Tping in PvP

Unfortunately in this case there is only 1 viable target as the 2nd account is sitting deep in the hero/villain base unable to be squished.

To give them their due the operator of this dual account system seems highly skilled in tactical assessment of situational pvp and tps out of danger on a consistantly succesful basis before they can be overwhelmed. I can understand other players frustrations when they are challenged or attacked but then recognise that the encounter can only end with a stalemate or defeat for them as the toon will disappear as they get the upper hand or prepare to deliver the coup de gras only to have the toon disappear into thin air.

As others have said a valid tactic in team pvp but to me at least seems an excercise that proves only on thing when they claim to be running solo......that they run a 2nd account.

Everytime I step into a pvp zone I expect one of 3 things, I win, I loose or we reach an honourable draw (as my ice tank and the fire brute I fought recently agreed). I do not think "oh my god I going to loose this...oh the shame....the shame...better di di mao out of here tout suite"

NB. My pvp record is appalling, I think I must of set my badge title to "give me a kicking, get your free rep points here" but I have fun

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Lets not turn this nice peaceful thread into anything else other than that, shall we?

I'm sure whatever happened to you in zone was deserved...



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Erm, who's said anything out of hand? If you have a problem with something I've said then let me know, with a quote, and I'm happy to discuss it in an open and on topic manner.

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That would be like trying to kill a player on your own side who deliberately confuses themselves using their second account

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Would you like a shovel to go with that dig?

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the operator of this dual account system seems highly skilled in tactical assessment of situational pvp and tps out of danger on a consistantly succesful basis before they can be overwhelmed

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I'll take that as a complement shall i?

Anyway, isnt the general rule
"all's fair in love and war ?"
This statement may also contradict what I said earlier about droning but heh... to quote a famous pirate....

The only rules that really matter are these: what a hero can do and what a hero can't do.

Savvy ?

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The only rules that really matter are these: what a hero can do and what a hero can't do.


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Villains again are marginated

Donna.....taken this one to pms as we arent allowed to discuss spefic accounts on Forums. Please check your pm queue.

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I'll take that as a complement shall i?

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Dont really.Your PvP-fu is weak (at least).

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"all's fair in love and war ?"

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This is not love.Nor war.CoX box didnt have an "Arlekin" stamp on it.

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I disagree i think that Tp Foe is a PvP power, always has been...

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Here is some extra food for thought

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this guy has taken to logging onto his Rad/Cold Corrupter and using TP Foe + Stun to get me as much debt as possible.

This has not been an isolated incident and I can not enjoy pvp in Sirens without this guy hounding me.

Is there anything that can be done to stop this?

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Sounds familiar?

I love threads about TPing in PvP. Now that oranges give tp resistance from TP Foe, I guess Recall friend is next on the list.

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Here is some extra food for thought

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How about instead of spending that much time picking apart other peoples responses you go get a job.

BUM !



**Slams Door on Way out**

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How about instead of spending that much time picking apart other peoples responses you go get a job.

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Yeah exactly because i dont have a job i dont waste my money on paying others to level my toons.Tony says hi by the way.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out

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Lets not turn this nice peaceful thread into anything else other than that, shall we?

I'm sure whatever happened to you in zone was deserved...



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Erm, who's said anything out of hand? If you have a problem with something I've said then let me know, with a quote, and I'm happy to discuss it in an open and on topic manner.

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noobcake

just to clear things up im not apposed to tp friend at all. I,m saying if you are active in a pvp zone ie tping somebody then this should be done with a risk attached. Sp not inside the base.

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just to clear things up im not apposed to tp friend at all. I,m saying if you are active in a pvp zone ie tping somebody then this should be done with a risk attached. Sp not inside the base.

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I am cool with adding a debuff to tp friend and tp foe to be honest.Or increase tp friend animation or something.

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noobcake

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Rich, coming from you :P

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Lets not turn this nice peaceful thread into anything else other than that, shall we?

I'm sure whatever happened to you in zone was deserved...



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Erm, who's said anything out of hand? If you have a problem with something I've said then let me know, with a quote, and I'm happy to discuss it in an open and on topic manner.

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noobcake

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O M F G CAKE!!!!!! GIEF NOW!! FFFFFFFFSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!

I think the core point of the post and the topic raised is "buff" toons that sit outside of any participation of the zone activity in security of the base area where they cannot be reached at all by the opposition, using Recall friend to reapply buffs or extract other characters from defeat. And I think IMO "participation" is the key issue.

First let's reiterate, no-one sensible has a problem with tp foe or re-call friend being used in PvP at all.
Personally, all due credit and respect to someone who's able to move around the zone, find some suitable areas in the battle area of the zone and use either of them well. All's fair etc etc, tip of the hat .

I don't have any problem with any character being extracted to safety either... so long as the character doing so is actually equally engaged in the zone and participating just like everyone else.

What people generally aren't enthralled about is hiding a character in base where it won't participate with the rest of the zone and simply "rescues" another character or re-deploys buffs.
No-one's interested if it's a "skillful" or "strategic" thing to do. Most claims will fall on deaf ears. The simple fact is the character isn't participating.

People get frustrated by being beat, but when beaten by a good player, with a great, well thought out build played well, moving around the zone well, whether it's supporting colleagues or targettting or making kills and stuff, personally, even if a bit ticked off I think to myself "Ok, they got me, the gits but there's things I can see that show that's a good player/good toon... now I want to try take them down!" and I feel more motivated to go back and try again.

When beaten by a toon that's contstantly teleported to it's based and rebuffed, then I just find it yawn inducing. Nothing has proven to me that the fight was engaging, challenging or demanding. The other players just went the route of stacking the numbers even further with zero risk and don't really care about participation, spirit or challenge. I don't care about their toon, I have no opinion about their ability, they've done nothing to make any lasting impression other than make me think about other stuff that isn't PvP. The battle with them doesn't engage me, I don't find any merit in it, so what happens is I just start thinking of other fun stuff to do so ultimately am another player leaving a PvP zone.

People like to play against other people that are engaging the zone and participating in it.

My experience in Defiant RV makes me think that the general desire of people going there, both or either side, is simply participation. Many times one side or another has been outnumbered or outmatched yet still the battles go on with people generally happy to keep throwing themselves at it.

Like I said I don't have any problem with recall friend etc used anywhere in the open "battlefield".

I don't see really why there would be any issue with tp supression put into the very interior parts of the base. The safe border areas beyond the exits and up to the drones
could remain as they are. I don't expect this would alleviate droning, but there's a few coutner things that can be done for tp foe, or not. The key thing being tho, that's pretty much down to the opposing players choice. There's no counter choice or tactical action you can take to currently prevent the hidden non-participating buff bot toon, other than, I guess, log in a character on the same side and get in confused... but then for some reason that seems to get cries of "exploit" (I haven't done this TBH, but it really baffles me how one thing is deemed any better than the other over this issue).

Ultimately what I don't understand is if there are good players that can play a support class in the zone and in the areas of battle, moving around and making a big impact, why do others need to have their support toon tucked away out of danger .

And also, when there's so much difficuly finding active PvP to participate in, it really baffles me why then anyone would then park a non participating toon, bunkered up and advocate the very problem with the zones of non participation. Why on Earth would you not welcome and engage in and participate in some active zone PvP when you find it ?

I guess if you're a big fan of the tucked in bed, fragile tp'er then there's not much argument can be said against it. However I think such play will just see people leave the zone in fits of yawns, so ultimately such people can give them selves a big pat on the back (as no one else will be around to do it... well, maybe your buffbot can ) for emptying a PvP zone and having no PvP to take part in. No PvP fo u!

Edit: I hit *reply* to TGs post, as don't realy know what's going with some of the other stuff. As far as I remember before my waffling, so TG, my arguements aren't directed to you, just my thoughts on how this stuff plays out in zones and what effects it can perhaps causes on zone activity.

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I disagree i think that Tp Foe is a PvP power, always has been...

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Here is some extra food for thought

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this guy has taken to logging onto his Rad/Cold Corrupter and using TP Foe + Stun to get me as much debt as possible.

This has not been an isolated incident and I can not enjoy pvp in Sirens without this guy hounding me.

Is there anything that can be done to stop this?

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Sounds familiar?

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Funny how ppls view points change when they are the one doing such acts isnt it

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Funny how ppls view points change when they are the one doing such acts isnt it

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All's fair in love and war till it happens to me.

claps Mighty

He has put across what I was getting at but in a far better manor than I did

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I disagree i think that Tp Foe is a PvP power, always has been...

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Here is some extra food for thought

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this guy has taken to logging onto his Rad/Cold Corrupter and using TP Foe + Stun to get me as much debt as possible.

This has not been an isolated incident and I can not enjoy pvp in Sirens without this guy hounding me.

Is there anything that can be done to stop this?

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Sounds familiar?

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How come I always get dragged into these things?!?!?!

I know, I know....I'm a legend and you all worship me.

fyi droning is a bannable offence and if you're feeling like an [censored], petition it every time.

i know because i have a 72 hour ban under my belt for it

I need to start frequenting SC again. I haven't been there in ages.

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I disagree i think that Tp Foe is a PvP power, always has been...

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Here is some extra food for thought

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this guy has taken to logging onto his Rad/Cold Corrupter and using TP Foe + Stun to get me as much debt as possible.

This has not been an isolated incident and I can not enjoy pvp in Sirens without this guy hounding me.

Is there anything that can be done to stop this?

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Sounds familiar?

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How come I always get dragged into these things?!?!?!

I know, I know....I'm a legend and you all worship me.

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hey sweet chilli whos picture is that in your avatar

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fyi droning is a bannable offence and if you're feeling like an [censored], petition it every time.

i know because i have a 72 hour ban under my belt for it

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Ah there is a god

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fyi droning is a bannable offence and if you're feeling like an [censored], petition it every time. i know because i have a 72 hour ban under my belt for it

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yeah i even linked the GM to the post Bridger made aaaaaaaaages ago saying "TPing is fine in pvp" and he basically replied saying "no that's not actually true you're still banned"