Dark Master gives you TT + Burn
"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"
Yea, Dark would give you a nice immob so you can round mobs up , TT them , double build up and burn them away while finishing off others with your other AoEs.
My spine/fire is almost 41 now and tbh, you want energy for conserve. The end drain on it is horrible, and u cut thru mobs fast enough with BA and quils running fast enough anyways. atm with just lvl 35 IOs my toon can sustain agro cap quite easily and 2 shot um all, double bu > throw spines > spine burst basically kills everything, just need to use ripper or impale on the bosses since the auras will take care of anyone that survives.
Is your toon for pvp or pve btw. for PvE i would go fighting pool for some more s/l res, for pvp id go stealth pool for phase.
Phase on a scrapper??
Well i know its hard to do but would like to get it a bit general purpose pvp/pve.
Doesnt consume help with end chim?
Just wanted to add on my 50 scrap i took leadership/body mastery.
Just wanted to do something different this time.
Stealth is a possibility.
My spines/fire will be goin with dark mastery. He's level 40 at the moment. If you dont get the immob from dark, personally im not sure theres much point in burn as when ever you use it and the mobs aren't immob they just run away. But immob burn spine burst ripper, plus both auras, most things should be dead very very very quickly. Also Im taking the fighting pool for tough as I think a little more s/l resistants wouldnt hurt. But my build is is for PvE.
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Phase on a scrapper??
Well i know its hard to do but would like to get it a bit general purpose pvp/pve.
Doesnt consume help with end chim?
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Phase ftfw 
, ive got phase on my spine/sr and i barely ever die with it now. On a /fire scrapper it would be even nicer i think because u can use the heal while phased.
IMO consume is a waste for pvp, id much rather get the rez or something for pvp for the ability to stun, this is ofc assuming u died 
This is the build i plan on going for with my spine/fire
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.30
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Spine Reborn: Level 50 Mutation Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Spines
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Concealment
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery
Hero Profile:
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Level 1: Barb Swipe
(A) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
(45) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 40
(46) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 40
(46) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge: Level 40
(46) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage: Level 40
Level 1: Fire Shield
(A) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance: Level 40
(3) Titanium Coating - Resistance: Level 40
(3) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
(39) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance: Level 40
(48) Impervium Armor - Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
(50) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection: Level 30
Level 2: Lunge
(A) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative): Level 50
(43) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(43) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(43) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(45) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
Level 4: Healing Flames
(A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge: Level 40
(5) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
(5) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance: Level 40
(11) Miracle - Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
(23) Miracle - Heal/Recharge: Level 40
(37) Miracle - Heal/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
Level 6: Build Up
(A) HamiO:Membrane Exposure
(7) HamiO:Membrane Exposure
(7) HamiO:Membrane Exposure
Level 8: Impale
(A) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative): Level 50
(9) Apocalypse - Damage: Level 50
(9) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(11) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(15) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(36) Range IO: Level 50
Level 10: Hurdle
(A) Jumping IO: Level 50
(13) Jumping IO: Level 50
Level 12: Combat Jumping
(A) Jumping IO: Level 50
(13) Jumping IO: Level 50
(40) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 40
(48) Karma - Knockback Protection: Level 30
Level 14: Super Jump
(A) HamiO:Microfilament Exposure
(15) HamiO:Microfilament Exposure
Level 16: Plasma Shield
(A) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance: Level 40
(17) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
(17) Titanium Coating - Resistance: Level 40
(37) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance: Level 40
(42) Impervium Armor - Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
(48) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection: Level 30
Level 18: Health
(A) Miracle - +Recovery: Level 40
(19) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery: Level 40
(19) Numina's Convalescence - Heal: Level 40
(23) Miracle - Heal: Level 40
(39) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge: Level 40
(39) Miracle - Heal/Recharge: Level 40
Level 20: Stamina
(A) Performance Shifter - EndMod: Level 40
(21) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge: Level 40
(21) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy: Level 40
(50) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End: Level 50
Level 22: Acrobatics
(A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 24: Hasten
(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(25) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(25) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 26: Ripper
(A) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage: Level 50
(27) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(27) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(29) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(34) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(37) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure
Level 28: Super Speed
(A) HamiO:Microfilament Exposure
(29) Celerity - Endurance: Level 41
(40) Celerity - RunSpeed: Level 41
(50) Celerity - +Stealth: Level 41
Level 30: Stealth
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 41
(31) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 41
(31) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 41
(31) Luck of the Gambler - Endurance/Recharge: Level 41
(40) Kismet - Accuracy +6%: Level 30
Level 32: Throw Spines
(A) Ragnarok - Damage: Level 50
(33) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(33) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(33) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(34) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(34) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy): Level 40
Level 35: Fiery Embrace
(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(36) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(36) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 38: Rise of the Phoenix
(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 41: Focused Accuracy
(A) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure
(42) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure
(42) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure
Level 44: Conserve Power
(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(45) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 47: Grant Invisibility
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
Level 49: Phase Shift
(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
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Level 1: Brawl
(A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint
(A) Empty
Level 2: Rest
(A) Empty
Level 1: Critical Hit
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Set Bonus Totals:
+4% DamageBuff
+61% Enhancement(Accuracy)
+67.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
+5% FlySpeed
+230.5 (19.1%) HitPoints
+5% JumpSpeed
+Knockback (Mag -12)
+MezResist(Immobilize) (Mag 4.4%)
+MezResist(Sleep) (Mag 4.4%)
+24.5% Recovery
+50% Regeneration
+7.56% Resistance(Fire)
+7.56% Resistance(Cold)
+5% RunSpeed
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Only 20 atm but not sure where to go with build. Then i was thinking of weapon master for clatrops+burn.
Any advice appreciated.
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I too have this problem but i'm only level 28, however i am making this toon primarily for farming as i have gotten bored of my fire/kin.. hes too squishy lol. I was wondering what would be the better epic power pool for a spines/fire farmer.
Either Weapons Mastery or Dark Mastery?
With Weapon Mastery i can use caltrops to slow their movement down whilst inflicting burn, but does this fear them causing them to run in pain? if not then i could get Exploding Shuriken which would add to my damage output
However Dark Mastery offers tenebrous tentacles but no other AoE or amazingly useful attack as far as im aware of (for farming anyway)
Please, if anyone can give some advice i would heavily appreciate it as i dont know what to do
(PS: i got my spines/fire from level 1-28 in 7 hours with breaks ofc new record for me aha)
Thanks again n' Peace Out
Nuke. x
Would the build that SRM_Chim posted be ok for PvE? I noticed that he didn't include Blazing Aura and Spine Burst in his build.
Contact me in-game: @CheeseSlicer
That build is more PvP IMO, since no aura, no spineburst, no quills. And its a VERY expensive build.
Would someone be able to sort me out a straight IO (not the expensive ones) build for PvE, as I want to make a Spines/Fire but don't know where to start.
Contact me in-game: @CheeseSlicer
I used this build for farming, and it was quite good. The only "special" IO's it has are two -kb ones to save me from having to get acrobatics
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1,4006
http://www.cohplanner.com/
Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Spines
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Darkness Mastery
Hero Profile:
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Level 1: Lunge Acc-I:50(A)
Level 1: Fire Shield S'fstPrt-ResKB:30(A), ResDam-I:50(3), ResDam-I:50(3), ResDam-I:50(13), EndRdx-I:50(42), EndRdx-I:50(43)
Level 2: Spine Burst Acc-I:50(A), Acc-I:50(15), Dmg-I:50(15), Dmg-I:50(17), Dmg-I:50(17), EndRdx-I:50(36)
Level 4: Healing Flames RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(5), RechRdx-I:50(5), Heal-I:50(39), Heal-I:50(40), Heal-I:50(40)
Level 6: Build Up RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(7), RechRdx-I:50(7)
Level 8: Impale Acc-I:50(A), Dmg-I:50(9), Dmg-I:50(9), Dmg-I:50(13), Acc-I:50(37), EndRdx-I:50(37)
Level 10: Hasten RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(11), RechRdx-I:50(11)
Level 12: Hurdle Jump-I:50(A), Jump-I:50(42), Jump-I:50(46)
Level 14: Super Speed EndRdx-I:50(A)
Level 16: Health Heal-I:50(A)
Level 18: Plasma Shield S'fstPrt-ResKB:30(A), ResDam-I:50(19), ResDam-I:50(19), ResDam-I:50(37), EndRdx-I:50(40), EndRdx-I:50(43)
Level 20: Stamina EndMod-I:50(A), EndMod-I:50(21), EndMod-I:50(21)
Level 22: Consume RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(23), RechRdx-I:50(23)
Level 24: Quills Acc-I:50(A), Dmg-I:50(25), Dmg-I:50(25), Dmg-I:50(31), EndRdx-I:50(31), Acc-I:50(31)
Level 26: Ripper Acc-I:50(A), Dmg-I:50(27), Dmg-I:50(27), Dmg-I:50(29), Acc-I:50(29), EndRdx-I:50(34)
Level 28: Kick Acc-I:50(A)
Level 30: Blazing Aura Acc-I:50(A), Acc-I:50(43), Dmg-I:50(45), Dmg-I:50(45), Dmg-I:50(45), EndRdx-I:50(46)
Level 32: Throw Spines Acc-I:50(A), Dmg-I:50(33), Dmg-I:50(33), Dmg-I:50(33), Acc-I:50(34), EndRdx-I:50(34)
Level 35: Burn Dmg-I:50(A), Dmg-I:50(36), Dmg-I:50(36), RechRdx-I:50(42), RechRdx-I:50(46)
Level 38: Fiery Embrace RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(39), RechRdx-I:50(39)
Level 41: Petrifying Gaze Acc-I:50(A)
Level 44: Dark Blast Acc-I:50(A)
Level 47: Tough ResDam-I:50(A), ResDam-I:50(48), ResDam-I:50(48), EndRdx-I:50(48)
Level 49: Tenebrous Tentacles Acc-I:50(A), Acc-I:50(50), RechRdx-I:50(50), EndRdx-I:50(50)
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Level 1: Brawl Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Thank you very much Dark_Blasphemy. I shall use that guide as a base for my build. Very much appreciated Just thought I'd ask (it won't make much difference to me) how this build is endurance wise? Will I have to carry around a bucket load of blues?
Contact me in-game: @CheeseSlicer
I'm going to use this build on my spines/fire. Sure, it will cost a lot but it will also have other uses than farming too. Not sure yet if tough is a must, I think I should do ok with 35% S/L resist and healing flames...
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1,4006
http://www.cohplanner.com/
Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Spines
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Darkness Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Lunge -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(43), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 1: Fire Shield -- TtmC'tng-ResDam(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(3), TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg(3), EndRdx-I(5)
Level 2: Spine Burst -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(40), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(40), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(42), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(42), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42)
Level 4: Healing Flames -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(5), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(19), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(39), Dct'dW-Heal(40)
Level 6: Blazing Aura -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(7), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx(7), Sciroc-Dam%(13), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(15), M'Strk-Acc/EndRdx(15)
Level 8: Impale -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(9), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(9), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(11), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(13)
Level 10: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 12: Combat Jumping -- Ksmt-ToHit+(A)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Jump-I(A)
Level 16: Plasma Shield -- TtmC'tng-ResDam(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(17), TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg(17), EndRdx-I(19)
Level 18: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(45), Mrcl-Heal(46), Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx(46)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(21), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(21), P'Shift-End%(37)
Level 22: Consume -- P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(23), P'Shift-Acc/Rchg(23), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(37)
Level 24: Quills -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(25), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx(25), Sciroc-Dam%(34), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36), M'Strk-Acc/EndRdx(37)
Level 26: Ripper -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(27), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(27), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(31), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(31), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 28: Build Up -- AdjTgt-ToHit(A), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(29), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(29), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(45), AdjTgt-Rchg(46)
Level 30: Acrobatics -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 32: Throw Spines -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(33), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33), Posi-Dam%(34), RechRdx-I(34)
Level 35: Fiery Embrace -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(36), RechRdx-I(36)
Level 38: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(39), RechRdx-I(39)
Level 41: Torrent -- Acc-I(A)
Level 44: Dark Blast -- Acc-I(A)
Level 47: Tenebrous Tentacles -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(48), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(48), Posi-Dam%(50)
Level 49: Burn -- Dmg-I(A), Dmg-I(50), M'Strk-Dmg/Rchg(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
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- @DSorrow - alts on Union and Freedom mostly -
Currently playing as Castigation on Freedom
My Katana/Inv Guide
Anyone who doesn't take truth seriously in small matters cannot be trusted in large ones either. -Einstein
How does Spines/Fire compare to FireKin ?
better worse, faster slower.?? Anyone know?
Carlsberg don't do Farming,
But if they did..........
I'd say Fire/Kin is faster plus Fiery Armor makes squishy scrappers. Spines/Fire would have been probably the best farmer for the Behemoths mish, but that one has been nerfed so I'd stick to Fire/Kin or, for the current favourite farming mishes, Spines/Inv or Spines/WP work fine, maybe not as fast as fire/kin but much tougher.
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How does Spines/Fire compare to FireKin ?
better worse, faster slower.?? Anyone know?
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They completely own fire/kin- And ideally, if you can bring a */kin or kin/* with you for FS, you rock. From what I've experienced, they're just as fast, if not faster
Hm, now if only I could think of a decent concept for a Spines/Fire/Dark that makes sense, I'd give one a try.
I'm going for BM now, my original plan changed, I see no need for Burn any more and ET gives survivability
"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"
Hmmm, although BU+Fiery Embrace+Burn+Spine Burst = teh lulz
Aye but BU + FE + ET + TS is where I want to get my kicks. 6 more levels though
"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"
Hehe, will be able to test about BU+FE+ET when my MA/Fire is on such lvl able to do so, after ET I'll have to improvise I'm afraid, maybe asking politely for foes to play dead?
Invite me along and SK me, I'll kill them for you
"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"
Erm... your spines/fire is about 12 lvls higher than my MA/Fire... but I can exemp you
Now all we have to do is make you log in the game sometime...
Only 20 atm but not sure where to go with build.
Im fine up to 38. Fitness/Speed/Leaping.
Not sure what to take then. Leadership? Not sure if i can be bothered with them.
Stealth or fighting i think.
Then i was thinking of weapon master for clatrops+burn.
Want to go for a midway pve/pvp build.
Any advice appreciated.