Discussion: Double XP Weekend and Account Reactivation


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Alright, just came back to see what this is all about... now this is cool and everything who are still attached to this game. Looking at it from a realistic standpoint this is just an attempt to get subs back to this game from new MMO's that were released. You can nerdrage this all you would like, but the sad truth of the matter is... is that its a terrible attempt to get their lost subs back. The extension was due to the quota they failed to reach in # of people. So don't think they did this for anyone here.


 

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... The extension was due to the quota they failed to reach in # of people. So don't think they did this for anyone here.
I'm curious, is this based on any evidence whatsoever, or is that just an assumption on your part?


 

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Hmmph, i logged in Thursday night, friday during the day, saturday night, and earlier this morning, and all servers were green, and I stood around looking for a team for at least 20-30 minutes a pop, and the servers seemed bone dry.

Just seemed odd, its too bad, this was one of my favorite games for a long time, its sad to see the lack of support to be so harsh.


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Originally Posted by Mr ? View Post
Believe me, I am not gloating, but having met a few of these people in game, I stand by my post, How you play the game is up to you, but there is a much bigger game out there, outside of AP and I know you and others have been in game long enough to realize this.
Yes, there is a bigger game out there. you are absolutely right. I also have seen alot of AE Babies in action, And I agree that they really do need to get out of AE and experience the game.

As a vet...It would have been nice to gain double XP in AE, The recipe rolls really do help me out alot when slotting up a build. It saves me alot of time, and I dont get to play as much as I would like >.<


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I think this is a great idea and I'm sure I'm not alone in that. Combining these two things gives everyone a chance to taste the changes made with i16, and if they like them keep their accounts going afterwards. Great thinking! The downside... getting mapservered every 5 minutes gives old AND new players bad impressions of the game. I'd like to mention these aren't standard "lag mapservers", these are hard disconnects. They don't go away after a time (atleast for me) and always result in you getting booted. I'm sure NCSoft will respond that it is a problem with the connection on my end, the problem with that logic is it has happened to entire teams I was on at the same time. Something is very wrong here and you guys should seriously look into getting it fixed.

EDIT: I just re-logged in after posting this and within 30 seconds was mapservered right back out again. This is __EXTREMELY__ frustrating and annoying.

EDIT2: Asking on the level 50 global channel, which has many many people on it, it seems there are quite a few also experiencing mapservers, lags and rubberbanding. Someone else in my SG is getting the constant hard drops like I am as well. It may be worse for me because I am on a wifi connection and wireless doesn't seem to handle lost packets very well.

EDIT3: I just PM'd Dark Watcher about this issue with the following: "Hi, sorry to bother you but someone on one of my global channels said you're watching the server performance during the 2x. I just wanted to see if you could take a look at Guardian. There are atleast 3 people being affected by constant random disconnects. Myself (@Torrent, @Godlike), an SG mate of mine (@Pronator, @Miosane) and someone from the Guardian global channel (@Ralas). Others on the Level 50 global channel have mentioned getting mapservers and rubberbanding (I didn't make note of global names). Could you please look into this? It's been happening to me since yesterday but has been much worse the past few hours. Thanks."

EDIT4: Two days later and the problems are still going on. Apparently people don't check their PMs. SG mate of mine is still also having issues, just as often as I am. I play for 15 minutes, drop. Relog, play 20 more minutes, drop. Relog, play 2 minutes, drop. Relog, play 45 minutes, drop. It is very very irritating and making me not want to play this game even if it is FREE to do so right now! Which is pretty sad. There are strange glitches happening all over in the game, from the market to crafting (making items and having the recipes or salvages not disappear) to power recharge displays sticking. I don't know if it's from lag or the game trying to do too much crap all at once (read: QUIT ADDING MORE FEATURES, they slow everything down). Does anything in CoH work right anymore?
I'm having some wierd effects happening to me.

1. First major thing is TONS of rubberbanding. I almost cannot play unless in a mission.
2. Second thing, is the sound effects are lagging behind (which might actually be a good thing, because if sound effects occur seperately.... no wait.... that's wierd, they should go off on my machine only. Why are they lagging when the powers are executing?)
3. My pets aren't attaching to me in out of instance.
4. Major pets in elevator bugs. They think I'm in two places at once.


 

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I'm disappointed in what I saw and heard over Double XP weekend.

First, seeing virtually all of the servers green except for Freedom which was yellow -- regardless of when I logged on -- was disturbing. In the past, I was always locked out of Freedom on these weekends. That's one of the reasons I started developing toons on other servers. Does this mean that CO is really hurting our subscriber base? What the heck is going on?

Second, my brutes with Invincibility - the toons I most enjoy leveling during these events -- were unplayable. The last patch "broke" Invincibility so that it played this really ANNOYING mechanical sound every time it came into contact with a mob. The only workarounds were turning off your sound or turning off FX in-game, which stripped them all away. I understand this is fixed on Test, but if you're trying to lure back subscribers, drowning out their favorite toons with SFX-gone-wild ain't the way to do it.

Third, no 2x in AE. Now I get that this was normal - and that in the past, getting double exp. in AE was the mistake -- but now that some time has passed since the dev's "fixed" AE, I fear (DOOOMMMMM!) that "ending farming" with lost experience and super-sidekicking is backfiring on CoX. Places that used to be hopping are now deserted. (this didn't bother me before ... but did when I saw how empty the servers were on 2X weekend.)

On a good note, I'm glad they extended the weekend over until Monday so that people who normally don't get to take advantage of 2x experience can.


 

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Originally Posted by Galactic_Hobo View Post
I'm disappointed in what I saw and heard over Double XP weekend.

First, seeing virtually all of the servers green except for Freedom which was yellow -- regardless of when I logged on -- was disturbing. In the past, I was always locked out of Freedom on these weekends. That's one of the reasons I started developing toons on other servers. Does this mean that CO is really hurting our subscriber base? What the heck is going on?
Upgraded servers can handle more players, so medium loads would still be likely to show as green now rather than yellow.


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First, seeing virtually all of the servers green except for Freedom which was yellow -- regardless of when I logged on -- was disturbing. In the past, I was always locked out of Freedom on these weekends. That's one of the reasons I started developing toons on other servers. Does this mean that CO is really hurting our subscriber base? What the heck is going on?
As has been noted previously. The servers have been upgraded. The color indicators are for system load, not population. The current server setup can handle higher loads before the indicators bump. What would have, previously, been a locked-out server is now either yellow or sometimes green.

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Second, my brutes with Invincibility - the toons I most enjoy leveling during these events -- were unplayable. The last patch "broke" Invincibility so that it played this really ANNOYING mechanical sound every time it came into contact with a mob.
This is a known issue. Was broken with the last patch. The current patch on Test fixes this. But there wasn't time to roll it out before the event.

C'est la vie.

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Third, no 2x in AE.
This was a bug. The devs acknowledged it was a bug. But, by the time it was discovered, the event had already started. By the time a patch could be written for this, the even would probably be over. And how do you explain a multi-hour maintenance in the middle of such an event? Which would go over better?

You can still play this, but you won't get double XP (though you can play regular content and get double XP).

OR

You can't play for a couple hours, we're fixing stuff. Go pound sand.

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Now I get that this was normal - and that in the past, getting double exp. in AE was the mistake
No. No it's not. Again, you're supposed to get doubled XP in the Architect. It was a bug that's preventing it.

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I fear (DOOOMMMMM!) that "ending farming"...
The changes to sidekicking and the Architect had NOTHING to do with farming. They were about removing the ability to abuse certain game mechanics for undue rewards. See "Exploits".


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Places that used to be hopping are now deserted. (this didn't bother me before ... but did when I saw how empty the servers were on 2X weekend.)
The MA isn't the whole server.

My Global list was jumping this weekend with a lot of people I haven't seen in a while. Most of them, strangely enough, on 8-man teams.

Translation, there were a lot more people on this weekend. They simply weren't crowding in AP, broadcasting for PL.

Note: A lot of them on Virtue were crowding into multiple instances of PI for PL. Freedom popped multiple instances a time or two as well.

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On a good note, I'm glad they extended the weekend over until Monday so that people who normally don't get to take advantage of 2x experience can.
Something I agree with. Maybe you're not all bad.



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Ok I do believe the servers (Freedom and Virtue) had their capacity increased over a year ago. Keeping that in mind, the amount of players is much lower now than compared to a August. Also, the last 2XP weekend as well as this one have not been busy when comparing them to the previous 2XP weekends.

It would be nice to see the servers hit medium and heavy loads but they are not. People have left the game and may/may not return. Nobody can say. I think people should face facts - the game's player base is declining. Hopefully this turns around.

It is unfortunate. This game can compete with a lot of MMOs including the new ones but too many weak updates. This game has stagnated but I hope GR changes that.


 

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Kind of sucks when the feature that makes the game fresh and new all the time didn't work for double experience. If they really cared and didn't just disable double exp in the MA< they'd have a MA D-E only weekend. Far too convenient. I didn't see anyone on. No one is ever in Cimerora ever. I log in every night, no way to even get those costume pieces on one character, and I have 7 I want it on. Oh well.


 

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I didn't see anyone on. No one is ever in Cimerora ever.
Then who was I doing the ITF with last night?


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I'm disappointed in what I saw and heard over Double XP weekend.

First, seeing virtually all of the servers green except for Freedom which was yellow -- regardless of when I logged on -- was disturbing. In the past, I was always locked out of Freedom on these weekends. That's one of the reasons I started developing toons on other servers. Does this mean that CO is really hurting our subscriber base? What the heck is going on?

Second, my brutes with Invincibility - the toons I most enjoy leveling during these events -- were unplayable. The last patch "broke" Invincibility so that it played this really ANNOYING mechanical sound every time it came into contact with a mob. The only workarounds were turning off your sound or turning off FX in-game, which stripped them all away. I understand this is fixed on Test, but if you're trying to lure back subscribers, drowning out their favorite toons with SFX-gone-wild ain't the way to do it.

Third, no 2x in AE. Now I get that this was normal - and that in the past, getting double exp. in AE was the mistake -- but now that some time has passed since the dev's "fixed" AE, I fear (DOOOMMMMM!) that "ending farming" with lost experience and super-sidekicking is backfiring on CoX. Places that used to be hopping are now deserted. (this didn't bother me before ... but did when I saw how empty the servers were on 2X weekend.)

On a good note, I'm glad they extended the weekend over until Monday so that people who normally don't get to take advantage of 2x experience can.
Actually the normal was that the MA had double xp. There had only been one event since the MA was added and in that event they allowed double xp in the MA. They claim that this time it was a bug, i dont believe that, but that is what the post said.

Losing the MA for double exp doenst mean farming is doomed. People farmed before the MA they farmed after the MA. The really ****** thing IMO is them not just coming out and saying that the MA will not provide double XP. They tell us about these events before hand so that people can be prepared for them. And i think many like me, were planning on, and created character on accounts with the expectation of partnering them with certian other accounts that had viable missions to play in the MA.
By far this was the most disappointing Double XP weekend ever. And its only because the MA was "bugged" with no xp. I had my plans laid out only to log on and find out that what i had plannned for would not work.

If it was a bug they had no time to fix, i want my double xp MA only weekend then.


 

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I have been away for about nine months, and this 2xp weekend really seemed like a regular weekend on Freedom about a year ago. When it is (relatively) tough to get a sewer team together on 2xp weekend due to inactivity in AP, then the game has changed dramatically over time. Sure, PI had 3 instances, but that used to be the case on a fairly regular basis. It just seems like there is no new blood in the game, and without that new blood/interest this game will simply wither and die. I know I got bored and quit playing after about 45 minutes. I don't know what they did to the whole sidekick mechanics, but I really don't like it now. It was sad for me because I used to really like to play this game (far too much).

Have fun doing the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over again.

Fat E


 

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It just seems like there is no new blood in the game
The new players I keep meeting must all be liars then


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I have been away for about nine months, and this 2xp weekend really seemed like a regular weekend on Freedom about a year ago. When it is (relatively) tough to get a sewer team together on 2xp weekend due to inactivity in AP, then the game has changed dramatically over time. Sure, PI had 3 instances, but that used to be the case on a fairly regular basis. It just seems like there is no new blood in the game, and without that new blood/interest this game will simply wither and die. I know I got bored and quit playing after about 45 minutes. I don't know what they did to the whole sidekick mechanics, but I really don't like it now. It was sad for me because I used to really like to play this game (far too much).

Have fun doing the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over again.

Fat E

Sadly, I don't think you're alone. I wish the game evolved a bit more but it didn't. The repetition and grind wears you out after a while. GR is our only hope...


 

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People have left the game and may/may not return.
People have been leaving the game FOR YEARS.
Some come back.
Some don't.
New blood is ALSO coming in and taking up the slack.

Simply stating "people are leaving the game" with no qualifiers is just unsupported *DOOOOOOOM*. If you can SHOW that significantly more people are leaving the game than coming in, then you have something to worry about. But, you cannot show that. Your observations of server population are somewhat meaningless. Why? Because you're not everywhere on the server and you don't have access to some mysterious panopticon giving you hard numbers on who's actually on the server and who's hidden.

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Nobody can say.
The devs can. They have access to the aforementioned hard numbers.
They say that subs are up.

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I think people should face facts
Yes they should. They need to stop *DOOOOOOOM*ing and just play the fricking game. It's easier to get on teams that way. Standing around whining "thus sucks", "there's nobody on", "there's no teams", "nobody will team with me" accomplishes exactly JACK *BLEEP* SQUAT.

Wait. That's not QUITE true. It makes people go out of their way to AVOID YOU.

In short, lighten up a bit brother...

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the game's player base is declining.
Currently? Sure. It does the same thing this time every year.
Unfortunately, you can't say whether this is part of a past trend (that'll rectify itself), or a new trend (that won't).

Why?

Because you don't know.

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It is unfortunate. This game can compete with a lot of MMOs including the new ones but too many weak updates. This game has stagnated but I hope GR changes that.
Weak updates.

*Sigh*

See CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM.

Simply flaming what's come before as "weak" helps NOTHING.

If you're going to ragequit, please do so SILENTLY. The attention-******* is just ever so slightly nauseating.



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Kind of sucks when the feature that makes the game fresh and new all the time didn't work for double experience.
It's a bug. Hit shappens.
Get out and play some of the rest of the content. Have a couple wild taskforce runs.
Work on one of the new MO badges.
Level a new toon.
Hunt purples.
PVP *SNERK* (Sorry! Nevermind!)

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If they really cared and didn't just disable double exp in the MA< they'd have a MA D-E only weekend.
No. Again, it was a bug. Something that would have taken a lot of time and effort to patch. Possibly not even emerging from testing until after the event is over. Or, if it comes out earlier, taking all the servers down during a big event.

Godvard: Even me think that dumb move!

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Far too convenient.
Whoops! Here's your tinfoil! Hat time!

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I didn't see anyone on.
Do more than just log in and stand in one place for hours on end.

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No one is ever in Cimerora ever.
Ever?

*Sigh*

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I log in every night, no way to even get those costume pieces on one character, and I have 7 I want it on. Oh well.
Hint: You may not get in on every ITF run. Hate to break it to you.


Again, I saw a TON of people on this weekend. Freedom and Virtue were bustling. Heck, PROTECTOR was bustling. That's the busiest I've seen it in months! Normally I get two or three invites a day on Protector. I was just flooded this weekend (though a couple times I had to solo due to being at work).

And if that's what you're expecting for the norm for teaming (especially post-SSK), you're pretty much boned.



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Then who was I doing the ITF with last night?
You weren't. You were hallucinating during a Katie.



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The really ****** thing IMO is them not just coming out and saying that the MA will not provide double XP.
Since it was...y'know...A BUG, why would they? More importantly, HOW would they? Precognitive popups?

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So sorry!  But a bug we don't actually know about yet is going to screw with the double XP code for the 
event and MA is going to fail to award double XP.  

We won't actually discover it until a couple hours after the event launches, by which time we wouldn't
want to bring down the servers, even if we COULD write up a fix in that time.

So!  We apologize for this bug we don't know about yet.  But at least now you can make your plans 
accordingly!

Positron: October 1st 2009 : 16:45:00 GMT
P.S. It wasn't me that had the vision, it was that *AHEM* Castle!  Blame him!
Is that about what you're thinking of?

PUT THE DOOBIE DOWN!

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I had my plans laid out only to log on and find out that what i had plannned for would not work.
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If it was a bug they had no time to fix, i want my double xp MA only weekend then.
And I want a pony! Stamped with all the free costume codes! Let's hold our breaths until they're given to us!



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Hmmph, i logged in Thursday night, friday during the day, saturday night, and earlier this morning, and all servers were green, and I stood around looking for a team for at least 20-30 minutes a pop, and the servers seemed bone dry.

Just seemed odd, its too bad, this was one of my favorite games for a long time, its sad to see the lack of support to be so harsh.
I have been saying this and everyone says this game isnt dying...It isnt dying but it has slowed down a lot


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Seems like there's a lot of complaining over this dbl xp weekend. Wait, isn't there always? You can't keep everyone happy. My views on what i've seen posted here.

1. MA isn't giving dbl xp. For all you crying that this was done deliberate, why don't you stop and think for a minute. MA has gone through A LOT of updating recently. Maybe, just maybe, because of those updates, it changed something in there that made it hard to have the dbl xp going in it. The devs say it's a bug, I believe them. Why do I believe them, you ask? Because, they have CHANGED a lot of the issues that were taken advantage of during the last dbl xp weekend, so it's not like you were going to be able to take advantage of it this time anyway. So stop crying.

2. Servers: For those crying about the servers not going above green. Like some others have already said, the servers have been upgraded, so you won't see servers in the red anymore. Now I played quite a bit over this weekend, during all different hours of the day, and noticed on several occasions that both Freedom and Virtue were in the yellow. So don't know how you can say that none of the servers were ever in the yellow or hardly in the yellow.

3. This kind of goes along with the servers. Finding people to play with. The only time I had a real problem getting a team was Sunday morning. You know, when a lot of people go to church, etc. etc. I had no problems whatsoever getting teams at any other time during the weekend.

4. Problems with the game, ie: rubberbanding, lag, etc: Honestly, I didn't see any of these issues. My game ran perfectly the entire weekend, and none of my friends, or anyone else I teamed with complained of any problems. For those that did have problems, I might suggest you look to your own computer first as a possible solution, graphics cards up to date, etc. etc.

All in all, it was a completely enjoyable weekend for me. I teamed up with a lot of people,ran all kinds of different missions and tf's, leveled up a lot of my toons, and had a lot of fun. Thanks to the Devs for giving us the weekend, and especially extending it to monday.

Have a nice day all!


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Hmmmm....I had a little lag, but not enough to complain about it.

I hit that patch in Steel Canyon a couple times, the one where where my screen totally freezes and it looks like I have a picture on my toon flying flying through the air on my monitor instead of a 3D environment...not sure where it is exactly. I am always too busy cussin' and doing the ALT-TAB-DELETE thing which is the only way to get out, to take a coordinate reading, but I do know it is pretty close to the Yellow Line.

I solo, and have "No Teaming" on my Team locater message thingy, and I was still being asked to team all weekend on Victory so teams were indeed out there.

I too was sad about the MA being down, but hey, I took my new toons through the Hollows arcs, the Midnighter's Club missions, they did all the Faultline stuff, and also did the Skyway City safeguard which got them the Rez Temp Power.

When life gives you lemons, make lemonade!

FTW!

Lisa.

When I said checking Coordinates, I cannot do it the official way /loc as nothing works, but I could look about my screen and jot down notes as to my location...which I think of as coordinates, but, the only thing on my mind is restarting the game.


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Game's dying. I heard my neighbours daughters boyfriends secret lover had lag so the servers are clearly dying aswell.

Obviously...


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You weren't. You were hallucinating during a Katie.
I didn't do a Katie this weekend


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I had one odd problem all weekend -- if I had been on a mission, then ran into Wentworths and clicked on a representative, then my game would crash. After verifying and reloading, everything seemed to work fine.


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