nice.
@KoolVirus
But you also have to think about supergroups. If SGs would lose anything or if there are 2 SGs with the same name and would have to change it or something.
@KoolVirus
Found the post that I was referring to above. Its a long read, but I've found to be a good one, and agree on most of the points, though a bit harsh in language in a few parts, still makes good points.
Personally, my opinion is, if you don't like the server your on, move. I moved from Freedom to here and love the size and quality of people here 
Even paid to have my level 50 moved over here.
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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill Copypasta Why server consolidation is not a good idea. Welcome to the forum. You have posted one of the oft repeated suggestions, "Consolidate the servers." Disclaimer Yes. This is a cut and paste reply that I keep handy, as well as a quick bit of instruction on how to search. Neither are meant to cause fights or to be insulting. The search instructions are in, not just because forum rules say flat out to search, but to help you and anyone else reading this use the search tool effectively. The body of the cut and paste reply is the way it is because we've seen these arguments numerous times before. They're a summary of the salient points that come up each time. They are not here to insult you, make you feel stupid or otherwise "bring you down a peg." Instead, they are meant as instruction and information. Please read through the points and the explanation behind them to see the issues that are commonly brought up in response. They may not always match your suggestion 100% - in fact, you may have explained around one or two of them - but they're there for consideration and refinement of your idea. Yes, I do look forward to the time, with some of these suggestions, that someone not only addresses all the points, but does so exceptionally well. It'll probably be added to the end of the cut/paste reply, with credit. For now, though, read and consider the points. They really are just there to help you, and move discussion along to help ideas evolve. If you're going to see this and say an "evil forum vet is just shooting down your idea," or "You think you're the last word because of your post count," you're wrong. Heck, if you say the second, you've just worried more about my post count than I have in the last four plus years. Tongue-in-cheek comments in here are meant as hummor, not put downs. TL,DR section. First, my stock answer, one which I stand by and repeat with all due fervor. HELL NO. Searching effectively 1. Click on "Search" up at the top of the forum. 2. On the left, under "Forum(s) to search," select "Suggestions and ideas." 3. On the right, Keyword Search Terms. This is probably where your problem was if you did search. Try the following, exactly as typed: +server -pvp -"re: " This will search for anything with "Server" in the title, including Servers, Combine Servers, Consolidate Servers, and The Server At Mcdonalds Is Rude. it will eliminate "PVP," so you won't see PVP server requests, and the -re: portion of it removes replies, so you'll see the root of every thread that comes up, letting you see just how many threads there are on this. (The last helps for other subjects, as well.) 4. Click the "In subject" radio button. This is a search, not a cute blonde in a bikini. Here, you want to ignore the body. 5. Leave Username Search blank. 6. Date range, Newer Than, change the 1 to a 3, and the time to Months. 7. Result format doesn't matter. Click on "Submit." As I try this now, (12/3/08,) we have: Consolidate Server Server Stats RSS Feed $server modifier ofr chat Fix the forum server Earlyissue server Merging low population server Combine slow server Server status Global chat on the Character and Server Screens Rated M server Add Ponies, Nerf Vills, merge Servers, PistolMelee Server Visiting Display Central Time on Server Status Page Ignoring the smartalec reply, that's three full discussions about this topic. You should have read one of them if (inevitably) something similar comes up in your search. Now, on to the topic at hand.... Why server consolidation is not a good idea. 1. Just because YOU like living in New York City doesn't mean I can't like Kansas. Yay, you love having huge lag spikes as you get near the black market/wentworths and a busy broadcast. Congrats. Enjoy Freedom. Some of us - many of which you will get replies from with this subject - like *low population* servers. If we *wanted* to be on Freedom, we'd *be* on Freedom. I have characters on Freedom. I rarely play them (and actually moved a character OFF of Freedom to finish leveling it to 50) because *I DON'T LIKE FREEDOM.* I dislike the banality of broadcast, the high percentage of *horrid* teams I've come across there, the lag around any gathering point- and I've got a decent connection and system. For much the same reason, I typically startin Galaxy City instead of Atlas Park - I don't *want* to log in to a costume contest with several 50s spamming powers and nonsense arguments in broadcast. Some of us *like* nice, quiet servers. 2, Kansas, part 2. In addition, servers have their own personalities. No, I don't mean that literally, there's no AI to worry about if you start hearing "Daisy, Daisy" over your speakers or headset. Freedom's a crowded mess. Virtue is the RP server. Pinnacle is the "Drunk" server. Others have specific communities, such as those from Australia/NZ, Europe, etc. 3. "I only saw one other person. World of Conancraft has eleventy billion!" So what? We don't run around camping spawn points in this game. People are in missions. People are spread across many zones. Search on a map or do a /whoall and you'll miss those in missions, as well as those who are, for whatever reason, on /hide. Your "search" there didn't give you a full picture, not in the least. I understand the "feel" of things being "not very populated," but take a good look around when you're in game. Typically, you don't really have a lot of visibility. Standing in steel canyon, there could be multiple, full 8 person groups surrounding you, and it's likely you'd never see them. We have buildings, walls, architecture, trees and more limiting our visibility. Yes, it can make you feel more alone... but that's rarely the case. Add to that that the population is spread between many, MANY zones, most quite large, and among two sides... well... 4. "I put up my LFT flag and nothing happened!" Learn to search. Don't just wait. Form a team yourself. 5. "I AM SPARTACUS!" No, not any more. Remember logging in and seeing all those slots? Everyone has those - some buy more than the base 12, you get an extra one each year, you could have a total of 36 on any server. Everyone does. Every one has a character with a unique name. Maybe not a *good* name, but a unique one. Every one has a character with a unique name. Maybe not a *good* name, but a unique one. Now merge servers. Suddenly, CoolBlasterDude from server 1 is getting merged with CoolBlasterDude from Server 2. Who gets to keep their name? Nobody has been able to answer this with any degree of satisfaction. Add a number? But I am NOT CoolBlasterGuy1. And what if the name's too long? Does the older character keep it? What if they're not as active? People are *VERY* attached to their names. They are, quite obviously, part of their character. 6. "This Is SPARTA!" Sorry, Sparta exists already. You are GenericSG 8734 287 9798. What else has a name? Supergroups. And I can *guarandamntee* that the same name is in use on multiple servers. Sometimes it's 'branches' of the same SG, sometimes it's coincidence. But with *everything* involved in an SG - from its identity and reputation on the server, to everything stored in the database about what it owns, what its base is like and such, this would be a disaster in the making. And no, auto merging them when the servers merge, even if they have room to, is not an option. This, of course, assumes that they *CAN* move supergroups as a unit. More than likely, it'd just be a mass character move, with bases, prestige, anything stored in bases and all SG affiliations just gone forever. 7. "I am... where'd Spartacus go?" Remember all those slots? Well, you start with 1/3 of the available ones. You can buy up to 36 total (24 on top of the ones you get initially.) Now, what do you suppose would happen if you merged two servers, and someone has, say, 20 characters on each? Not unusual. In fact, before those extra slots, I had *filled up* several servers. Do those characters just disappear? Do they move? Free move to another server sounds great, right... well, except you now kick them from their supergroup, remove them from their friends lists and more. This makes for angry and unhappy customers. Or rather, ex customers. 8. I will play where I damn well want to. And you can too. And that should be blunt enough. If I want a crowded server, I'll go to Freedom. If I want an RP server, I'll go to Virtue. I do NOT want to be shoved onto another server I *don't* like. If I wanted to go there, *I'd be there.* If the server you're on isn't "busy" enough for you, you have two options that won't bother anyone else. (A) If it's low enough, reroll. You have a ton of character slots for a reason. (B) If you don't want to reroll, server transfers are available, and relatively cheap. They also finish fast - you should be up and running and being spammed to join someone's SG on the new server in a few minutes, in most instances. So YOU can go to the server of YOUR choice without screwing ME over. 9. "It'll free up server hardware for Freedom!" No, no it won't. Freedom, because of the load it tends to have, already has more resources dedicated to it than other servers. And ALL of the servers have been upgraded multiple times. The servers are not allocated exactly the same. The servers that handle less of a load have less dedicated to them. So this argument doesn't fly. 10. DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM! Last but not least (at least until better points come along to be added,) server consolidation is widely viewed in the industry as an MMO going on life support. No, we don't have WoWs numbers (and you should actually pay attention to when and how they got those.) They're an abberation in the MMO industry. COH has had and does have a very successful, sustainable population even at its lowest points, so there's no economic need to combine anything. The flip side of that, of course, has been suggested above - you crowd people together, break up their SGs and friends lists, cause characters to go missing and poeple definitely *will* quit, both out of annoyance and a sense of "The game is almost dead!" In conclusion.... As stated before, when it comes to server consolidation... HELL NO. |
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eh i'll read that later. i dont feel like reading all that now lol
@KoolVirus
The last line pretty much sums it up, heh.
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I thought this thread was about model railroads.
short and simple: no thank you
*gnaw other servers*
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There are other servers!?
I thought there was only one server in the universe and that was Guardian.
This thread confuses me. Merge the servers...to encourage PVP?
Why?
No server merges please, finnaly got this one going good!
Besides, Guardian has the best Bacon.
Sheesh. THIMK! O ye Server merge people, THINK! And go, go Gadget /jpowerranger.
You can merge my Server when you can pry it from my cold, dead network.
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Not really to encourage pvp but to bring more people into pvp zones that pvp on other servers.
@KoolVirus
Can yall give a reason why your against a server merge?
And i have thought about going to a different server but the main reason i still remain on guardian is because of the friends i have made.
@KoolVirus
Character names? o_o
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Memphis Bill's text quoted above did so. The one you didn't feel like reading.
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Originally Posted by Kool_Virus
Can yall give a reason why your against a server merge?
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The rule is that they must be loved. --Jayne Fynes-Clinton, Death of an Abandoned Dog
Indeed hehe. I've read some of it.
@KoolVirus
Well just to give a few reasons why I don't want to see server merging (most mentioned in Bill's quote). I'm sure many people agree with this, and of course many will not.
- I am attached to my server and don't want to mingle/merge with another one.
- I like the name I have for my ATs, servers merging would messed this up big time. How does one decided who keeps the name?
- SG/VGs with the same name now have conflicts
- If I have 25 ATs on server A and 25 ATs on server B, and they merge, where do the extra 14 ATs go? (only 36 slots per server)
- I'm on a server A known for 'X' and like it, I don't like server B, because it is known for Y. They combine and now we have X & Y mixing. Each server has its own personality, and that's why many like them.
I like my server, I like my name, I like my SG/VGs and I want to keep them. If my want to be on another server out weighs this, I will play on that server, as said before I left Freedom, and a very very nice solo VG Base that I had worked on for years to play with the nice folks here.
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As an addition to Bill's points, it can also be noted that it's much more difficult to build a good rapport when the pond is so much bigger.
While Maestintaolius or Swift can usually get something good going on Guardian via their connections due to the reputation of the TFs they host, it's much more difficult to do so on Virtue simply because of how many more people there are and the fact that the competition we're going up against include people like Smurphy who command a far larger response (and do note that I'm describing the TF speed run circuit and not the....whatever you want to call the local Guardian community someone like Pepsiman can be included in) than we do due to our split-server status (heroes on Guardian, villains on Virtue).
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(and do note that I'm describing the TF speed run circuit and not the....whatever you want to call the local Guardian community someone like Pepsiman can be included in)
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I was wondering if anyone thought it be a good idea to merg 2 of the smaller servers to improve the game play in both PVE and PVP, also why cant RV be like warburg where everyone can attack everyone or instead make another PVP zone @lvl 50 that works the same way warburg does?
i'm on guardian right now and would love to see us merg with another one of the smaller less active servers.... if anyone has any suggestions or ideas regarding how to acheive/approach this please feel free to contact me as i would be gald to go through the process and try to get results.