10 -15, 40-45.
The 40-45 gap is HORRIBLE. Its like, oh well you can run ITF all the time. Well...yesss, but thats kinda beside the point.
Also, while on the subject of Villain TFS, PLEASE dear GOD cut the ammount of Longbow Hunt missions in the Leviathan SF! Its....AURGHH. Yes, that about sums it up. Sersiously. Why are there so many Hunt missions in general?
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The 30-35 gap is more horrible-er.
I would probably play villains more if there were more sf's.
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10 -15, 40-45.
The 40-45 gap is HORRIBLE. Its like, oh well you can run ITF all the time. Well...yesss, but thats kinda beside the point.
Also, while on the subject of Villain TFS, PLEASE dear GOD cut the ammount of Longbow Hunt missions in the Leviathan SF! Its....AURGHH. Yes, that about sums it up. Sersiously. Why are there so many Hunt missions in general?
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Don't forget the gap in the shape of 30-35. I agree Villains needs more TFs. /signed
Vills lack a 10-15, 30-35 and 40-45 SF and to me these are pretty huge holes, esp the later two. 30-35 is a horrible grind sometimes, and 40-45 now only has ITF to suffer the lag on for vills. Less people play vills is the reasoning behind us not getting new SFs, but I think the Devs have grossly missed the point in that less people play vills because people rightly believe there is less in the way of content red side. It's perfectly possible to lvl a toon from 10-50 purely on TFs hero side, and that is totally impossible villain side.
I think it realy is time the devs sorted this out. It's bad enough we get no hazard zones, sewer equivalent, but to me this big hole has always just been insulting to the villain population.
Yess, yessss. Would really like more.
Lvl 30-35, 40-45 and 45-50! I dont think lvl 10-15 is nesessary, nowadays you level so fast its fine to wait for Tarikoss at lvl 16. But I would like more endgame content just for villains. That LRST gets kinda boring once you've ran it like 5 times. So some new SF for lvl 50 villains please. Something epic.
My main toons on Union:
Majer; Dark/Dark Corruptor
Caitlin Calathea; Plant/Thorns Dominator
Davallia Fejeensis; Empathy/Archery Defender
My arc:
ID 98789, What once was, will be again.
I wouldn't mind another Epic Coop TF either. 
More end content is good content.
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Yes we get hamidon, yet another thing thats both sides and doesn't actually count to this rant whatsoever.
And people moan about the length of the trials etc they hate blueside but at least you have the option. We got 9 TFs less content to not do and thus the reason vill TFs take 60% less time is because we got nowt else to do and know them like the back of our hands as we lack 9 others to mix it up!
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I wonder if the lack of dev support in adding new SFs has a lot to do with the fact that fewer people play villains? It's just not worth their while.
But certainly there should be a SF for every level range in the game IMO.
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Actually i wonder after MArch, if we will get any new TF or SF at all.
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Huh whats happening in march likes thats gona put a stop to new TFs?
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Yes we get hamidon, yet another thing thats both sides and doesn't actually count to this rant whatsoever.
And people moan about the length of the trials etc they hate blueside but at least you have the option. We got 9 TFs less content to not do and thus the reason vill TFs take 60% less time is because we got nowt else to do and know them like the back of our hands as we lack 9 others to mix it up!
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I wonder if the lack of dev support in adding new SFs has a lot to do with the fact that fewer people play villains? It's just not worth their while.
But certainly there should be a SF for every level range in the game IMO.
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Actually i wonder after MArch, if we will get any new TF or SF at all.
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Huh whats happening in march likes thats gona put a stop to new TFs?
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Mission Architect probably.
I hope not.
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So do i because for the people not interested in it, the mission architect means jack [censored].
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Yes we get hamidon, yet another thing thats both sides and doesn't actually count to this rant whatsoever.
And people moan about the length of the trials etc they hate blueside but at least you have the option. We got 9 TFs less content to not do and thus the reason vill TFs take 60% less time is because we got nowt else to do and know them like the back of our hands as we lack 9 others to mix it up!
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I wonder if the lack of dev support in adding new SFs has a lot to do with the fact that fewer people play villains? It's just not worth their while.
But certainly there should be a SF for every level range in the game IMO.
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Actually i wonder after MArch, if we will get any new TF or SF at all.
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Huh whats happening in march likes thats gona put a stop to new TFs?
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Mission Architect probably.
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I doubt it i recon well get at least 1 joint TF/SF for the coming storm maybe even a villain and a hero version.
Also a quick question to those that wont more SFs villain side. Why? is it purely because heroes have more? or is it down to merits?
If its down to merits whats wrong with OB get a team together then go do one of the mission arcs villains have some very good story arcs in the 40-50 range and if done as a Ora TF all members get merritts.
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Yes we get hamidon, yet another thing thats both sides and doesn't actually count to this rant whatsoever.
And people moan about the length of the trials etc they hate blueside but at least you have the option. We got 9 TFs less content to not do and thus the reason vill TFs take 60% less time is because we got nowt else to do and know them like the back of our hands as we lack 9 others to mix it up!
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I wonder if the lack of dev support in adding new SFs has a lot to do with the fact that fewer people play villains? It's just not worth their while.
But certainly there should be a SF for every level range in the game IMO.
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Actually i wonder after MArch, if we will get any new TF or SF at all.
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Huh whats happening in march likes thats gona put a stop to new TFs?
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Mission Architect probably.
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I doubt it i recon well get at least 1 joint TF/SF for the coming storm maybe even a villain and a hero version.
Also a quick question to those that wont more SFs villain side. Why? is it purely because heroes have more? or is it down to merits?
If its down to merits whats wrong with OB get a team together then go do one of the mission arcs villains have some very good story arcs in the 40-50 range and if done as a Ora TF all members get merritts.
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Its down to the lack of anything big and worthwhile in those ranges. Id forgotten the gap at 30-35, which is where im stuck right now with my stalker. TFs are great for a bigger challenge and really good exp and, while Heroes might not ALL do them, they have the choice. Villains are stuck with very few, and after a certain level you wont be able to do ANY and get exp for them. Which sucks really bad, IMO.
Merits dont really figure AS much, but would probably still factor for some people.
Options, its all about options. Options are good!
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So do i because for the people not interested in it, the mission architect means jack [censored].
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Yes it is Mission Architect.
I am bit worried about it. I mean devs can decide it is enough to keep playerbase occupied with player designed missions. I know probably some of them will be great but i want so see more TFs done by professionals in game. Especially ones done with STF or ITF style.
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Yes it is Mission Architect.
I am bit worried about it. I mean devs can decide it is enough to keep playerbase occupied with player designed missions. I know probably some of them will be great but i want so see more TFs done by professionals in game. Especially ones done with STF or ITF style.
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I do too, that is why we pay subs after all.
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Yes we get hamidon, yet another thing thats both sides and doesn't actually count to this rant whatsoever.
And people moan about the length of the trials etc they hate blueside but at least you have the option. We got 9 TFs less content to not do and thus the reason vill TFs take 60% less time is because we got nowt else to do and know them like the back of our hands as we lack 9 others to mix it up!
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I wonder if the lack of dev support in adding new SFs has a lot to do with the fact that fewer people play villains? It's just not worth their while.
But certainly there should be a SF for every level range in the game IMO.
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Actually i wonder after MArch, if we will get any new TF or SF at all.
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Huh whats happening in march likes thats gona put a stop to new TFs?
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Mission Architect probably.
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I doubt it i recon well get at least 1 joint TF/SF for the coming storm maybe even a villain and a hero version.
Also a quick question to those that wont more SFs villain side. Why? is it purely because heroes have more? or is it down to merits?
If its down to merits whats wrong with OB get a team together then go do one of the mission arcs villains have some very good story arcs in the 40-50 range and if done as a Ora TF all members get merritts.
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I dont care what heroes have i just want something to do other than missions at all levels of a villains progress.
But surly a TF is just missions?
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If you look at the older ones like Positron, Sister Psyche, Citadel or Manticore. Those all use regular mission maps and mobs. Synapse saves his face with last mission and GM spawn. Numina saves hers with another GM spawn.
In all of the TFs Eden Trial, Sewers Trial, LGTF, STF, SSTF 2 and ITF have unique features. (Still need to do SSTF 1,3,4)
The ones i mentioned in the first paragraph (Posi and others) i can make them with MArch as well. Just need to put in some mission briefing which i doubt hardly anyone read that briefings on TFs.
As we still didn't see MArch alive, depending on the freedom playarbase/modders have (if we will have Bioware/NWN kind of freedom), there will be much better mission archs or even TFs done by players.
EDIT: If you mean Merits or Special pool drops, well for me those things means nothing. I just like to enjoy TFs and with special ones i love the feeling of accomplishment you have at the end.
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Righto.
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TFs are just missions with bright shny merit rewards.
That's why the OP doesn't care that, whilst heroes have more TFs, most of them are rubbish compared to the villain SFs.
Whilst there is an imabalance villain side, I think that realstically it is unlikely that we will ever see any new TFs that aren't co-op.
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TFs are just missions with bright shny merit rewards.
That's why the OP doesn't care that, whilst heroes have more TFs, most of them are rubbish compared to the villain SFs.
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No they aint, pretty much all the villain TF's contain unique bits.
There just aint enough of them.
Missions can contain unique bits to.
And if you are defining your TFs by having unique bits, then villains are much better off than heroes already.
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Missions can contain unique bits to.
And if you are defining your TFs by having unique bits, then villains are much better off than heroes already.
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I really cant be arsed with the usual pedantic argument with you today Praff, i define a TF as a TF, villain side the TF's aint just missions they are unique, and better off content wise than heroes or not, there are 2 gaping holes in the levels of villain TF's.
All i am saying is i would like to see them filled.
Sure, we would all like new content with unique stuff, but the devs now realise that splitting the playerbase was a major error, and it is unlikely that they will ever add anything major that is limited to one or the other faction ever again.
I really should do something about this signature.
Villains badly need a 40-45 SF, not having one is a gaping hole.