Ahh. DP/regen scrapper. Deadpool ripoffs comming soon. Lol
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lol i think that kind of scrapper would be funny, although id prolly make a DP/SR and make it a vamp/demon so id be an Underworld toon 
Dual Pistol Melee and Dual Pistol Armor, interesting...
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What part of the equation "pistols = kill you from far away" dont you people understand?
Akimbo Pistols or whatever is the most out-of-place idea for a Scrapper. It's lunacy. Pistols shoot people in the head from a distance, not from up front. While it is possible it is safer to shoot from afar. And a Ranged Scrapper is lunacyx2.
No.
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Not gonna happen.
I'll lose respect for all Scrappers if they do.
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they gave CLAWS, range powers, what makes you think they wont ?
I'm pretty sure a redname somewhere said that pistols would never be a scrapper set, for one 
Moreover though, a melee set with some ranged attacks is not the same as a ranged set pretending it's a melee set.
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I'm pretty sure a redname somewhere said that pistols would never be a scrapper set, for one
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Moreover though, a melee set with some ranged attacks is not the same as a ranged set pretending it's a melee set.
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And this. Claws has 2 mere ranged attacks. I don't pick up a gun so I can beat somebody over the head with it.
A Pistols Pool would be interesting.
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What part of the equation "pistols = kill you from far away" dont you people understand?
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This is a game where a sniper rifle has a range of 150 ft. We'll be lucky if pistols can shoot as far as 10.
plenty of rednames have stated things as facts only to be proven wrong in later issues
The ranged version of pistols and a hypothetical melee version of pistols would almost certainly be different sets, requiring a whole new set of development. Considering that melee has gotten the last three new powersets, it's very likely that future love is going elsewhere.
Also, a Pistol Melee set is only slightly more logical than a Katana Blast set.
I know some people are fans of the idea, but I just don't see it happening.
The reason Pistols makes sense to me as a Scrapper primary is the secondaries available. Very infrequently do pistol heroes blast things to death. Many are very tough or very quick. Super Reflexes, Regeneration and Willpower definitely have heroic counterparts. The other secondaries are a little less solidly based, but I could see a Dark, Invulnerability or Fire Scrapper. Shield Defense is out, for sure, but that would be done normally (along the lines of Claws).
On the other hand, Blaster secondaries don't seem to support it much in most comics. Devices has strong support and mechanically the Blaster secondaries would probably work better, but I think it just fits more to have short-range dual pistols in the hands of Scrappers.
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The reason Pistols makes sense to me as a Scrapper primary is the secondaries available. Very infrequently do pistol heroes blast things to death. Many are very tough or very quick. Super Reflexes, Regeneration and Willpower definitely have heroic counterparts. The other secondaries are a little less solidly based, but I could see a Dark, Invulnerability or Fire Scrapper. Shield Defense is out, for sure, but that would be done normally (along the lines of Claws).
On the other hand, Blaster secondaries don't seem to support it much in most comics. Devices has strong support and mechanically the Blaster secondaries would probably work better, but I think it just fits more to have short-range dual pistols in the hands of Scrappers.
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THIS!
Dual Pistol/[insert secondary of choice here] scrapper fits so much better with Dual Pistol wielding comic book heroes.
I wrote up a set once with like 3 ranged attacks, the rest was melee based without a pistol whip attack (which should just be brawl).
Combat Jumping style flip, shoot at the target for knock up, was one of the attacks (can't remember what all the attacks where).
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Also, a Pistol Melee set is only slightly more logical than a Katana Blast set.
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This.
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Also, a Pistol Melee set is only slightly more logical than a Katana Blast set.
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I can see a hero doing a lot of pistol melee. I can see them dodging attacks and whipping around and spinning to get in close range for some sweet moves. I can see them meleeing down one target and then turning to shoot another target at short range before flipping and spinning to another target.
I can see this being done in another game, with a different physics engine, game mechanics, and playstyle.
Not in CoH.
You can only hit someone with a pistol so many ways... and not enough to justify using it as a melee weapon.
What's next? Just because you can use an M-16 in close quarters combat, and we have rifle but attacks and bayonet attacks, but that doesn't justify using an M-16/Assault Rifle to create a melee set.
Just because they used pistols in an unorthodox fashion in Equilibrium, it doesn't mean they should do that in this game. It's a ranged attack set, get over it.
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A Pistols Pool would be interesting.
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Power customize the weapons pool to change the shurikens into dual pistols.
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they gave CLAWS, range powers, what makes you think they wont ?
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Devs have said it's never going to happen. Blasters will get Dual Pistols, Corruptors will get Dual Pistols, Defenders will probably get Dual Pistols, Scrappers will never get Dual Pistols
I'm too lazy to find the post saying so (if it hasn't been purged) but at least one dev has outright said it's never going to happen.
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Would really, really love to see a Pistols Power Pool though (so many melee attacks in the tertiary pools, but wheres a supplementary ranged attack?)
Or even a Ranged Epic set would be awesome.
But Pistols Melee?, Gyah? No, no, no!
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Would really, really love to see a Pistols Power Pool though (so many melee attacks in the tertiary pools, but wheres a supplementary ranged attack?)
Or even a Ranged Epic set would be awesome.
But Pistols Melee?, Gyah? No, no, no!
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This. As an epic, it would be perfect. Dual weild, empty clips, that freez shot gunslingers use, and a stun shot. I know this won't happen. Oh well. Like Ludda said in Hustle N Flow, "Everybody gotta have a dream".
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People who want pistols for scrappers mostly just want status protection and durability because they want to win, not because it makes any kind of sense.
Now if we fixed tiny bayonets onto each pistol....
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No.
Never.
Not gonna happen.
I'll lose respect for all Scrappers if they do.
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The fact is though before they screwed the game up by adding Archetypes in the first place that ranged "scrapper" was the most popular type (even in bad combinations). The only reason they took it out was balance. Certain blaster pools were just ludicrous with the armory secondaries.
For them to still be deathly afraid of a ranged scrapper is irrational. They can do it and have it balanced. I'd rather them not do it with the scrapper archetype but expecting them to have the funds to make a new archetype at this point is a pipe dream.
So they give DP to blasters.....why not give scrappers Gun Kata (or whatever type of name you wish to insert ).
I mean once they put together DP attacks, converge it with MA to make an interesting melee/range AT for scrappers....most consensus feel that DP will be short ranged attacks anyway (MOAW).
It could make for an interesting powerset.
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