Many reasons against it, including limiting the damage that someone can do if you wander away with your character logged in.
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
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How about the ability to lock your account to go with it then (without actually logging out unless your computer loses connection). This would take you back to the login screen without technically logging you out of the game (with a message saying that the user is still logged in & that logging in under another account will log that user out). 
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Originally Posted by WonderGamer
How about the ability to lock your account to go with it then (without actually logging out unless your computer loses connection). This would take you back to the login screen without technically logging you out of the game (with a message saying that the user is still logged in & that logging in under another account will log that user out).
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If so, how does that save any time from the current method?
I have lots of alts. Logging them into the game for Anniversary badges, for example, takes a bunch of time. But even so, this is something that I would put SO LOW on my list of things for the Devs to work on that it doesn't even appear on the list, sorry.
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I'm impressed. You've personally brought new features to two other games?
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Originally Posted by WonderGamer
Even Guild Wars didn't have this feature before I suggested it, but now it does (added shortly after I suggested it).
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The point of the secondary suggestion is to provide protection if the first one gets implemented (it technically could be used as it's own suggestions as well). People playing from their homes most likely won't have this problem & won't have to lock their game anyways. I understand the issue of LAN Centers however as I used to work at one. A lot of brats liked to jump on other peoples accounts while they were taking a bathroom break. I would personally just lock my computer in this case (Windows key+L), but this is not an option when it comes to using LAN Center computers as many use timing software that will lock you out of normal Windows functions.|
Originally Posted by Ad Astra
But wouldn't you have to enter another password to "unlock"?
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One suggestion I made for this game was the ability to save/export game options. Didn't expect that one to get supported, but it got supported maybe half a year later.
still wont happen in any way, shape or form. what happens if you walk away from your comp in either of your suggestions? you are still logged in so all someone has to do is hit log in or since you would be at the character selection screen, then go delete happy or load a toon and go off shouting obsenities in broadcast or whatever chat you had your tab set to. this type of behavior will not looked good upon by the dev's or gm's as it would look like you gave out your info for your game account, which is against the EULA, which could get your account banned or terminated.
and i highly doubt that you were the only one that brought about the change you describe for Guild Wars. nice try though.
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While I completely agree the that having to relog each time I want to change characters is vaguely annoying I completely understand and agree with the security concerns that feature exists to address.|
Originally Posted by WonderGamer
It would save a lot of time if you could logout to either the server/character screen, without having to re-enter your password. I'm a little suprised that City of Heroes/Villains is the only MMORPG that doesn't have this feature yet. Even Guild Wars didn't have this feature before I suggested it, but now it does (added shortly after I suggested it).
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I don't play in an environment where the chance somebody could gain access to my characters against my wishes is very likely. But from a pure computer security point of view I'd rather live with a very minor annoyance like this (I can typically relog characters in less than a minute) than to hear about people constantly crying in the forums about how their various "little brothers" nuked their characters every other day.
It's a reasonable account security feature which has been in place in this game for years. At this point the chances anything will change with this here is effectively nil. Frankly the fact that a game like Guild Wars apparently (according to you) weakened their security in this area is not a -good- thing as far as I'm concerned. *shrugs*
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I am all for this.
The whole "security issue" is rubbish.
What happens if you walk away from anything?
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I am all for this.
The whole "security issue" is rubbish. What happens if you walk away from anything? |
You potentially lose stuff. Except here, where unless somebody else has a password, that's not a problem. Mostly, because the current system works.
Got any real reason for wanting this, other than the maybe 5-second inconvenience that you get having to put your password in again?
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current thinking: by making you log out/in every time you want to switch, you keep people from deleting all of your (easily deletable) characters.
better (imo) thinking: by making you type in your password every time you want to delete a character, you keep (nearly) everyone from deleting them. Also, this allows you to more quickly switch characters.
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on the side, i wouldnt mind it if they allowed you to open the server/character list while still logged into one of your characters...then just click on another character and switch.
Security measure.
If someone knows your password and wants to delete all of your characters, at least make 'em wait awhile! 
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And it's the players that play at home who are most likely to be careless with their account security and allow things like this to happen.|
Originally Posted by Lothic
While I completely agree the that having to relog each time I want to change characters is vaguely annoying I completely understand and agree with the security concerns that feature exists to address.
I don't play in an environment where the chance somebody could gain access to my characters against my wishes is very likely. But from a pure computer security point of view I'd rather live with a very minor annoyance like this (I can typically relog characters in less than a minute) than to hear about people constantly crying in the forums about how their various "little brothers" nuked their characters every other day. |
Something happens in RL and the player steps away to take care of it because they'll "be right back" and in that moment of carelessness Jr, brother or sis, angry BF/GF is on the account messing things up or even getting the account banned.
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This is why I say no as well.
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
And it's the players that play at home who are most likely to be careless with their account security and allow things like this to happen.
Something happens in RL and the player steps away to take care of it because they'll "be right back" and in that moment of carelessness Jr, brother or sis, angry BF/GF is on the account messing things up or even getting the account banned. /unsigned |
It takes all of what 10-15 extra seconds to type in your password and hit the login button?
The time/annoyance savings are miniscule compared to the potential security/complaints issues it opens up.
Nope. This is a good feature.
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Originally Posted by Soulwind
It takes all of what 10-15 extra seconds to type in your password and hit the login button?
The time/annoyance savings are miniscule compared to the potential security/complaints issues it opens up. Nope. This is a good feature. |
I'm all in favor of logging out to the character select screen. If security is such an issue, then require the password to delete the character...
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so, the miniscule time it takes to get from log in screen to character select screen is a problem for you? because the only long load time is actually loading the game to the log in screen. after that it takes a very small amount of time to get playing again. if you are having problems with load times then maybe it is time to do a clean up and defrag of your system.
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Originally Posted by Sharker_Quint
so, the miniscule time it takes to get from log in screen to character select screen is a problem for you?
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But I say, let's please give players the choice. Make it an option that defaults to the current system. But on the options screen, you'd be able flip this to "allow me to change characters without logging in". You'd also have to type your account password in to change this option.
That way, players like me that don't have angry spouses or irresponsible children/friends would be able to have the convenience of more fluidly switching alts, and other people who are surrounded by drunken raging maniacs would have their security.
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EDIT: Not worth it...
There are easy ways to still retain the security if this feature was implemented.
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Originally Posted by Reddi35
EDIT: Not worth it...
There are easy ways to still retain the security if this feature was implemented. |
let me guess what your saying is well you would still have to put in a password so what is the difference of what is in place now? and what about the people with toons on more then 1 server? still have to go to log in screen to do that. ever heard the saying "if it isn't broke dont try to fix it"?
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EDIT: Not worth it...
There are easy ways to still retain the security if this feature was implemented. |
And are those ways already programmed into the game?
If not, then my answer would still be that there are many, many other things that are higher priority than alleviating this minor 15-20 second annoyance.
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"if it isn't broke don't fix it"|
Originally Posted by Sharker_Quint
well since i didn't quote what you first said i'll respond to this...
let me guess what your saying is well you would still have to put in a password so what is the difference of what is in place now? and what about the people with toons on more then 1 server? still have to go to log in screen to do that. ever heard the saying "if it isn't broke dont try to fix it"? |
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They give us the option to do a lot of things with gameplay. What would be wrong with giving us the option to log out to a different character? Everyone's happy.
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Originally Posted by Ad Astra
And are those ways already programmed into the game?
If not, then my answer would still be that there are many, many other things that are higher priority than alleviating this minor 15-20 second annoyance. |
But we are given a lot of small QoL features in this game, if it wouldn't take a notable chunk of a programmers time then why not?
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That's your fault, then. I don't see how it's NCSoft's job to make sure your account is secure when you step away from it.
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Originally Posted by Kitsune Knight
Many reasons against it, including limiting the damage that someone can do if you wander away with your character logged in.
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I actually like this idea. Good thinking! |
Originally Posted by BlueBeetle_27
better (imo) thinking: by making you type in your password every time you want to delete a character, you keep (nearly) everyone from deleting them. Also, this allows you to more quickly switch characters.
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And I played Silkroad for a time. They made it so that you had to wait a period of time after hitting the delete key before the character would actually be deleted. You could change your mind & cancel the deletion within that time & the deletion of the character would not be processed.
I decided to recreate this thread & the other suggestions didn't have tags.
With the current system, if you want to switch characters, you have to:
- Log out of your account.
- Log back into your account.
- Choose the server you want to log into to.
- Select the character that you want to play.
The problem is the steps in red. It would save a lot of time if you could logout to either the server/character screen, without having to re-enter your password. I'm a little suprised that City of Heroes/Villains is the only MMORPG that doesn't have this feature yet. Even Guild Wars didn't have this feature before I suggested it, but now it does (added shortly after I suggested it).