Something Bothering Me Of Late
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BBhumeBB,
Posted on: 2009-10-19 24:41 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
Time is just such a precious thing, that's all. They have to validate the things they're doing now by blasting their prior hobbies. Try not to take it so personally, as it's just a coping mechanism. If the time they spent here was so great, then they'd feel guilty for leaving. Poo-colored goggles, if you will.
This is the same way that console fanboys are born. They have to talk to other people about how superior their console of choice is in order to validate the hundreds of dollars they spent.
Because you can only like what you're playing now. It you left it, you did so for a reason, and you can't be wrong, so therefore it must suck.
Now, tell Dr. NT, how does that make you feel?
Edit: Gah, beaten to the post!
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Originally Posted by Moiread
I don't think I've ever started a thread in this section before, but I've noticed something happening with more and more frequency over the last few months, and it's bothering me.
Most of the people I've played with over the 5 years have moved on to other games. That's happens, I know. It's normal, it's expected. What I didn't expect though, was when many of those people suddenly started behaving like the time they spent here was 'lame', 'stupid', or 'a waste of time and money'. Sigh. I guess this is a stupid thing to be upset over, but it makes me sad. Okay, they like the games they're playing now, I get it, but why does that invalidate all the good times we used to have? Why is playing CoX for five years suddenly something to regret and lament? |
Im one of those people who love remembering the "good old days" and looking at pictures/cards etc to remember how things used to be [whether it be bad or good].
Same applies to a game, if i stopped playing a game then i dont think about the end, i think about the reasons which made me stick with that game for so long.
Like right now im still playing football manager games, because i've stopped playing the old ones does it mean i think they're now rubbish? Nope not at all, i remember those times when by sheer luck i ran into a new wonderkid and trained him up to be a world star.
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You will understand it after you will end a 5 year old relationship or marriage.
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Originally Posted by Moiread
I don't think I've ever started a thread in this section before, but I've noticed something happening with more and more frequency over the last few months, and it's bothering me.
Most of the people I've played with over the 5 years have moved on to other games. That's happens, I know. It's normal, it's expected. What I didn't expect though, was when many of those people suddenly started behaving like the time they spent here was 'lame', 'stupid', or 'a waste of time and money'. Sigh. I guess this is a stupid thing to be upset over, but it makes me sad. Okay, they like the games they're playing now, I get it, but why does that invalidate all the good times we used to have? Why is playing CoX for five years suddenly something to regret and lament? |
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This is dead on right here.|
Originally Posted by Gehnen
Time is just such a precious thing, that's all. They have to validate the things they're doing now by blasting their prior hobbies. Try not to take it so personally, as it's just a coping mechanism. If the time they spent here was so great, then they'd feel guilty for leaving. Poo-colored goggles, if you will.
This is the same way that console fanboys are born. They have to talk to other people about how superior their console of choice is in order to validate the hundreds of dollars they spent. |
That being said, or pointed out, I hope I can look back on this game fondly if I ever left. Some great times here... Great times.
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I figure if I ever move on to another MMO, it'll be because someone's made a better one, not because this one has suddenly started to suck. Even when I've taken some time off because they'e done something that's annoyed me, it hasn't colored my recollection of the fun times I had before Stupid Change X ticked me off.|
Originally Posted by Joe_Schmoe
That being said, or pointed out, I hope I can look back on this game fondly if I ever left. Some great times here... Great times.
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It's kind of a weird attitude, and seems to be confined to the world of electronics and software. I mean, I don't know anyone who's bought a car, been perfectly happy with it for five years, then traded it in on a new one and suddenly become a complete bore about what a piece of junk the old one was.
Gehnen hit it pretty much, it's a typical tactic for self-justification. People who are confident in themselves can admit they've moved on emotionally or with their interests, and do it without trashing what they've done. People who are less so, or not self-aware, tend to pump up what they're doing now by picking on the easiest available target, which was their prior love.
"Null is as much an argument "for removing the cottage rule" as the moon being round is for buying tennis shoes." -Memphis Bill
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There is a lot of that, yes. I must admit, this is exactly the way I feel about Diablo 2, though in that case, I'm not sure I ever enjoyed the game. Back then I played games out of habit, and it's bitten me many times here in City of Heroes when I catch myself doing things I don't want to just because I feel I "should."|
Originally Posted by Lemur Lad
Gehnen hit it pretty much, it's a typical tactic for self-justification. People who are confident in themselves can admit they've moved on emotionally or with their interests, and do it without trashing what they've done. People who are less so, or not self-aware, tend to pump up what they're doing now by picking on the easiest available target, which was their prior love.
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More to point, there's likely another factor at play. When you find the next big thing you really like, it's often easy to look back at the old things and think "Man, I wish I were doing this all along!" This, however, is a pretty bad case of hindsight, because an old game that you've played inside and out is never going to beat the novelty of a new game you just started (provided it's good). It's simply not fair to think that, because you like this new one so much, the old one must have sucked. Far as I'm concerned, if you've stuck with a game for five years and you switch, you're really going to have to spend five years with another one before you can claim how much the previous one sucked so bad. Once the new becomes old and familiar, only then is it really fair to judge.
Generally, finding a game you want to play more does not automatically invalidate the game you came from or make it bad. It was good enough for you to pick it up and stick with it, so it's at least THAT good.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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There are exceptions to that, but I'll grant you the point generally speaking. At times there are games that get screwed up and that makes them bad. Case in point, Star Wars Galaxies. I miss the good things about my time there, but my hatred of their decisions to kill most of the aspects I loved most, will poison my memory for all time. It was good enough for me to pick up, play, and love. However it became not that game by the time I gave it up.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
Generally, finding a game you want to play more does not automatically invalidate the game you came from or make it bad. It was good enough for you to pick it up and stick with it, so it's at least THAT good.
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"Null is as much an argument "for removing the cottage rule" as the moon being round is for buying tennis shoes." -Memphis Bill
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Granted, some games do get screwed up. Let's say when you find a new, better game, that does not make the old game bad. It's quite natural to move onto newer games as time moves on and to just get bored of old games through no fault of their own. Quitting an MMO isn't something to be ashamed of or something that needs to be justified.
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Originally Posted by Lemur Lad
There are exceptions to that, but I'll grant you the point generally speaking. At times there are games that get screwed up and that makes them bad. Case in point, Star Wars Galaxies. I miss the good things about my time there, but my hatred of their decisions to kill most of the aspects I loved most, will poison my memory for all time. It was good enough for me to pick up, play, and love. However it became not that game by the time I gave it up.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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It definitely happens with relationships, as well. I don't know, does that possibly say something about how strongly people feel about games? Or maybe it's just down to time investment - in general, people don't invest a whole lot of time into their cars. On the other hand, relationships and games - especially MMOS - are huge time and effort sinks.|
Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
It's kind of a weird attitude, and seems to be confined to the world of electronics and software. I mean, I don't know anyone who's bought a car, been perfectly happy with it for five years, then traded it in on a new one and suddenly become a complete bore about what a piece of junk the old one was.
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In response to the OP, I have noticed the same attitude as well. Not in everyone who's left by any stretch, but it certainly happens. I think a lot of the responses here are spot-on about the reasoning. In some cases it could also be people coming back and wishing their friends from here had also moved on to the new shiny game, and end up acting like this is the inferior game.
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exactly this. "I have a ps3 so I hate Nintendo and Xbox"|
Originally Posted by Gehnen
Time is just such a precious thing, that's all. They have to validate the things they're doing now by blasting their prior hobbies. Try not to take it so personally, as it's just a coping mechanism. If the time they spent here was so great, then they'd feel guilty for leaving. Poo-colored goggles, if you will.
This is the same way that console fanboys are born. They have to talk to other people about how superior their console of choice is in order to validate the hundreds of dollars they spent. |
"well I have an Xbox360 and I hate Nintendo and Sony"
"well I have a Wii and I hate Sony and Xbox"
*slappy nerd rage ensues*
Yeah, as the posters above said, and now to paraphrase in my own style, "Coz, people are dumb." It's a little bit of self-justification for leaving their old game and a little bit of guilt-management for having more fun in their new game. There's no need for it, but it makes them feel better about their decision to change games.
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Originally Posted by beyeajus74018
exactly this. "I have a ps3 so I hate Nintendo and Xbox"
"well I have an Xbox360 and I hate Nintendo and Sony" "well I have a Wii and I hate Sony and Xbox" *slappy nerd rage ensues* |
"I tend to like all of them, but, unlike SOME PEOPLE, I can only afford one."
Before knocking their heads together while they try and fathom that, and steal all the consoles on the way out.
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
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When I was a bit younger and most of my friends still lived close by we regularly held LAN-parties. One guy was often annoying because he insisted on the games always being new and would whine whenever some of us wanted to play something older for a bit, as if somehow that game was never fun to begin with despite us all knowing how much he loved it when it first came out. No sense of nostalgia I guess, he never understood why the rest of us admired classic cars more than the latest models either.
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Originally Posted by Moiread
Okay, they like the games they're playing now, I get it, but why does that invalidate all the good times we used to have?
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Sounds like a divorce...
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Breaking up is hard to do. Many people leaving something they used to think was cool must, for a wide variety of reasons, make it about some terrible failing on the part of the person, relationship, pastime, group, or other entity that they are leaving.
Any expression of admiration or pleasant feeling towards this entity is a personal attack on them, since it challenges their narrative of the utter baseness of the former object of affection.
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... Did you just say that with a straight typeface?
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Originally Posted by BBhumeBB
... it challenges their narrative of the utter baseness of the former object of affection.
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Originally Posted by BBhumeBB
..Any expression of admiration or pleasant feeling towards this entity is a personal attack on them, since it challenges their narrative of the utter baseness of the former object of affection.
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<looks up the word "challenges". Finds this sentence under example.>
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I used to love City of Heroes until I learned it was cheating on me with anyone who wanted a fun time and had a credit card.|
Originally Posted by Moiread
I don't think I've ever started a thread in this section before, but I've noticed something happening with more and more frequency over the last few months, and it's bothering me.
Most of the people I've played with over the 5 years have moved on to other games. That's happens, I know. It's normal, it's expected. What I didn't expect though, was when many of those people suddenly started behaving like the time they spent here was 'lame', 'stupid', or 'a waste of time and money'. Sigh. I guess this is a stupid thing to be upset over, but it makes me sad. Okay, they like the games they're playing now, I get it, but why does that invalidate all the good times we used to have? Why is playing CoX for five years suddenly something to regret and lament? |
Wait, that was my ex-girlfriend.
Never mind.
The only thing thats bothering me as of late is the constant talk from players, ingame, that CoX is dead. I use to be able to ignore most idiots but when the other 7 players start yappin about how this game is dying, etc etc it actually affects me. 
i r sad cloud
I don't think I've ever started a thread in this section before, but I've noticed something happening with more and more frequency over the last few months, and it's bothering me.
Most of the people I've played with over the 5 years have moved on to other games. That's happens, I know. It's normal, it's expected. What I didn't expect though, was when many of those people suddenly started behaving like the time they spent here was 'lame', 'stupid', or 'a waste of time and money'.
Sigh. I guess this is a stupid thing to be upset over, but it makes me sad. Okay, they like the games they're playing now, I get it, but why does that invalidate all the good times we used to have? Why is playing CoX for five years suddenly something to regret and lament?