Discussion: The First Annual Architect Awards *** Submissions are now CLOSED ***


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I see I'm not the only person to notice;
"Open to legal residents of the United States and Canada"

Come on, guys, does the EU REALLY count for so little? I'm quite a creative person, I would have quite liked to have put one of my arcs up for contest.
Just...bah. Its so irritating.
Would Paragon have to deal with one legal entity (EU), or deal with the rules of every EU member nation?

If they got the rights for a contest with US citizens (not RI), Swedish, and Czech citizens, would that make matters better (At least they're trying) or worse (Hey, my EU nation isn't mentioned, no fair)

Maybe contacting corporate will provide answers? They're most likely the ones putting that language in there, not anyone who reads these boards ... http://www.ncsoft.net/global/support/contact.aspx


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kinda disappointed that the EU is once again passed over, however pending the outcome I'd be willing to forgive the Devteam if:

  • They Don't do a CO "Sakura Park" Blunder.
  • They sort out including EU accounts in future competitions
  • The winning story is actually a good story and not an Arc that has just been played 999 times because its on the first page...



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Yes, it sucks that the EU players get excluded - but legal issues being what they are, I really doubt Paragon Studios has the resources to get the legal okay from every nation that has players in order to meet prize eligibility requirements.

Request to Niviene, Avatea, or Mod8 - would you please edit the primary post to include a legal (and redname) explanation for the exclusion of RI and the EU players? I think it would go a long way for explaining to the worldwide folks that it's not about you guys shafting the players, it's the LAWYERS shafting the players.

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I have a question about the contest, not a comment:

When I save a local copy of my story arc to my computer to attach to an email, the STORYARC file already has the info for the Custom Critters and the Custom Villain Groups within it. Therefor, ins't it unnecessary to also attach the critter and cvg files? I ask because, although it seems redundant, I also don't want to be disqualified, especially since I may not have those files on my computer any longer.

Other than that, I just need to get 5 screenshots and I'm set.


 

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Originally Posted by TsumijuZero View Post
kinda disappointed that the EU is once again passed over, however pending the outcome I'd be willing to forgive the Devteam if:
  • They Don't do a CO "Sakura Park" Blunder.
  • They sort out including EU accounts in future competitions
  • The winning story is actually a good story and not an Arc that has just been played 999 times because its on the first page...
I have no dobut that folks will complain no matter how the winner is chosen.

personally, i'm not too impressed with any of the prizes, but that's just me.


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It is our great pleasure to announce the First Annual Architect Awards, which will be hosted at this year's Hero-Con!
Avatea, when you make announcements about contests or awards like this, could you please mention early on if it only applies to one region and not leave that for the terms and conditions section?

I understand the legal reasons why you have to limit these kind of things to only one region, but it does get rather annoying when the announcement is written as if they are general and for everybody.


 

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Originally Posted by Dark_Respite View Post
Niv, Av, or Mod8 - tell whoever is updating the HeroCon website that it's "In-Canon", not "In-Cannon" - we are not shooting arcs into a net.
YOU may not ... hold on. *plugs ears, waits for explosion.*

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Ah, this must be what Positron was hinting at in a recent Gamespy interview. A chance to be plucked from obscurity and have your arc recognised.

As with many above I think that NCSoft not opening their competitions world-wide (considering their international playerbase), is a disappointing move. Although it's never been stated by Paragon Studios we're all pretty certain it's because of the variety of competition laws around the world. I for one think that Posi and the team should find a relatively small cupboard to put the lawyers objections in (and maybe the lawyers themselves) and make all CoH/CoV competitions truly international.

It's not like it can't be done, there are plenty of international sweepstakes and competitions out there in the world, and I suspect it comes down to a matter of cost rather than effort.


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It's not like it can't be done, there are plenty of international sweepstakes and competitions out there in the world, and I suspect it comes down to a matter of cost rather than effort.
A question, as a counter point (Not picking on you or anything. .

Would you like them to get all the legal things fixed for international contest entry if it delayed GR by 4 months? Or prevented $FEATURE_YOU_REALLY_WANT_IN_GR from launching with the rest of GR?

Money to pay a dev to work on these things, or pay a lawyer to iron all these legal wrinkles?


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If it is to be the case that non-USA players are simply not going to be able to be included, then I suggest that these competitions are not a viable promotional tool and something more effective and less divisive be implemented.

If memory serves, this is not the first competition that NCSoft has run in COH, and it is not the first wherein non-USA players have been excluded. Blaming the lawyers only works the first time - if the format is not appropriate, a different format should be used.

Excluding members of the playerbase, without some sort of recompense or equivalent competition, is not an appropriate format.


 

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A question, as a counter point (Not picking on you or anything. .

Would you like them to get all the legal things fixed for international contest entry if it delayed GR by 4 months? Or prevented $FEATURE_YOU_REALLY_WANT_IN_GR from launching with the rest of GR?

Money to pay a dev to work on these things, or pay a lawyer to iron all these legal wrinkles?
Maybe they should do a competition to see who can raise the most money for the epic battle of NCSoft vs DoomLawyers?


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As with many above I think that NCSoft not opening their competitions world-wide (considering their international playerbase), is a disappointing move. Although it's never been stated by Paragon Studios we're all pretty certain it's because of the variety of competition laws around the world. I for one think that Posi and the team should find a relatively small cupboard to put the lawyers objections in (and maybe the lawyers themselves) and make all CoH/CoV competitions truly international.

It's not like it can't be done, there are plenty of international sweepstakes and competitions out there in the world, and I suspect it comes down to a matter of cost rather than effort.
Usually what happens is they can offer you the title, but not the prize. Some law prevents the giveaway due to the value of the item or something like that. You could have your arc be called Arc of the Year, but you couldn't get the video card for it.

Obviously quite a few players would be just fine with that. They want the prestige, not the hardware. It's just really hard to throw a publicity stunt where the winner doesn't actually get to receive their prize.

(Actually, on second thought, I'm not sure its legal to hold a contest where the winner doesn't receive their prize... hmm... I think it all just comes down to being more trouble than its worth)


 

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Tell you what, if the eventual winner for Arc of the Year is an arc published between now and October 11th, I'll eat my left sock...

If the winner for Arc of the Year is an arc published sometime in the month of April (say, one of those storyarcs that had a headstart with the Closed Beta, like 80% of the "Developer's Choice" arcs) -- I'll toss my socks into the laundry, and treat myself to a pizza instead, having "called it"...

[An arc "republished" in the next two weeks doesn't count (unless it's pretty obviously been republished due to all the I16 MA changes)...]

If an arc published between I15 and October 1st wins the contest, well, they'll have my sincere congratulations and respect for their creative ability. (And, yeah, I might even lose a little bit of my deep cynicism about the Mission Architect system, and how it has impacted the game.)

Now how do I go about subscribing to this thread?!?
Can you explain to me how it is relevant when the arc was first published? I believe it was in the "memorable quotes" thread that someone said how old something is doesn't matter, good is good.


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Originally Posted by Coolio View Post
EU???
No U.






Or make that "no EU"

I'm sure there's a good legal reason why they've made it that way - but I think you can still win the title, even if you can't get the prize - they might even find a way to give you an in-game title too.




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Hmm what do you think we should focus on in terms of screenshots?



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1. ENTRY

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  1. Your global name (the name of your first in-game character)...

I hate to have to fight about semantics about the rules (as usual), but are we really disqualified if we changed our global names from our original character name?

Or is this asking for @globalname(originalcharactername)?

Why am I bother posting it here?
It is highly unlikely that a RED name will answer this question here.


 

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I hate to have to fight about semantics about the rules (as usual), but are we really disqualified if we changed our global names from our original character name?

Or is this asking for @globalname(originalcharactername)?

Why am I bother posting it here?
It is highly unlikely that a RED name will answer this question here.
I think that was just poorly worded. I am completely confident they mean your current global.


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Might I suggest that there be a "humorous" and "serious" winner for each category?


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Nominees will be announced on Thursday October 22, 2009. Final winners will be announced at Hero-Con, Saturday, October 24, 2009.

Good luck! We look forward to playing your submitted Mission Architect arcs!

...

Good luck playing all the arcs that will be sent in between now and Oct 22 in order to determine the nominees.

It will be quite challenging to get through them all in that amount of time.

I hope that there are plenty of snacks and caffeine available.

Anyone want to guess at how many thousand entries they will get?

10k? 50k? 100k? 200k?


 

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So non-Americans can't enter again.
Hey Canadians aren't Americans, but ya that sucks.

Also is there a farm category


 

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Hmm, -rep with just 'Yes' as a comment? No name, as usual.
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I know I was actually ignorant of the fact that international laws were such a swine, something that was remedied as soon as people brought up the actualy reasons.
Sorry some of us aren't such knowalls.


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You mean there is people who still uses M.A.? Wow.


 

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I was thinking that perhaps instead of giving out prices with monetary worth which leads to EU and RI folks is more or less automatically disqualified from participating, the price is a donation to a charity which the winner selects (from a vetted list).

That way the person who wins get to do a good deed and the kudos for making a great arc.

Good idea/bad idea? What do YOU think?


 

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You know, J_O_A_T, that's a damn cool idea.

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