I can see your body parts. Tee-hee.
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Anann,
Posted on: 2006-12-15 14:00 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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If I run into a semi naked female toon with a hook for a hand, robot legs and an exposed brain I sigh and move on.
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Actually, I'd have a check for a bio. If there is one there and it's well written, I'd probably appreciate it more, than if they had no background whatsoever.
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All my toons are female and all of them have sexy outfits. Nekkid, none of them. Showing a lot of skin, a few.
Super heroines are sexy, busty women in skimpy outfits. Wonder Woman, Catwoman, Electra, Power Girl, etc.
That's what I use as inspiration when I make a cossie.
My main toon Blowout has cossies that is both very skimpy and dead sexy but she is also a bit of ironical statement on just sexy brickhouses for heroines. She is a wanna be model who use her super powers to further her modeling career. Her Bio ends with a quote from her that say: "After all it's only our masks we shouldn't take off, right." 
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However, in the case of tech-based non-powersuited types, and the natural origin girls, it doesn't actually make much sense. Especially not for the Naturals... I mean, take a look at RL female elite soldiers and elite sportswomen - due to their intense training-regimen and restrictive diets, they've hardly got one ounce of fat on their bodies - and since that's basically what boobs are made of, well, they don't have much in that area either. (Okay, so there are exceptions in the world of sports, like Venus Williams, but still...)
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According some documentary that I saw once, female bodybuilders actually get "enlargements" so that people will be sure that they are women since the low amount of fat and and high percentage of muscle masks the most obvious traits of ladies in general.
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Not unless they're superheroins on the side, that is. Remember Powergirl? Her boobs would get bigger issue by issue... good times.
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Actually, the first guy to draw her claimed he was going to make her chest bigger each issue until the editors noticed, but he left after only two or three issues
@Golden Girl
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Super heroines are sexy, busty women in skimpy outfits.
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Are they? Does that mean super heroes are all musclemen in spandex? Or were you just generalizing?
@Golden Girl
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Super heroines are sexy, busty women in skimpy outfits.
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Are they? Does that mean super heroes are all musclemen in spandex? Or were you just generalizing?
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According to you in the past, yes. 
I don't recall ever saying that - if it was true, then it would be a form of equality
@Golden Girl
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I don't recall ever saying that - if it was true, then it would be a form of equality
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You can have fully-clothed men and fully-clothed women in comics and in-game.
You can have spandexy half-naked men and spandexy half-naked women in comics and in-game too.
There's even been cases of fully-undressed characters of both sexes in mainstream comics. I'm not too sure about in-game, though Silver Weasel leaves little to the imagination.
It seems reasonably equal from where I'm standing.
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I don't recall ever saying that - if it was true, then it would be a form of equality
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You can have fully-clothed men and fully-clothed women in comics and in-game.
You can have spandexy half-naked men and spandexy half-naked women in comics and in-game too.
There's even been cases of fully-undressed characters of both sexes in mainstream comics. I'm not too sure about in-game, though Silver Weasel leaves little to the imagination.
It seems reasonably equal from where I'm standing.
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If it was really equal, there'd also be just as many super heroines as there are super heroes - but it's not just comics that are guilty of that - sci-fi, fantasy, action and adventure movies are also very, very male-heavy when it comes to characters
@Golden Girl
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Probably because most of the audience, a long time ago, were nerds whose only role they wanted the woman to have were sex slaves.
Not that I disagree with them.....
And a long time ago, Wonder WOman was allowed into the JSA/JLA to fulfill the heroic role of secretary
But times change, and there's no need for these kinds of films to be so male dominated anymore
@Golden Girl
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There's even been cases of fully-undressed characters of both sexes in mainstream comics. I'm not too sure about in-game, though Silver Weasel leaves little to the imagination.
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There's actually three very good reasons for Weasel wearing what he does.
1) He's a human faerie. Faeries wear practically nothing. No point.
2) Turning invisible or phase shifting is a LOT easier if you don't have much clothing. No voluminous fabrics to contend with, all part of the Kirlian aura.
3) He lived in Russia and has a self-heat spell up as standard. Siberian Winters get VERY cold.
As for the male/female divide, it's exactly the same as any other divide; just because a population is made of a certain demographic doesn't mean that any sub-set should contain the same percentages.
Even if it does, the archetypal male will want to be adored/feared due to their exploits, the female for their self.
Hence, stereotypically, Men fight crime/law, Women look stunning; No matter what their detective powers/beauty actually is. It's biological.
Don't believe me? Visit any nightclub. Superpowers, canonically, often develop just at that height of adolescence.
As that's the most often visited route; take a look at Posh/Beckham.
Posh's career is laughed at, but her fashion is taken seriously.
Beckham's fashion is laughed at, but his career is taken seriously.
To break that route takes a LOT of effort, constantly proving you're not a stereotype until it takes up more time rebelling than actually doing what you're supposed to do.
So men have to fight hard to look stunning, you mean?
Or are you saying that a woman shouldn't waste time trying to get people to see beyond her looks?
@Golden Girl
City of Heroes comics and artwork
I think the results will always be skewed because of the number of early comics with male dominance, but looking at some of the most popular comics today, though it may be a 60/40 swing in favour of men, there's still instantly recognisable, strong-charactered and well-loved female characters, that are more well-known than some male characters, such as say Rogue, Storm, Mystique from the X-Men series, or Wonder Woman, Batgirl and Catwoman from the DC Universe.
Heck, throughout the X-Men comics, the theme was developed that things like sexism and racism were thought insignificant in comparison to the prejudices against mutants, and that in the end, differences between people shouldn't matter. Things have moved on significantly since the days of women merely being the hero's wife at home baking a pie.
Sure, there's always the fact men and women in comics tend to have more athletically-toned bodies than normal people. Well, duh they're superheroes, they train constantly, and are always fighting and picking up cargo trains, or stopping skyscrapers from falling over. They're in a constant state of exercise, and as such, they're going to look more athletically toned.
And as for the fact women tend to have slightly-larger-than-average breasts, have you seen the men? They practically have muscular ones. I remember there was a site that went into how physically deformed male comic book characters were in terms of muscles, and how women actually came better off, as all they had were larger breasts, which though potentially annoying, was nothing compared to the near-crippling injuries and symptoms the males should have. I'll see if I can dig it up.
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Things have moved on significantly since the days of women merely being the hero's wife at home baking a pie.
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Heh... I remember an eppisode of the new JLA animated series, where half the JLA gets sent to an alternate dimention and encounters... a 60's comic-book version of themselves. The token female member of the group bakes cookies and fights crime - although she doesn't actually have any significant superpowers, and mostly just gets captured by the baddies so the others can rescue her heroically.
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So men have to fight hard to look stunning, you mean?
Or are you saying that a woman shouldn't waste time trying to get people to see beyond her looks?
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Actually, he said completely the opposite. Men have a harder time making themselves look attractive, whereas women can be naturally beautiful or artificially stunning. Women have more options and more choice - men can either be attractive or unattractive, but I doubt very much there's a single female on this planet who couldn't be made to look gorgeous.
In fact, we're the only species on the planet that works this way. Mammals, birds, reptiles, fish - all of the males are naturally more attractive (due to the abundance of females and their need to attract a mate). Humans work backwards.
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In fact, we're the only species on the planet that works this way. Mammals, birds, reptiles, fish - all of the males are naturally more attractive (due to the abundance of females and their need to attract a mate). Humans work backwards.
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Not true, take a look at some insects and arachnids.
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In fact, we're the only species on the planet that works this way. Mammals, birds, reptiles, fish - all of the males are naturally more attractive (due to the abundance of females and their need to attract a mate). Humans work backwards.
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Not true, take a look at some insects and arachnids.
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Uh...
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Mammals, birds, reptiles, fish
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I doubt very much there's a single female on this planet who couldn't be made to look gorgeous.
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But that shouldn't be our defining trait, or what we're judged on
@Golden Girl
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In fact, we're the only species on the planet that works this way. Mammals, birds, reptiles, fish - all of the males are naturally more attractive (due to the abundance of females and their need to attract a mate). Humans work backwards.
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Not true, take a look at some insects and arachnids.
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Can we compare ourselves to creatures that have only got four limbs please, because anything more than that is just creepy.
"Idealism is such a wonderful thing. All you really need is someone rational to put it to proper use." - Kerr Avon
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I doubt very much there's a single female on this planet who couldn't be made to look gorgeous.
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But that shouldn't be our defining trait, or what we're judged on
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I'll bite. Why not?
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I doubt very much there's a single female on this planet who couldn't be made to look gorgeous.
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But that shouldn't be our defining trait, or what we're judged on
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I'll bite. Why not?
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Promises, promises!
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Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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I doubt very much there's a single female on this planet who couldn't be made to look gorgeous.
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But that shouldn't be our defining trait, or what we're judged on
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I'll bite. Why not?
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Because some of you are as butt-ugly as us guys are! 
(Not saying who, I have SOME survival instinct...)
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In fact, we're the only species on the planet that works this way. Mammals, birds, reptiles, fish - all of the males are naturally more attractive (due to the abundance of females and their need to attract a mate). Humans work backwards.
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Not true, take a look at some insects and arachnids.
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Can we compare ourselves to creatures that have only got four limbs please, because anything more than that is just creepy.
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Your avatar has a tail.
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I doubt very much there's a single female on this planet who couldn't be made to look gorgeous.
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But that shouldn't be our defining trait, or what we're judged on
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Shouldn't be? What happens if a female (or male, for that matter) chooses that to be their defining trait - are you wanting to remove their ability to choose?
Regardless of what we may think of someone who simply wants to look beautiful, to the exclusion of all else, surely it would be worse if we remove the freedom of choice from them?
"Idealism is such a wonderful thing. All you really need is someone rational to put it to proper use." - Kerr Avon
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Remember Powergirl? Her boobs would get bigger issue by issue... good times.
Thus their scientific transformation processes and Siren-model battlesuits inevitably has a 'design choice' involving a nice chest-size. Magic? Well, concidering that pretty much the same rules apply to wizards as to scientists, it's no surprise that someone came up with a breast-enlargement spell ages ago. If a girl receives her power from some male wizard, he's likely to mix it in without saying so - and even if her power is personal, well, girls DO like to look good, as is proven by the number of women who undergo expensive and painful surgical breast-enlargements... given the opportunity to get a nice rack with a simple spell, many would take it.
(Okay, so there are exceptions in the world of sports, like Venus Williams, but still...)
Myself and Terra amused ourselves watching the young (sort of 7-10 year old) boys at the Memorabillia event in Birmingham making their heroes, they all looked a bit like that, I seem to recall us discussing how dissapointed they were going to be when they finally got through puberty and realised that real women just don't come in those kind of shapes.
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Not unless they're superheroins on the side, that is.
Actually, for most origins, large mammaries makes logical sense... I mean, Mutation is essentially rapid evolution within a single generation, and it's a proven fact that women with a large rack have an advantage in virtually any line of work - so naturally, the X-gene would ensure that the girl got the best 'advantages' available. In the case of Science origin and the Tech-based ones that uses powersuits, it can be simply explained with the fact that most scientists are men - and lonely, repressed men at that.
However, in the case of tech-based non-powersuited types, and the natural origin girls, it doesn't actually make much sense. Especially not for the Naturals... I mean, take a look at RL female elite soldiers and elite sportswomen - due to their intense training-regimen and restrictive diets, they've hardly got one ounce of fat on their bodies - and since that's basically what boobs are made of, well, they don't have much in that area either.