AVG now with Ad's
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ArcticFahx,
Posted on: 2009-08-08 14:08 in ALL ACCESS Gameplay Technical Issues Bugs
Avast.
When I switched from AVAST! to AVG I cant remove AVAST, I tried to reinstall and it wont even let me do it.
I havent gotten any ads with AVG
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I don't notice any real ad or pop-up from AVG free edition. There is an ad at the bottom of the window asking me to upgrade AVG, but that's the only one I got.
I use Comodo for my firewall and AV, and it works fairly well.
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Originally Posted by Back Alley Brawler
Did you just use "casual gamer" and "purpled-out warshade" in the same sentence?
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Same for me. No pop ups and no adds except the one at the bottom|
Originally Posted by Twilight_Snow
I don't notice any real ad or pop-up from AVG free edition. There is an ad at the bottom of the window asking me to upgrade AVG, but that's the only one I got.
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Second this. After I install it I do a little bit of tweaking (like disabling the skins, turning off the update notification sound, turn off VRDB and merge the icons, etc), and am pretty much never bothered by it again.
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Originally Posted by darksky7700
Avast.
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!
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Originally Posted by mereman
Same for me. No pop ups and no adds except the one at the bottom
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I have the ad in the bottom, but I also get the pop up box after each scan.
I'll see if I can get a screen shot and go from there I guess.
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Ive noticed the pop-up ad is only when they have specials on AVG pro which is like every other weekend...
I have been installing Microsofts AV:
http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/
For me its the path of least resistance to have a line item "I have Antivirus" checkbox. I am no longer of the opinion that desktop AV is providing any significant protection, people need to change their internet habits and use other types of protections. For about a year, maybe 2, I have seen every major and minor AV product completely bypassed by todays 0day polymorphic infectors and rootkits.
You can still get the current beta at Softpedia, but I expect MS will release it pretty soon now.
I dont' use it myself, I have my AV and spam protection on my Router with no desktop AV except for an 'install' of Clam AV portable to scan files when I feel like it.
If AVG has pop-up ads, I don't see them, because I have it scan while I'm at work.
I switched to AVG when Avast couldn't do anything about the trojan I had. It found it, and claimed it removed it, and then there it was, still there. AVG not only removed that trojan, but found other problems that Avast didn't.
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What you are saying is you will not see a doctor because there is no vaccine yet for swine flu.|
Originally Posted by Hugginator
I have been installing Microsofts AV:
http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/ For me its the path of least resistance to have a line item "I have Antivirus" checkbox. I am no longer of the opinion that desktop AV is providing any significant protection, people need to change their internet habits and use other types of protections. For about a year, maybe 2, I have seen every major and minor AV product completely bypassed by todays 0day polymorphic infectors and rootkits. You can still get the current beta at Softpedia, but I expect MS will release it pretty soon now. I dont' use it myself, I have my AV and spam protection on my Router with no desktop AV except for an 'install' of Clam AV portable to scan files when I feel like it. |
Interesting.
lol, "zomg...the virii and trojanz are getting really good, so might as well just let them in and not even try to stop them!"
That line of thinking is just asinine, you are probably infected and don't even know it.
from OP: "That's the one thing that I loved, no ad's, no crap clogging your system, low resources, etc."
This has not been AVG for a very long time now, ever since 7.5+ it's gown down hill drastically.
Avira AntiVir Personal is one of the best freeware AV kits, and with one simple line edit in registery gets rid of the one reminder that you are using the freeware each time it auto updates, just google for it.
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What I am saying is that the doctor is useless and can't help you, I have seen every major AV product completely rooted in the last 2 years or so, over and over again.|
Originally Posted by OriginalGrim
What you are saying is you will not see a doctor because there is no vaccine yet for swine flu.
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In fact in some cases the AV has caused more problems than the viruses in the same timeframe.
And i'm not running without protections, I have just pushed them to the most logical and efficient place:
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| I have my AV and spam protection on my Router |
I scan hard media manually, I am completely on top of my browsing, I have not had a virus on one of my PC's in 10 years or more and no more than 2 ever, and 1 single piece of spyware ever.
I don't expect my AV and anti-malware software to prevent me from getting infected except from older, well known viruses. I use my AV and anti-malware software to notify me as soon as possible that I've been infected.
I rely on Firefox or any browser that isn't tied at the hip with the OS, keeping my software up to date things such as Flash, a 3rd party PDF reader (Foxit) as well as "good" browsing habits to prevent me from downloading any trojans. If I was on a broadband connection I would also use a router with a hardware firewall as well.
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So basically you are saying AV's are useless and don't do anything. Yet you still have one, wether on your router or desktop, they both perform the same function.
Well, apparently is saved you at least twice.
Because you have incredible luck regarding your exposure, how does this say that the AV's don't work or are useless? That is like saying "I have never been shot while wearing a Kevlar Vest, there for wearing one won't protect me from a gunshot." Even though it has been proven to do so.
It's not clear if you are talking to me or not FMJ but I rather assume that my antivirus software won't protect me from infection 100% of the time than assume that it does and therefore never run a full drive scan to be sure.
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Doh, sorry FatherXmas. No, i was not referring to you, you posted yours while I was writing mine. (took me a while to complete since i was raiding in EQ2 at the time.
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For the last couple weeks an ad pops up off AVG. It might not be considered by some an Ad but its basicly giving me a discount offer to buy the full version of AVG. I guess i can live with it since basicly i have had free virus protect for like 3 years with no issues. But i agree its kinda iratating. |
Originally Posted by Twilight_Snow
I don't notice any real ad or pop-up from AVG free edition. There is an ad at the bottom of the window asking me to upgrade AVG, but that's the only one I got.
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If they start offering others products ill be gone for sure. But i guess since i use theirs for free i can let them make me an offer i have no problem refusing.
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As FatherX noted, the best that desktop AV can do today is to notify you that the computer is infected, and stop older known viruses which generally only last a week or 2, with a few notable exceptions.|
Originally Posted by F_M_J
So basically you are saying AV's are useless and don't do anything. Yet you still have one, wether on your router or desktop, they both perform the same function.
Well, apparently is saved you at least twice. Because you have incredible luck regarding your exposure, how does this say that the AV's don't work or are useless? That is like saying "I have never been shot while wearing a Kevlar Vest, there for wearing one won't protect me from a gunshot." Even though it has been proven to do so. |
As he also noted, separation of the browser from the OS is the next most powerful protection, sandboxing can accomplish this for any (afaik) browser out there today.
It notified me twice, and it has nothing at all to do with luck, I am personally so far off the virus radar it takes extraordinary circumstances for me to be infected.
I don't use Outlook any version, never have.
I don't use MS Office, stopped after 97.
I don't use Internet Explorer, never have.
I have used sandboxed browsers for years.
I have used no-script nearly since the day it was released.
And more.
I still think the general public should have the line item checkbox of 'i have AV' but its value is significantly eroded and in the last 2 years or so its almost useless.
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I also follow those same examples, however I have had my AV intercept half a dozen attempts to infect my comp over the last year. Yes, they were older viruses/trojans but that doesn't make them any less dangerous, and if I did not have an AV there could have been some dire consequences. Sure it is getting tougher to catch the brand new 0-day ones, but with the increasing sophistication of the heuristics engines they do a decent job, and to say they can't stop an infection from occurring is ridiculous. Sure it's not perfect, but that in no way makes it any less important to have a current, reliable and proven AV solution.|
Originally Posted by Hugginator
As FatherX noted, the best that desktop AV can do today is to notify you that the computer is infected, and stop older known viruses which generally only last a week or 2, with a few notable exceptions.
As he also noted, separation of the browser from the OS is the next most powerful protection, sandboxing can accomplish this for any (afaik) browser out there today. It notified me twice, and it has nothing at all to do with luck, I am personally so far off the virus radar it takes extraordinary circumstances for me to be infected. I don't use Outlook any version, never have. I don't use MS Office, stopped after 97. I don't use Internet Explorer, never have. I have used sandboxed browsers for years. I have used no-script nearly since the day it was released. And more. I still think the general public should have the line item checkbox of 'i have AV' but its value is significantly eroded and in the last 2 years or so its almost useless. |
It seems you are arguing that they are next to useless, yet still use them. I guess I just don't understand your duality in this, so I will stop trying.
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Originally Posted by F_M_J
I also follow those same examples, however I have had my AV intercept half a dozen attempts to infect my comp over the last year. Yes, they were older viruses/trojans but that doesn't make them any less dangerous, and if I did not have an AV there could have been some dire consequences. Sure it is getting tougher to catch the brand new 0-day ones, but with the increasing sophistication of the heuristics engines they do a decent job, and to say they can't stop an infection from occurring is ridiculous. Sure it's not perfect, but that in no way makes it any less important to have a current, reliable and proven AV solution.
It seems you are arguing that they are next to useless, yet still use them. I guess I just don't understand your duality in this, so I will stop trying. |
Knock it off!
People will think we're having a civil discussion! FMJ sucks.
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I have cleaned up about 100 of the WinAntivirus2009(lots of variants) in the last 2 years or so, including the rootkit versions. All of those desktops had up to date major name brand retail and or corporate AV, you name it, it was rooted. Half the time the AV didn't even know the PC was infected or the virus simply disabled the AV, the other half the AV reported a file, but the other 15 files it couldn't find.
I'm not saying remove AV from the picture, just don't rely on it, it will let you down spectacularly. Everyone needs to adjust to overcome the phishing, trojans and social engineering the virus writers are moving towards.
Those 2 Czechoslovakian guys(iirc) who are behind the WinAntivirus, used many different methods, including infected Flash Ads, Trojan emails purporting to be from your Airline or Courier company 'here are details of your package in zip format', same but emails with links to infection sites, etc etc.
FMJ sucks.
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Originally Posted by Hugginator
I'm not saying remove AV from the picture, just don't rely on it, it will let you down spectacularly. Everyone needs to adjust to overcome the phishing, trojans and social engineering the virus writers are moving towards. |
I look at my antivirus as the last line of defense. If you're someone who is consistently discovering viruses on their system--to coin an internet meme, you're doing it wrong.
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I had a system last year that got one of the variant infections about 4 days after I put it on a math teacher's desk. She was the only one to have logged onto the computer, and checking her surfing history showed that she had only gone to legitimate Math websites and had received no emails with attachments or even junk email. She's not computer literate enough to have hidden her surfing tracks, in fact, she'd likely be surprised that there ARE ways you can hide where you've been.|
Originally Posted by Hugginator
Knock it off!
People will think we're having a civil discussion! FMJ sucks. 'Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!' I have cleaned up about 100 of the WinAntivirus2009(lots of variants) in the last 2 years or so, including the rootkit versions. All of those desktops had up to date major name brand retail and or corporate AV, you name it, it was rooted. Half the time the AV didn't even know the PC was infected or the virus simply disabled the AV, the other half the AV reported a file, but the other 15 files it couldn't find. I'm not saying remove AV from the picture, just don't rely on it, it will let you down spectacularly. Everyone needs to adjust to overcome the phishing, trojans and social engineering the virus writers are moving towards. Those 2 Czechoslovakian guys(iirc) who are behind the WinAntivirus, used many different methods, including infected Flash Ads, Trojan emails purporting to be from your Airline or Courier company 'here are details of your package in zip format', same but emails with links to infection sites, etc etc. FMJ sucks. |
The Corporate AV solution we use saw an infection, quarantined a file, but left the real problem installed and reported that nothing was amiss.
Luckily, she was smart enough to contact me immediately and I got rid of it with Malwarebytes right away.
Also, we have rules in our web filtering appliance to stop most of these, but occaisionally get hit when a new variant is released until we can identify it and get a new ruleset written to block the new variant.
It's a constant battle, especially working with educators that are generally not very computer literate (especially those that think they are).
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I've always used AVG for my virus/spyware/etc.. software, and I know its one that I personally tell people to get and here on the forums, the tech people do also.
My one concern is why are we getting ad's now? Thats the one thing that I loved, no ad's, no crap clogging your system, low resources, etc..
Don't get me wrong, the one add pop up isn't bad, but after its done scanning, boom ad pops up.
Anyone else here in the tech area feel another free virus software is the same as AVG but with no ad's?
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