Dark_Blasphemy_EU

Ah but those make no difference at all after EA, or teaming with an ice def or empath . Without those buffs, they shouldn't make much a threat anyway tho, maybe hellions at really low level

Ah, so they do got weaknesses at all?

Nothing wrong on survavility side with wp, it's easily one of the most survivable set in the game, and that doesn't apply to tanks only. The issue with wp is the aggro management.They just can't keep baddies attention on them, and you don't have to play an aoe blaster to notice that... trollers and scrappers get the aggro out of them in groups, and having the wp tank heavy taunt and aoe slotted doesn't make a difference -and no, I didn't experience this playing with noob wp tanks, but guys with several years of experience and lots of 50s, many of them tanks, too-.

About the comparison with the other tank primaries, I pretty much agree with you on fire and dark, but I got lost with ice tanks being 'odd' and invul ones being 'lol'

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The radius is the same.

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Mud pots radius grows when in granite form tho

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The animation grows but I'm pretty sure the actual radius doesn't. Same with Dispersion Bubble / Sonic Dispersion.

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So... the animation grows but radius stays the same. Is the animation thingie yet another graphical glitch then?

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The radius is the same.

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Mud pots radius grows when in granite form tho

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A WP tanker can hold aggro, but they have to do it by spamming taunt.

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Which would be somehow a patch if taunt wasn't capped at 5 foes max

I will use my ill/rad scrappie for that then

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Anyway, GA is worse at aggro holding unless they pick up an extra taunt from the presence pool.

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That's not true. Any AoE toon would outaggro any of them unless they are spamming taunt, granted, but GA aggro aura is way wider than WP's one.

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Why do people still roll WP scr... errr... "tanks" at all?

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Cause it's one of the strongest tanker sets?
If not the strongest.

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I still have to see a WP tank.. All I have come across so far is plenbutherol fed scrappers that hit with pillows on their punches

Yup I can use my ill/rad cont... err.. defender for that

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My thoughts, or a brief view of them, is if DB manages to wake up that the Rad will be good, cause 3 Rads would be perma AM or two rads and one kin is perma AM. This should give perma PA. If DB doesn't make it then the SB would be needed to get the PAs perma.

So if no DB I'd like the kin, if DB is there I dont mind at all

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[censored] rofl! Not my fault you crazy lot want to do this on weeked midday everytime! . Hangovers can be a pain ffs. I'll be bringing Ill/Rad... and it has perma AM by himself if I'm not lazy enough not to cast it everytime it's up btw

PPS. Since tonight got a party I can't miss, i got the alarm on my mobile set alredy, so I'll prolly be there... can't tell you what mood I'll be having, but I'll be there

Why do people still roll WP scr... errr... "tanks" at all?

No, that would be something punctual, not important enough to base your build on

I used this build for farming, and it was quite good. The only "special" IO's it has are two -kb ones to save me from having to get acrobatics

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1,4006
http://www.cohplanner.com/

Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Spines
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Darkness Mastery

Hero Profile:
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Level 1: Lunge Acc-I:50(A)
Level 1: Fire Shield S'fstPrt-ResKB:30(A), ResDam-I:50(3), ResDam-I:50(3), ResDam-I:50(13), EndRdx-I:50(42), EndRdx-I:50(43)
Level 2: Spine Burst Acc-I:50(A), Acc-I:50(15), Dmg-I:50(15), Dmg-I:50(17), Dmg-I:50(17), EndRdx-I:50(36)
Level 4: Healing Flames RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(5), RechRdx-I:50(5), Heal-I:50(39), Heal-I:50(40), Heal-I:50(40)
Level 6: Build Up RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(7), RechRdx-I:50(7)
Level 8: Impale Acc-I:50(A), Dmg-I:50(9), Dmg-I:50(9), Dmg-I:50(13), Acc-I:50(37), EndRdx-I:50(37)
Level 10: Hasten RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(11), RechRdx-I:50(11)
Level 12: Hurdle Jump-I:50(A), Jump-I:50(42), Jump-I:50(46)
Level 14: Super Speed EndRdx-I:50(A)
Level 16: Health Heal-I:50(A)
Level 18: Plasma Shield S'fstPrt-ResKB:30(A), ResDam-I:50(19), ResDam-I:50(19), ResDam-I:50(37), EndRdx-I:50(40), EndRdx-I:50(43)
Level 20: Stamina EndMod-I:50(A), EndMod-I:50(21), EndMod-I:50(21)
Level 22: Consume RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(23), RechRdx-I:50(23)
Level 24: Quills Acc-I:50(A), Dmg-I:50(25), Dmg-I:50(25), Dmg-I:50(31), EndRdx-I:50(31), Acc-I:50(31)
Level 26: Ripper Acc-I:50(A), Dmg-I:50(27), Dmg-I:50(27), Dmg-I:50(29), Acc-I:50(29), EndRdx-I:50(34)
Level 28: Kick Acc-I:50(A)
Level 30: Blazing Aura Acc-I:50(A), Acc-I:50(43), Dmg-I:50(45), Dmg-I:50(45), Dmg-I:50(45), EndRdx-I:50(46)
Level 32: Throw Spines Acc-I:50(A), Dmg-I:50(33), Dmg-I:50(33), Dmg-I:50(33), Acc-I:50(34), EndRdx-I:50(34)
Level 35: Burn Dmg-I:50(A), Dmg-I:50(36), Dmg-I:50(36), RechRdx-I:50(42), RechRdx-I:50(46)
Level 38: Fiery Embrace RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(39), RechRdx-I:50(39)
Level 41: Petrifying Gaze Acc-I:50(A)
Level 44: Dark Blast Acc-I:50(A)
Level 47: Tough ResDam-I:50(A), ResDam-I:50(48), ResDam-I:50(48), EndRdx-I:50(48)
Level 49: Tenebrous Tentacles Acc-I:50(A), Acc-I:50(50), RechRdx-I:50(50), EndRdx-I:50(50)
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Level 1: Brawl Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit

It seems like everytime you log/zone/enter a mission when someone has invited you and you having replied yet causes you to crash. It happenned to me twice in a row so I asked a friend to let me try it, and 3 out of 3 times i got booted from the game, having to verify file after each

Err what? where's my pie?

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Only thing where Stimulants better than ID is that it offers sleep protection and ID does not but you can sort that with a heal if needed.

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Errm and confuse protection too afaik... but on the other hand, ID offers kb protection, which stimulant doesn't

Lol@ a whole weekend offline, it's just getting to hillarious levels

Lol @ demagogy

Aura weak and AV's can move? ss+follow+barrage on auto? That's all a Tank needs to do to vs an AV even when teaming

I'd personally have Taunt myself, and have it on auto when going afk fighting an AV but that doesn't imply Archy's way is wrong

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I am calling you a liar, a fluke or mentally damaged in some way

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but actually attacking you is against the board rules.

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Lol this part reminds me of a program I saw about paranoia last night. Your name isn't Jason by any chance, is it?

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What I am questioning rather strongly is that you went 50 levels as an empath teaming in PuGs and you never had your tank die horribly as they decide to do something silly.

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A tank that does something silly will more than likely make one or several of the squishies die... a tank that does something silly and dies would just happens if the tank was doing something silly, the tank was slotted in a silly way and the empath was silly and slotted in a silly way too -I'm repeating your own words on purpose just to make sure you understand them-

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Is that it? That's the best you got?

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What's that? You taunting me with RotP?

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Dude! you made me spill my dinner laughing damnyou!

A PB is not really your best PvP option

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my emp defender levelled all the way to 50 with random teams and I can't recall of a single time that a tank died on my team... and I never ever fortied them, unless it was a team of 4 or less people.

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This is against the board rules but what the heck, wouldn't be the first time. I agree with a lot of your points, but the above is either a flat out lie, a statistical anomaly or you should see a doctor to have your memory checked man. You can have your eye on the tank the whole time, do your very best and the nut will still die horribly as he decides to agro the whole room in an eightman having forgotten to switch on some of his toggles or just not having taken them.

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I'd like to know what is exactly against the board rules on that post... and about the latter part, even a fire tankw ithout tough would survive the alpha, and that is all an empath needs to keep him alive. In fact, a fire blaster can do the tanker role ion an up to 6 man team with a decent empath supporting him

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lol pvp on EU servers

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Corrected again for accuracy

rad/psi or rad/sonic. They both solo av's pretty easily with th proper slotting at high levels