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MA is content.
A gigantic, foaming ocean of content, somewhat intimidating in its breadth and depth.

No, the devs didn't personally create the missions, but they did create the tools and turn players loose on them. Ignoring that reality is to use a worthlessly restricted definition of "content".
I said official content, one that shows the backstory of the game and help takes it further. So far the last few mini arcs that the devs created are my favourite ones ingame, magic man arc had me in tears it was so good [which is why i want more of the same].

However, even though i love MA to bits there is simply far too much improvement needed on it to be truely classified as proper content. If i like an arc i have to write down the arc ID, otherwise i have a VERY low chance of finding it again. Whereas with official content, its always at the same person/same place thus letting you enjoy the content you want.

Us long time players want a new form of cake to eat, not the same old cake with a different toppin on


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That synopsis isn't to take away from the difficulty and hard work in implementing things like the MA, costume change emotes, PvP revamp, Merits, and other systems and QoL improvements, but an MMO needs story to maintain interest, and people are thirsting for more conical content.
Conical content? Bah; I won't be satisfied unless the content is octahedral!


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(snip) If i like an arc i have to write down the arc ID, otherwise i have a VERY low chance of finding it again. Whereas with official content, its always at the same person/same place thus letting you enjoy the content you want. (snip)

You know you can send an ingame email to your self with ark ID's in it Ctrl + C and Ctrl + V work ingame.


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However, even though i love MA to bits there is simply far too much improvement needed on it to be truely classified as proper content.
Your definitions remain uselessly narrow.

If you insist that content that "needs improvement" doesn't count, there goes roughly 1/2 the game. I've been playing some of the older stuff lately, and it stinks on hot ice.

And you're ignoring the fact that MA is for the devs as well.
It should greatly magnify their ability to produce what you see as the only "real" content.

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I've gotten more If i like an arc i have to write down the arc ID, otherwise i have a VERY low chance of finding it again. Whereas with official content, its always at the same person/same place thus letting you enjoy the content you want.
Repetition of content is what MA is designed to alleviate.
Although I agree the interface stinks and has tremendous room for improvement.

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And yet earlier in the post you sing the praises of how the predictability of 'official' content is something laud and celebrate.

I'm not here to convince anybody what they like- enjoy the game however you want. But the devs have introduced a whole truckload of content in the last year or so, whether you think it qualifies or not.


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Issue 15 was always intended to be a relatively 'light' issue. It was mainly there to mark the 5th year anniversary and to finally get us into a new codebranch (I13 and I14 were developed in the same branch). That said, we did put a lot of time and work into I15.

I'm not sure why the expectations were so high for it, or what we could have done differently. From my perspective, we were pretty clear that it wasn't going to be as big as I14 or the GR expansion. It did take a bit longer to birth than anticipated, but ultimately that just pushed it closer to I16 rather than coming right on the heels of I14.
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People worry about CO, i never did. But yesterday i got a survey in the Aion beta, i know THAT game is worrying. Several i know from EU and US side will be moving to Aion, so am i. NCkorea feared canibalism fromout their own games, LA1/2 remained steady. Western side, with only GW (and delayed GW2) and CoH left, it will hit imho harder.
Aion installs a rootkit on your computer. Anybody that installs this game deserves any potential harm that comes from this rootkit. I hope this game bombs because of this and I hope people lose their jobs. People in game companies that decide rootkits are needed do not deserve to make games and I hope their careers crash.

Also, if you(general) install this game and somebody exploits this rootkit, you deserve all the bad things that could happen to your computer and your personal data. You(again, general), make me sick.


 

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Aion installs a rootkit on your computer. Anybody that installs this game deserves any potential harm that comes from this rootkit. I hope this game bombs because of this and I hope people lose their jobs. People in game companies that decide rootkits are needed do not deserve to make games and I hope their careers crash.

Also, if you(general) install this game and somebody exploits this rootkit, you deserve all the bad things that could happen to your computer and your personal data. You(again, general), make me sick.
Aion installs a Rootkit?

I'll let my friends know about this.


 

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Aion installs a Rootkit?

I'll let my friends know about this.
Hell yeah it does. Google it for better info than I'm willing to provide.


 

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Aion installs a Rootkit?

I'll let my friends know about this.
It installs Game Guardian which is an anti-cheating software package that's pretty intrusive and has rootkit-like behaviors (hiding it's processes, hidden device drivers, scanning memory, etc). It CAN interfere with some other applications as well (but mainly while the game is running). It doesn't do anything without the game running. Aside from that, it's actually not very risky and is patched for vulnerabilities frequently, but it IS intrusive which alot of people (myself included) object to on basic principle (remember Sony?).

It's a common practice to utilize this software in Asian markets, due to the preponderance of gold farming. The retail US client may or may not include this software (unknown at this point) but the beta client certainly does.

Personally, I'd boycott it until they remove that "feature", if I were planning to buy it. Which I'm not anyways... but if I were teetering, this'd settle it for me.


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This is over the top mental slavery.

 

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What's a rootkit? It sounds like something you'd use in the garden
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rootkit


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This is over the top mental slavery.

 

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So why does Aion need one of those?
It's using this, in specific:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NProtect_GameGuard


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This is over the top mental slavery.

 

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It's using this, in specific:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NProtect_GameGuard[/quote]

That doesn't sound too bad if it's to stop cheats and exploits.
Well, it's not... as long as you don't mind that a third party company is installing software that bypasses your OS's security and safeguards that COULD possibly be used to spy on you or even take control of your computer remotely AND you feel comfortable with trusting that company both not to do that AND to keep their code up to date so that they don't inadvertently allow someone ELSE to do it, too. AND you're ok with the fact that, short of a complete OS reinstall, you'll never ever be rid of that software in your system.

It's probably safe. Probably. But some of us just don't trust random companies out there enough to let them effectively seize control of our OS. Especially when they do it behind our backs.


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This is over the top mental slavery.

 

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Aion installs a rootkit on your computer. Anybody that installs this game deserves any potential harm that comes from this rootkit. I hope this game bombs because of this and I hope people lose their jobs. People in game companies that decide rootkits are needed do not deserve to make games and I hope their careers crash.

Also, if you(general) install this game and somebody exploits this rootkit, you deserve all the bad things that could happen to your computer and your personal data. You(again, general), make me sick.
Aaaaaah the cute Rootkit story again. Serious, try harder.

You think that gameguard is scary? Use a packet monitor and see exactly what it sends out, then compare this to VAC (made in US), WoW, Google, youtube, MSN, or the recent news of iphone apps. Or shall we go punkbuster (again, made in US) or even the anti-copy crap of music and video CDs (several made in US)?

Because it behaves like one, doesnt mean it is. There is no case, with clear evidence, that gameguard was used for any other case other then protecting the game. Please, keep that hypocrit talk to yourself.


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It's using this, in specific:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NProtect_GameGuard[/quote]

That doesn't sound too bad if it's to stop cheats and exploits.
It's a set of processes that removes control of your computer from you, executes functions without your consent, hides from the system, your antivirus, etc, and is essentially unable to be properly cleaned off the computer (even if you uninstall the game) barring a system restore or reformat?

Oh, and if exploited, results in more, truly malicious functions being hidden from the system.

Not even if it was the best freaking game in the universe EVER.



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Aaaaaah the cute Rootkit story again. Serious, try harder.

You think that gameguard is scary? Use a packet monitor and see exactly what it sends out, then compare this to VAC (made in US), WoW, Google, youtube, MSN, or the recent news of iphone apps. Or shall we go punkbuster (again, made in US) or even the anti-copy crap of music and video CDs (several made in US)?

Because it behaves like one, doesnt mean it is. There is no case, with clear evidence, that gameguard was used for any other case other then protecting the game. Please, keep that hypocrit talk to yourself.
Please explain how I'm a hypocrite, especially since I don't have any of those Apps installed on my computer(to the best of my knowledge, and assuming I was able to get everything from Google apps off my hard drive). Or are you happy just making stuff up? If you're gonna be a liar, try to be a good one.


 

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Somehow this thread went from zero to fail real fast. I'll leave the tin foil hats and mylar long johns here for your disposal.


 

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Aaaaaah the cute Rootkit story again. Serious, try harder.

You think that gameguard is scary? Use a packet monitor and see exactly what it sends out, then compare this to VAC (made in US), WoW, Google, youtube, MSN, or the recent news of iphone apps. Or shall we go punkbuster (again, made in US) or even the anti-copy crap of music and video CDs (several made in US)?

Because it behaves like one, doesnt mean it is. There is no case, with clear evidence, that gameguard was used for any other case other then protecting the game. Please, keep that hypocrit talk to yourself.
I don't think you quite grasp the precise issues people have with an application like gameguard. Hint: it has very little to do with the kinds of packets it's sending out. You don't seem to comprehend exactly why we'd find a rootkit (and gameguard IS a rootkit for all intents and purposes) more threatening than, say, youtube. I regularly run wireshark on my network and do quite a bit of packet analysis. That is, however, neither here nor there, as the question is not the fully informed privacy policy of an online service, but the not-fully-informed hijacking of your OS that persists even AFTER you close your browser.

To state that these are even remotely similar is much like saying "you have a cell phone, so you shouldn't mind having hidden video cameras installed in your bathroom without your knowledge". There's an order of magnitude difference there in terms of privacy and risk. Now I am sure there are people who wouldn't mind having video cameras in their bathroom, but they certainly should be fully informed who has access to those cameras, where they're at, and how to remove them if they no longer want them... shouldn't they?

Remember the flap Sony got for their rootkit software on their music CDs? There's a good reason for that. It's simply unacceptable for many of us to allow a third party company to put an application on our computers without our knowledge that replaces core system files and is virtually impossible to ever remove completely, that can and does hijack our system and choose which programs can and cannot run on our systems.

How about the long list of other applications that Gameguard breaks? Does Gameguard get to decide we no longer need Motherboard Monitor or Netlimiter?

Now maybe your comfort level is ok with allowing a potentially destructive bit of software from some corporation who has yet another corporation's best interests... not yours... at heart essentially sieze control over your systems. But some of us have some concerns about that which are quite legitimate.


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This is over the top mental slavery.