There ARE PvP Arena events organised on Defiant
I normally run them every fortnight and advertise it on the Main board and on my SGs board and all my SGs Coalitions boards too. Turnout is somewhat variable but if you want Arena PvP then turn up Galaxy City Arena 22nd April 2.30pm
The only rules I have are "no travel powers", "limit stealth" for the tournament and "no Kheldians" (lvl 50s are welcome though)
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The only rules I have are "no travel powers" , "limit stealth" for the tournament and "no Kheldians" (lvl 50s are welcome though)
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I've seen your post and think it's exellent you're organising it but...meh....no travelpowers, thats why I've never showed up....sorry
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wont happen tg, tonight showed that the atmosphere plus useage of certain powers etc would make it a total gank fest of lag + debt + very annoyed people, nice idea, just wont happen :P
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wont happen tg, tonight showed that the atmosphere plus useage of certain powers etc would make it a total gank fest of lag + debt + very annoyed people, nice idea, just wont happen :P
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Just because there is one idiot on the villains side like the one tonight plus one on the hero side that is well known for a long time doesnt mean A WHOLE COMMUNITY will sit back and just let people like this trash the place. So hearing it wont happen is not really on my list and it wont be just because of 2 tools. i am gonna go forward with trying to organise this and we ll just work together trying to show to some new people good fun.
Whatcha trying to do?
If you want, I offer myself as the 'npc appeaser' in case they look at y'all funny.
Please keep rez on perma.
I really dont like arena, its slow and hard to organise, maps are random and annoying.
Sirens is usually pretty busy at mnost times these days, sadly though a certain gimp does come in and start whinging and ruining the ambiance. Fortunately I am getting most to ignore him and we can go back to normal and waste him whenever he comes anywhere near.
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Well anyway, just came out of BB after reaching 15 on my 1st char on Defiant and had a very nice time. Friendly banter between villains and heroes and apart from 3 bars of debt all was good 
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Looking forward to SC, tomorrow maybe 
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The only rules I have are "no travel powers", "limit stealth" for the tournament and "no Kheldians" (lvl 50s are welcome though)
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No Kheldians unless they've reached level 50?
*runs and hides*
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Ah okay maybe I wasn't making myself clear, yes i am a PvPer, I am one of those few who try and use arena when it is open but I am interested in trying to make the arena more popular and have more organised battles, Why in your people do defiant not use the arena? I had organized a few free for all battles long time ago, aswell as a couple of teammatches, but then again there is always a lack on interest in the arena why is that?
As for PvP zones, its a mixture, sometimes it can be real busy others it can't, yes it normally if TG is there it is busy, but if someone calls heroes and villains wanted in sirens for battle, most of the time no one is there to answer, along with anyone want a team battle in the arena? no one replies, look at PDs no one wants to fight them, they even offer to mix up players just form team battle still no one replies. Why is this? I just would like to know each of your opinions.
PvP is not dead, its seriously lacking and from what i've heard union is much more active.
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The answer is simple. Alot of people dont like it. And for those who do we have to consider preperation such and things. People like a good time where they can get everyone together and also I know some like to practise. But back on point. PvP isnt that popular because its not appealing. Sad to say for yourself who really likes it.
Myself I can take it or leave it. But I am not online during the day very often unlike the first months when I ws always on. I could perhaps beeen coaxed into it then. But as things are I miss alot of peak PvPing time. Maybe others are in the sme situation as me or similar at least?
im thinkin that if we get a lvl50 PVP area and arena,we will have more peeps that want to play PVP.
why?! imho its not so much fun to have a lvl50 build and then not be able to play with it in PVP,cause u are being nerfed to a lower lvl... [thats how ic it]
now people have to build a toon for PVP or PVE or both, so i really think the problem is related to that.
i like PVP but wanna play it with a full build toon.
we DollarDawgs are going to form a PVP team in the future,but we are really lOOkin forward to a lvl50 PVP!
and then there is the running away...
PVP = Player versus Player?
then why is 90% always running away?!
i think this is because of peeps being overpowerd by lvl50 toons fully slotted[so its no use to enter pvp now wen u dont got a lvl50 toon]
pvp is fun wen u got a lvl50 toon and get in there,but with lower toons and lightly slotted...
its not really balanced imho like this.
i know we are all same lvl in PVP but its the slots that make the difference.
so a lvl50 PVP would be verry welcome to me!
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Problem with Arena is that you have to go to the arena to check on a terminal to see if any matches are going etc. If you don't check the boards or have arena chat on and lets face it, the majority of players dont use arena or these boards. The thing with PvP zones is well they are PvP zones and for those that don't feel like using their game time to setup matches can usually head there and get a little bit of action in once in a while.
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How about if the system would make a post to the Arena channel everytime a player lists an event..or maybe even joins an event. in theory players could do it themselves but I think it'd work better if the game did it. Players are lazy after all That way you could see the lvl-range, person setting up the event etc and the time when it was set up.. or something.
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The only rules I have are "no travel powers" , "limit stealth" for the tournament and "no Kheldians" (lvl 50s are welcome though)
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I've seen your post and think it's exellent you're organising it but...meh....no travelpowers, thats why I've never showed up....sorry
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Same here really.. My blaster only has mobility to protect him..
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im thinkin that if we get a lvl50 PVP area and arena,we will have more peeps that want to play PVP.
why?! imho its not so much fun to have a lvl50 build and then not be able to play with it in PVP,cause u are being nerfed to a lower lvl... [thats how ic it]
now people have to build a toon for PVP or PVE or both, so i really think the problem is related to that.
i like PVP but wanna play it with a full build toon.
we DollarDawgs are going to form a PVP team in the future,but we are really lOOkin forward to a lvl50 PVP!
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I guess you mean villains as heroes can already play 50s in the arena.
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and then there is the running away...
PVP = Player versus Player?
then why is 90% always running away?!
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Not every character is built for close combat.. Allowing a brute to close in on the squishy is just bad play. Its how the game is designed. Moving about and maneuvering the enviroment to your advantage is part of PVP for me. There is more to it than just standing still and cycling thru attack chains, you know. (I wish they'd make the travel powers more even though..) Sure, I don't mean everyone plays like this and I don't like running to base myself either, but I can't fault it tactically.
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i think this is because of peeps being overpowerd by lvl50 toons fully slotted[so its no use to enter pvp now wen u dont got a lvl50 toon]
pvp is fun wen u got a lvl50 toon and get in there,but with lower toons and lightly slotted...
its not really balanced imho like this.
i know we are all same lvl in PVP but its the slots that make the difference.
so a lvl50 PVP would be verry welcome to me!
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Don't generalize. My 50 tank is [censored].
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Just curious has the PvP just died on defiant
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Yes, I killed it 
Problem with Arena is that you have to go to the arena to check on a terminal to see if any matches are going etc. If you don't check the boards or have arena chat on and lets face it, the majority of players dont use arena or these boards. The thing with PvP zones is well they are PvP zones and for those that don't feel like using their game time to setup matches can usually head there and get a little bit of action in once in a while.
Futhermore you can use the /search feature to check the zones for players on your side. Now if you somehow could check the arena terminals without going there, that might be useful.
I think most casual players and pvp'er use sirens and the other zones to fulfil their pvp needs due to the easy access and no waiting or organisation needed.
Personally I usually PvP'd late nights and sometimes early mornings. For that reason Arena does not work for me as a casuel PvP'er.
TG I would not count the Dagger Boys amongst hardcore PvP'er
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And here it is again. You see as I have said lots of ties. I used to use the arena but disabled it as far back as autumn. I also remeber the night I did it and two distiguished defianters around at the time who saw me do it and announce I had had enough. And we all know why I disabled it. It was jst the other week when I spoke to someone who told me they never used it and she didnt know anyone that did anymore. She told me one or two but they stoppped due to the abuse fest.
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im thinkin that if we get a lvl50 PVP area and arena,we will have more peeps that want to play PVP.
why?! imho its not so much fun to have a lvl50 build and then not be able to play with it in PVP,cause u are being nerfed to a lower lvl... [thats how ic it]
now people have to build a toon for PVP or PVE or both, so i really think the problem is related to that.
i like PVP but wanna play it with a full build toon.
we DollarDawgs are going to form a PVP team in the future,but we are really lOOkin forward to a lvl50 PVP!
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I guess you mean villains as heroes can already play 50s in the arena.
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and then there is the running away...
PVP = Player versus Player?
then why is 90% always running away?!
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Not every character is built for close combat.. Allowing a brute to close in on the squishy is just bad play. Its how the game is designed. Moving about and maneuvering the enviroment to your advantage is part of PVP for me. There is more to it than just standing still and cycling thru attack chains, you know. (I wish they'd make the travel powers more even though..) Sure, I don't mean everyone plays like this and I don't like running to base myself either, but I can't fault it tactically.
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i think this is because of peeps being overpowerd by lvl50 toons fully slotted[so its no use to enter pvp now wen u dont got a lvl50 toon]
pvp is fun wen u got a lvl50 toon and get in there,but with lower toons and lightly slotted...
its not really balanced imho like this.
i know we are all same lvl in PVP but its the slots that make the difference.
so a lvl50 PVP would be verry welcome to me!
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Don't generalize. My 50 tank is [censored].
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dont get me wrong,i mean a LVL50 PVP area like sirens or wb.
its just that i [me <-- ]dont like the fact that we build a toon to lvl50 and cant use it in PVP area like sirens or wb.
the arena is sumtin different.
but it would be great to have a area were all full build lvl50's could hang out... and play pvp.
not only arena.
and running away is tactics...? why play pvp then? tactics are skills that u use to beat someone...
do we play pvp to fight and win a game, or do we play it only not to get beaten?[cause then its a tactic]
if a villain beats me do i get in Debt...?! 
Sometimes running away is the best way to reclaim control of a fight. A while back in Sirens I was fighting a corruptor and had just defeated him/her when a load of bots appeared around me and started tearing my remaining health to shreds. This was over on the area of the map leading down to the villain base with all the half-destroyed buildings and crevices and I was right in the corner of a broken building so I had very little room to manoeuvre with all the bots around me. I noticed Dull Pain and Build Up were about to recharge so I targetted the mastermind, super jumped away, waited 5 seconds, hit dull pain, hit follow, hit build up, landed on his head and had him on the ground before he had a chance to react. His bots would probably have defeated me if I'd stayed where I was because I couldn't reach the mastermind quickly enough with my melee attacks because of all the bots getting in the way.
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Just curious has the PvP just died on defiant
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Yes, I killed it
Problem with Arena is that you have to go to the arena to check on a terminal to see if any matches are going etc. If you don't check the boards or have arena chat on and lets face it, the majority of players dont use arena or these boards. The thing with PvP zones is well they are PvP zones and for those that don't feel like using their game time to setup matches can usually head there and get a little bit of action in once in a while.
Futhermore you can use the /search feature to check the zones for players on your side. Now if you somehow could check the arena terminals without going there, that might be useful.
I think most casual players and pvp'er use sirens and the other zones to fulfil their pvp needs due to the easy access and no waiting or organisation needed.
Personally I usually PvP'd late nights and sometimes early mornings. For that reason Arena does not work for me as a casuel PvP'er.
TG I would not count the Dagger Boys amongst hardcore PvP'er
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And here it is again. You see as I have said lots of ties. I used to use the arena but disabled it as far back as autumn. I also remeber the night I did it and two distiguished defianters around at the time who saw me do it and announce I had had enough. And we all know why I disabled it. It was jst the other week when I spoke to someone who told me they never used it and she didnt know anyone that did anymore. She told me one or two but they stoppped due to the abuse fest.
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Lode', the Arena as a facility to go play PvP in & the Arena Channel are two enitirely different entities. Arena channel problems is another subject for another thread.
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wont happen tg, tonight showed that the atmosphere plus useage of certain powers etc would make it a total gank fest of lag + debt + very annoyed people, nice idea, just wont happen :P
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Just because there is one idiot on the villains side like the one tonight plus one on the hero side that is well known for a long time doesnt mean A WHOLE COMMUNITY will sit back and just let people like this trash the place. So hearing it wont happen is not really on my list and it wont be just because of 2 tools. i am gonna go forward with trying to organise this and we ll just work together trying to show to some new people good fun.
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wasn't just one talking multiple peeps....anywho, gl with it....
Ive only had to matchs so far, this is due to never being invited to battle, i don't really know how to setup a pvp match so i just hang around till i get an invite, but if anyone every see me in the plz invite me i'm always looking to gain experience.
P.S i hate losing so go easy on me.
Hello Everclear,
Remember me?
Well I havent been playing much at all recently because I have my dissertation and exams to finish. But once they are done im going to start up the pvp nights again. I have to say that when I was last playing pvp was going downhill. Let hope we can change it come the end of may.
Hope to see you soon
Jaz
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and running away is tactics...? why play pvp then? tactics are skills that u use to beat someone...
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Movement is tactics. Just standing there and taking hits is bad tactics, especially if you're a squishy. The best way to avoid hits is to move around, or as you call it "running away" and attack when ít's best suited to you.
If we didn't move around we would be as dumb as the NPC's in this game.
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The only rules I have are "no travel powers" , "limit stealth" for the tournament and "no Kheldians" (lvl 50s are welcome though)
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I've seen your post and think it's exellent you're organising it but...meh....no travelpowers, thats why I've never showed up....sorry
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Same here really.. My blaster only has mobility to protect him..
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Same here, I always find movement is a key aspect of PvP...and putting that on even nerfs swift/speed boost etc
To clarify the rules of my event:
No Kheldians (of any level)
Level 50 characters welcome as long as they are not Kheldians (seeing as you've got to have a lvl 50 character to have a kheldian I don't think I'm restricting anybody)
In terms of why I restrict travel powers... I've been in areana events where travel powers have been used by players to "prevent losing" rather than to "aid winning" which I persoanlly don't like. Whilst there are certain temp powers that can be bought in the arena that nullify travel powers I've prefered to have a "level playing field".... it's a judgement call really. But seeing as this seems to be unpopular I'll try this weeks tournament WITH travel powers.
I'v played against the PDs when they did have travel powers on - it was painful so they're not going to get any sympathy from me.
I was just agreeing with Gandrels post that no many have arean chat on and so wont se info on PvP things. So I wasnt derailing. Whih was why I gave an example of someone who didnt even bother with arean chat at all.
Some friends and myself recently transfered to Union to make some villains and try them out in PvP aswell as checking out the PvPscene there.
Have ventured out in Sirens 3 times so far (we're only in our mid 20s atm) and found it's considerably more active than Defiants counterpart. It may have been a coincidence but I've never seen Sirens on Defiant this busy 3 nights in a row
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