Why can't we send ourselves money yet???
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Adam_Alpha,
Posted on: 2009-08-20 24:31 in Suggestions and Ideas
What they should do with GR, IMHO:
Rename Influence / Infamy into Credibility.
Merge the Black Market with Wentsworth.
Introduce a Vault Cred Account which is accessable for every character on an account and stores Credibility. Every time someone is taking Cred's from the account, the bank takes a 5% fee for handling, so it will act as Cred leak to the game. It would be a win - win situation. We get what we want, the Devs create a new currency leak.
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Not bad. We definitely need the inf leak. Even more than what this would do but any little bit helps.|
Originally Posted by Aphrael_EU
What they should do with GR, IMHO:
Rename Influence / Infamy into Credibility. Merge the Black Market with Wentsworth. Introduce a Vault Cred Account which is accessable for every character on an account and stores Credibility. Every time someone is taking Cred's from the account, the bank takes a 5% fee for handling, so it will act as Cred leak to the game. It would be a win - win situation. We get what we want, the Devs create a new currency leak. Edit: Typos |
Haven't given it a ton of thought, but at a glance I say I like it.
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Same here. My level 50 Blaster is a "Master of the Mystic Arts" type so to speak, and she works with my level 50 Controller, who is her eyes and ears to whats going on in Paragon City, while she prepares to combat Mystic threats.
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Originally Posted by CoyoteShaman
Bill, I just had to chime in here and say that I notice you have been on the forums since Feb of '05. If we assume that means Feb 1 of '05 and we count through all of today, that means you've been able to post for 1668 days. You have 26,442 posts. If we assume you've posted every single day since you registered with the forum (which I highly doubt), that means you've averaged 15.85 posts per day. Even if we assume an average post is 20 words (which is pretty small but smooths things out for posts like "/signed" and such) and an average word is 5 characters (which is the standard for typing tests) that's 1585 words per day. According to a question asked in the New York Times, the average newspaper article length, at least for that institution, is 1200 words.
I'm going to hazard a guess and say that a regular, amateur columnist would earn an average fee for each article of about $10 (much more for a few, much less or nothing for most). That means you've written almost 530,000 words and done over $16,680 worth of work for the city of heroes forums over the last 4 years or so. And you likely haven't been paid or even offered a dime. I think too much. Robin |
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Originally Posted by CoyoteShaman
Bill, I just had to chime in here and say that I notice you have been on the forums since Feb of '05. If we assume that means Feb 1 of '05 and we count through all of today, that means you've been able to post for 1668 days. You have 26,442 posts. If we assume you've posted every single day since you registered with the forum (which I highly doubt), that means you've averaged 15.85 posts per day. Even if we assume an average post is 20 words (which is pretty small but smooths things out for posts like "/signed" and such) and an average word is 5 characters (which is the standard for typing tests) that's 1585 words per day. According to a question asked in the New York Times, the average newspaper article length, at least for that institution, is 1200 words.
I'm going to hazard a guess and say that a regular, amateur columnist would earn an average fee for each article of about $10 (much more for a few, much less or nothing for most). That means you've written almost 530,000 words and done over $16,680 worth of work for the city of heroes forums over the last 4 years or so. And you likely haven't been paid or even offered a dime. I think too much. Robin |
That's a lot of posts...
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Originally Posted by Support
I can only think of one reason why not right now that has not bemm mentioned.
E-mail Spam. Do you know how many E-mail I get after one day of not logging in. Whenever I log in, I just press delete 20-50 times just to clean out the E-mail box from RMT (Real Money Traders). I can imagine the following scenario : 1) Log into character and and see lots of SPAM on Inbox. 2) Not bother reading, I delete all the E-mail. 1 of them was an influence transfer. If one was an influence E-mail, I would have lost millions of influence by not reading the E-mail. Then we would gripe more for losing influence whether it came from myself or even a friend. Even if there is a feature many of us would like to have, there would always be flaws. |
Except we could have a button that was "Get All Influence" and you'd press that first and THEN delete all messages. Problem solved.
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Of course in i16 that won't be an issue.
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Originally Posted by Support
I can only think of one reason why not right now that has not bemm mentioned.
E-mail Spam. |
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That works fine for inf but what happens to enhancements, inspirations, and salvage? It's much easier to go over the character limit on those items.|
Originally Posted by Wavicle
Except we could have a button that was "Get All Influence" and you'd press that first and THEN delete all messages. Problem solved.
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Remember in the suggested scenario the person doesn't bother to check his emails before deleting them. It's not hard to believe the person in question won't bother to check if he has room to store anything else, so what happens to those items?
He emails a complete set of LoTG to a character but forgets that it is currently carrying 8 enhancements. So he hits "Get All" then cleans out his email list, and discovers afterwards he only had room for 2 enhancements from the set.
There's got to be a better way to do this than emails.
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"Delete all Emails not containing items or inf."
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
That works fine for inf but what happens to enhancements, inspirations, and salvage? It's much easier to go over the character limit on those items.
Remember in the suggested scenario the person doesn't bother to check his emails before deleting them. It's not hard to believe the person in question won't bother to check if he has room to store anything else, so what happens to those items? He emails a complete set of LoTG to a character but forgets that it is currently carrying 8 enhancements. So he hits "Get All" then cleans out his email list, and discovers afterwards he only had room for 2 enhancements from the set. There's got to be a better way to do this than emails. |
Wavicle, Energy/Energy Blaster, dinged 50 in Issue 4, summer of 2005.
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And then you'd see your mailbox filled with spam emails each with 1 inf, or a cheap salvage/ lvl 1 enh/cheap inspiration and you'll be back to weeding thru them to find the one you sent. Spammers can easily afford to throw away loot since they farm it hand over fist.|
Originally Posted by Wavicle
"Delete all Emails not containing items or inf."
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Again there has got to be a better way of doing it than using emails.
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
And then you'd see your mailbox filled with spam emails each with 1 inf, or a cheap salvage/ lvl 1 enh/cheap inspiration and you'll be back to weeding thru them to find the one you sent. Spammers can easily afford to throw away loot since they farm it hand over fist.
Again there has got to be a better way of doing it than using emails. |
One of the reasons why I would place this feature on the bottom of the list of what the devs should do.
Sending Influence or items via email isn't a good idea, but I would definitely like to see a Bank Of Paragon City. It's not always convenient (especially if you like to play at 2:00am) to find a friend to help you transfer influence, and if you want to transfer influence between servers it's impossible. Your only option is to use Wentworth's; have Mr Poor find a cheap item nobody is offering, buy one & put it up for sale, log off, log on Mr Rich, move Mr Rich from wherever he's hanging out to the nearest Wentworth's, have him buy the item for the amount of influence you want to transfer, log off, trot back to Mr Poor's server, log in, have Mr Poor collect the influence ... only to find that Wentworth's appropriated about 10% of your influence for the "convenience".
This. Blows. Chunks.
Come on, Devs. You're giving us the ability to change our power colors in I-16. YAY. We can change a toon from a tiny bookworm of a guy to a giant insect at the click of a button. WHOOT. You created Wentworth's, which is a pretty good thing even though some people love to buy low and sell so freaking high you can't even think about getting a decent set of purples for your 50s unless you have at least a billion Influence on hand. Um ... yay. Certainly you can create a bank system that will allow us to deposit Influence (and perhaps even earn interest just like a real bank?) and allow one of our alts to collect that influence from any server, either hero or villain side, and not have to lose 10% in the process. This should be a walk in the park, and it would actually be USEFUL for a change. Certainly more useful than pink ice or blue fire. What is the harm?
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Worthless answer.... we need an in game mail system and we need 3 years ago!
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Originally Posted by stever
Number one reason: Because the devs still never intend to let us do this.
There is slanted wording in your question PP, . . . like Dang it! Why can't we just hit a button that levels us from 1 to 50 yet? Or . . . Have you quit abusing your husband yet? (just yes or no answer)
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Your confusing need with want.|
Originally Posted by Gr33n
Worthless answer.... we need an in game mail system and we need 3 years ago!
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This is a minor Qol that would make shifting things around easier for some people. The game is not unplayable without it.
Way I see it..
People are gonna do it regaurdless.
People have their own "in game realities" for their characters. It's honestly a pretty major stretch to assume that my two chars don't know eachother, at least in passing, when they both frequent the same areas.
The QoL change wouldn't really change anything, other than it'd stop people from ******** about it.
As such, I see no "real" reason for them not to do it.
(by the way, want to send some of that obscene wealth my way? 
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Funny... the game isn't unplayable without power customization... and yet there's a Issue being prepared for it.
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Your confusing need with want.
This is a minor Qol that would make shifting things around easier for some people. The game is not unplayable without it. |
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it's stupid we can't mail cash to ourselves. Slap a 10% (or whatever) convenience fee on it and make it happen.
As easy as it is to make inf in this game I rarely have occasion to need a transfer- but I do have several FILTHY RICH characters who are basically retired, and I'd divest their bankroll to various characters I do still play if I could do it without organizing a cross-server transfer with one of the players who does that sort of thing.
I shipped a few hundred million from my fire/rad to the Goat with the help of Fulmens a while back- it isn't like they're preventing us from doing anything, they're just making it tedious.
The game has a market now, influence is just $$$$, so upgrade the email system to reflect reality.
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I would consider it more than a minor QoL
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Your confusing need with want.
This is a minor Qol that would make shifting things around easier for some people. The game is not unplayable without it. |
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You're right, and if you've read my responses here, I've never said that I thought a global bank was a bad idea. I also have said that it would be nice if the devs changed their minds, and that they may have changes plannd for "Going Rogue". If we are allowed to take our wealth with us when we cross over they might as well allow a global bank.|
Originally Posted by Blue Rabbit
Funny... the game isn't unplayable without power customization... and yet there's a Issue being prepared for it.
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I have pointed out what I think are flaws to using the email system as a method of sending things to your own characters. I would prefer something more secure and idiot proof, because we see far too many idiots in the game.
We do have one feature that could be expanded into a decent global bank but we'd have to take into account what the devs probably won't let us put everything we have into it.
So what might the devs consider reasonable? Probably not more than what an unmodified character can carry. I'm guessing the best we could hope for would be
2 billion inf
50 salvage
10 enhancements
20 inspirations
20 recipes (Tho I must admit the pessimist in me thinks it'll be a cold day in hell before they let us move recipes around easily.)
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Would you prefer it if I said the devs don't have it very high on their list of priorities?|
Originally Posted by MunkiLord
I would consider it more than a minor QoL
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However we describe it the devs have either been dead set against it or they've had things they consider far more important to work on.
And again I think Going Rogue would be the perfect time for them to have something like this ready. I think the economy is going to go thru some big changes and this feature added to merging the red and blue markets will help keep things stable.
Positron's statement that their isn't enough inf available redside to competitively compete with blueside goes out the window if players can easily shift funds from blueside to redside via a global bank.
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I don't have a problem with the way you said it before. I was just simply stating my view on it. For me, it would be a big deal. For you it very well may be a minor QoL.
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Would you prefer it if I said the devs don't have it very high on their list of priorities?
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OP- Why can't we send ourselves money?
IMO, Because the devs love us so dang much they WANT to keep us online as much as possible; and this would speed things up for us too dang much.
Give them (lol- more) time, with GR coming out, I wouldn't be surprised to see "something" along those lines in the following issues.
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An unmodified L1 character can't carry that much. |
Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
So what might the devs consider reasonable? Probably not more than what an unmodified character can carry. I'm guessing the best we could hope for would be
2 billion inf 50 salvage 10 enhancements 20 inspirations 20 recipes (Tho I must admit the pessimist in me thinks it'll be a cold day in hell before they let us move recipes around easily.) |
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False on the "need" part.|
Originally Posted by Gr33n
we need an in game mail system and we need 3 years ago!
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If it was needed, then we wouldn't have thrived without it.
Any character in this game can be financially self-sufficient.
There are already plenty of ways to transfer wealth between characters.
1) Drop valuable items into SG bins, .
2) Use the Market.
3) Use a second account.
4) Use another player. (Cross-faction or cross-server trades are possible this way.)
While not needed, I see this as a QoL thing for people unwilling to use the existing methods, and yes, I would possibly use it if it where implemented.
I'm going to hazard a guess and say that a regular, amateur columnist would earn an average fee for each article of about $10 (much more for a few, much less or nothing for most). That means you've written almost 530,000 words and done over $16,680 worth of work for the city of heroes forums over the last 4 years or so. And you likely haven't been paid or even offered a dime.
I think too much.
Robin
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Someone should open a thread called: "Pay your dang BillZ"
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