Level 50 Snobs

More reasons I dislike exemplaring (beyond just 'I like getting new powers and dislike losing them,' which is a valid reason) and reasons that many builds are not exemplar-friendly:

Key powers. Some sets just rely so much on single powers that they're weak or dull without them or I just hate to play without them. My Dark/ Defender just feels kind of blah without Fearsome Stare and Dark Servant. My /Archery Defender practically became a new character after Rain of Arrows.

Some higher-level powers almost completely replace lower-level ones. I have characters who've respecced out of Stamina once they get Power Sink. This also applies to attack chains, where you can often build them with a few good high-level powers once you have high recharge. I think my katana/ scrapper has one ST attack and Flashing Steel before the 20s.

On the other hand, some characters change their slotting a lot once they have certain powers. I almost completely dropped endreduxes on my /elec brute once I had Power Sink. They're almost useless with that power, but if I exemped below it, I'd probably really miss them... especially since most of my brutes have at least 1 endredux in every attack at lower levels.

Set bonuses. If a perma-dom or softcapped <any AT here> doesn't have that advantage below a certain point, they're probably going to be rather reluctant to go below it.

Some sets just have lots of skippable stuff at the low levels to begin with, or the opposite, have so much almost required stuff at low level that they're just boring to play up to a certain point (pre-20 Stalkers, I'm looking at you). Either way, they're not anything I want to revisit at lower levels.

Why does "I don't like not having access to my high level powers" equate to snobbery? Half the time when I exemp down I severely miss things like pets, or even Epic powers.

That's not snobbery. That's just someone who enjoys the top end powers they've worked towards and don't particularly want to return to the time when they were missing. I'd never, ever exemp below level 36 on my Grav/TA, I'd lose too many fun powers.

I was just badge hunting the other night with my lvl 50 dark/dark defender when I got invited to a TF.

Made my night.

Even if I wasn't there at the end.

Sorry Tellor.

Bad, only because you used "Thus..."

Which means your post is automatically fail. Thems the brakes.

It did for me. I would have said "breaks" otherwise.

This thread is kind of weird. It's of the assumption that level 50s don't want to exemp now, but did before. My view of exemping hasn't changed. I also haven't ever gotten someone to ask my level 50 to exemp to 20 for no apparent reason. Neither before nor after i16. Rest assured, if someone asked me to exemp my Widow from 50 to 20 for no reason, I would say no. But I would have said no before i16 too.

I'm not against exemping as a rule. But there's a limit where I'll drop to. It's generally around 32. My main issue with exemping is that enhancements decay to an annoying degree. Past a point I actually end up with LESS accuracy and LESS defense than I ACTUALLY HAD at that level. Meaning as a level 50 character, I'm actually weaker at level 20 than when I ACTUALLY WAS level 20.

There are also a lot of powers and attributes for my characters that I lose when exemping which I'm not that fond of. My Widow loses a lot of +DMG and some recharge bonuses right off the bat if dropping lower than 47. If she drops lower than 32, she no longer has perma Mind Link. I also lose powers I really like, and my build has no AoEs below 30 because I did a lot of soloing up through that point.

I'm fine to exemp if there's a reason for it. If I'm doing a task force for instance. Though I'd rather switch characters and pick up a more appropriate class if necessary. But it's not that cool if I play and enjoy my character the way she's built, and someone thinks I'm a snob if I don't want to play her the way THEY think I should.

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Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.

It depends on the toon, but I've exempted all the way down to lvl2 many times (sewer runs). I prob. wouldn't do it on my Ill/storm though, since that toon was hell before lvl20. However on blaster and emp, the lower lvl powers are actually quite useful and fun.

It's funny though, sometimes when I'll join lowbie groups on my 50, people are sometimes reluctant to exemp me. I have to ask them several times. In those cases, I guess it's a case of reverse snobbery?

It isn't just losing powers: at level 50, you have all kinds of set bonuses you can accumulate, but often you have the choice of "build for effective play at 50" or "build for effective play exemplared" and the choices are mutually exclusive. Level 50 set IO's all have better enhancement values than lower-level ones, but they aren't exemplar-friendly. To build for exemplaring, you need lower-level sets, which means you aren't going to be as good at 50 as you could be.

Building to exemplar involves a trade off, and it seems you've had a run of bad luck in running into 50s who were unwilling to make that trade off. Dual Builds COULD help the situation, but from what I can see, not many people are willing to spend the time and effort to start a new build from scratch just to exemplar.

2 things could happen to make exemplaring a lot more attractive: lose the level restriction on set bonuses, or allow us to use enhancements in BOTH of our dual builds. I dont' see either happening soon.