Challenging Ability

I am new to these game, so I hope this post is not offensive to the experienced players. I did spend some time searching for this idea and could not find it, but the search engine is kinda weird with the results it provides.

As I said, I am new and have spent many years playing other on-line games, such as DAOC, and WoW. Both of this games have a feature were two players can challenge each other into combat, any where, any time.

I realize this game has something referred as an Arena, which could simulate such an ability to challenge, but that is kinda out of the way and not spontaneous.

In both WoW and DAOC, a player could click on the other and like our trade window actually have a challenge window present itself. If the player says no, then no interaction can happen with the other. If the player says yes, the two players can now fight each other wherever they are, but are immune to effects and actions from other players; they are not immune to effects and actions from mobs.

I would like to see this ability, as a quality of life or convenience kind of thing. So if another player is egging you, you could challenge them, if two players want to test each other they could do as well, with out the formality of an arena match (whose maps I frankly could care less for).

This is called '/duel' and the commron response is HELL NO.

If you really want to fight someone, that's what the arena is for. If someone's being irritating, /ignore works wonders.

I will support this on one condition - that there be a cooldown no less than 60 seconds placed on it. To prevent people being jerks by spamming you with duel requests when you're trying to do something else.

Ha ha ha, that was funny!

I agree withthe cool down, and perhaps an auto spam duel feature, say if a player challenges you more than 3 times in a minute, the challenge is automatically ignored. So you don't get the window spammed on you ove and over.

/arenalist

bringsup the arena console anywhere in the game

create your match conditions and list.

/ai playername

invites your opponent

Hit start match and you are ported into an arena instance and away you go.
After the match you exit and get ported right back.


Thats as far down the /duel route this dev team will likely go. (and /arenalist is a very new command).

PVP is only to take place in specific instances, the zones, the arena and bases (when enabled), never in the regular PVE zones.

I would approve of this suggestion, pending the following features:

Cool down time as mentioned, 30-60 seconds most likely.
A setting to automatically ignore challenges.
Said setting automatically flagged for everyone.
Is not level adjusted. If you're stupid enough to challenge a 50, you face a 50.

...And is confined SOLELY to PVP zones; does not work at all in regular PVE-only zones. That way the people who want to use it can only use it on people who consent to PVP.

I must admit that I find it VERY irritating when you're fighting another player in a PVP zone and a Stalker just ganks you for an easy kill. But yeah, that is what the arena is for.

There's an Arena command in the options list now. Lets you set up a fight and invite anyone you like to it (using the same command)

So....for all intents and purposes, there IS a duel feature now.

I like the idea of being able to duel in game, with out having to go to the arena. On the other hand being teleported to the arena to do the match, that is very convenient, and solves issues of others interfering.

On the other hand, I do not like the arena match maps, they are little, and do not lend themselves for tactical use needed for specific ATs and builds to benefit from, they are just too small and sterile in a way. Being able to fight in a zone, and have the entire zone, could lead to a lot of fun and fancy tactics.

With regards to duel break out in very public places such as the tram, consignment house, these areas could have a no duel zone, so if you try to duel challenge somoene, you can't, and if you were dueling and enter the area you automatically come off duel mode.

Hugs

Stormy

/unsigned

I PvP rarely, but I appreciate that there are specific and controlled conditions that I can seek out to engage in such behavior and that it never threatens to intercede itself in my normal game play.

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Originally Posted by ToySoldierZolgar Eh, my point was to make the option in such a way that it had no negative effects on those who do not want to participate, and those who do, have to have at least enough brains to know how to turn it on.

But, the very presence of this option will have negative effects for a player/character with zero interest in dueling. The last, last, LAST thing I want is to be moving through a zone, standing in WW, or whatnot and get peppered with duel invites.

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Originally Posted by ToySoldierZolgar The anti-PvP sentiment of this game annoys me. And I HATE PVP!

1. Whether dueling or otherwise, combat of a player against another player is, by its very definition, PvP. I suspect you are indicating that you favor a specific sub-set of PvP, rather than "hating" it.
2. I do not consider my opinion against the suggestion to be anti-pvp. I see the QoL suggestion to be something that threatens the QoL of more people than it would benefit.
3. I think the common perception of the comic heroes does not have them running around asking to fight each other. The Arena certainly serves as an immersion supporting "practice" area.
4. The comments against the idea are simply pointing out what others find wrong with the suggestion. These are not necessarily 'attacks' or anti-pvp lynch-mobs.

Until they actually make PvP functional, and make it operate in a way at least reminiscent of the real game (rather than it's current existence where things that work in PvE have little or no effect in PvP, so that the game is entirely different in PvP), any "improvements" to the PvP culture should be put by the wayside.

Let's get working PvP before we start talking about improving the PvP "way of life". Cart before the horse and all that.