I think it doesn't really matter what the set is called.
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All i'm asking for is a change to the power set name for heroes. Something that is more in line with the nature of heroes. Domination is not a heroic trait. The dev's clearly saw that Empathy was not a villainous trait and instead gave them Pain. They even worked out new powers of a similar function for it. I dont want any change to the powers of the set, they are perfectly fine as is. I just think that the term "Domination" does not belong and needs to be changed to reflect a more heroic trait or at the very least changed to something more nuetral. Cold Shapeing, is the most neutral term i could think of atm. I've spoken with every other CD/* def that i've encountered in the game, and they have all agreed with me on this. Now i bring it to the official Def forums for a much wider view on Def opinions. So, what do you think ?
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Assault Rifle is too violent, change it to Multi-Purpose Rifle
Dark Blast, Dark Miasma, Dark Melee, and Dark Armor is too racist. Change it to Shadow Blast, Shadow Miasma, Shadow Melee, and Shadow Armor.
Shield defense totally is too heroic for brutes, change it to Smashboard.
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The name's been stupid since CoV launch, what makes you think they're going to un-stupid it now?
so far we have... indifference, sarcasm, and "stupid" ... i was hopeing for something a bit more constructive from the Def forum
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so far we have... indifference, sarcasm, and "stupid" ... i was hopeing for something a bit more constructive from the Def forum
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How about I add a 4th category? "waste of Dev Time"
-Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. - Albert Einstein.
-I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use. - Galileo Galilei
-When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty. - Thomas Jefferson
Silly me, I always attributed the domination to the cold not to the foe.
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so far we have... indifference, sarcasm, and "stupid" ... i was hopeing for something a bit more constructive from the Def forum
[/ QUOTE ]There is an archetype called the Dominator. The archetype has an inherent power named Domination. It has two powersets that relate to cold and ice. Neither are 'cold domination.'
This name has been stupid for years. It is not going to get fixed just now because of perceived 'heroicness,' especially because you have a narrow definition of what flavour is and isn't okay.
Splitting someone's head doesn't sound very heroic, either. Much less getting a critical on it. Or how about infecting someone with radiation or making them spontaneously combust?
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Splitting someone's head doesn't sound very heroic, either. Much less getting a critical on it. Or how about infecting someone with radiation or making them spontaneously combust?
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or setting them on fire.
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so far we have... indifference, sarcasm, and "stupid" ... i was hopeing for something a bit more constructive from the Def forum
[/ QUOTE ]There is an archetype called the Dominator. The archetype has an inherent power named Domination. It has two powersets that relate to cold and ice. Neither are 'cold domination.'
This name has been stupid for years. It is not going to get fixed just now because of perceived 'heroicness,' especially because you have a narrow definition of what flavour is and isn't okay.
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Do you feel the same way about Thermal Radiation?
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All i'm asking for is a change to the power set name for heroes. Something that is more in line with the nature of heroes. Domination is not a heroic trait. The dev's clearly saw that Empathy was not a villainous trait and instead gave them Pain. They even worked out new powers of a similar function for it. I dont want any change to the powers of the set, they are perfectly fine as is. I just think that the term "Domination" does not belong and needs to be changed to reflect a more heroic trait or at the very least changed to something more nuetral. Cold Shapeing, is the most neutral term i could think of atm. I've spoken with every other CD/* def that i've encountered in the game, and they have all agreed with me on this. Now i bring it to the official Def forums for a much wider view on Def opinions. So, what do you think ?
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Assault Rifle is too violent, change it to Multi-Purpose Rifle
Dark Blast, Dark Miasma, Dark Melee, and Dark Armor is too racist. Change it to Shadow Blast, Shadow Miasma, Shadow Melee, and Shadow Armor.
Shield defense totally is too heroic for brutes, change it to Smashboard.
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I'd roll a Shield Brute if it was really called Smashboard.
Power names dont matter.
This mindset has unfortunately had ingame consequences already. The morally neutral ability to boost other peoples powers to new heights and repair damage to them was gutted when it got proliferated to CoV because of its name - Empathy. It wasn't "evil" enough...
For this reason I get kind of ticked off with people getting hung up on the names of powersets or individual powers.
They aren't part of the fictional game world - I dont imagine a hero saying "I'll stop that bank robber using my Cold Domination"
Thats my unsarcastic, heartfelt response to your suggestion.
Also Domination simply just means control over something or someone and it would have been more confusing to call the set Cold Control. Also there is already a Cold Mastery set in the game as an epic pool, so that was out of the question as well.
Yes, i suppose Energy Manipulation is also evil because manipulating people isn't nice.
We're exerting our wills to lower the temperature and manipulate the effects that result. Just as it isn't intrinsically evil for a police officer to carry a gun, cold powers aren't inherently immoral.
Judge the wielder, not the weapon.
In any case, if we were closely to examine the logical disconnect between the notion that all of our in-game kills are arrests, and what is actually displayed on the screen, then the name of a given Defender powerset doesn't even rate mention. Far more problematic is the practice of, say -- oh I don't know -- shooting our foes with an assault rifle or a bow, throwing sharp knives at them, lighting them on fire, slicin them apart with swords, flinging visibly glowing radation at them, or any number of other amusing pursuits.
If any of that were really a concern, you should be campaigning to have the drop-as-if-dead-to-the-floor animations following a foe's defeat changed to a hand-cuff-and-read-them-their-rights animation. Might hurt gameplay just a tad, though. 
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so far we have... indifference, sarcasm, and "stupid" ... i was hopeing for something a bit more constructive from the Def forum
[/ QUOTE ]There is an archetype called the Dominator. The archetype has an inherent power named Domination. It has two powersets that relate to cold and ice. Neither are 'cold domination.'
This name has been stupid for years. It is not going to get fixed just now because of perceived 'heroicness,' especially because you have a narrow definition of what flavour is and isn't okay.
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Do you feel the same way about Thermal Radiation?
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Thermal just looks evil. Granted, both Cold Dom and Thermal were both Villain only sets. Statesman never intended powersets to cross AT's like they have. It's a lot more fun that they have, though. 
The plastic tips at the end of shoelaces are called aglets. Their true purpose is sinister.
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Power names dont matter.
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Seriously? Well I can tell you that my cold/ice is not bothered by the word domination. She is after all a dominatrix... and everyone likes her Frosty Treats
(That's her name)
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Power names dont matter.
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What Philly doesn't tell you is how he really wishes Forcefields was called Bubblegum Domination.
Truthfully, I've never seen a problem with the name.
That's like saying, Broadsword shouldn't be called Broadsword, because some of the weapon skins aren't broadswords (one's even a Katana).
It's just a name.
If you're going to complain about something, complain about that use of AT names IC. 
That's what I can't stand.
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Welcome to the world known as the Defender forums. There are some of us that try to actually make constructive comments, but most don't. More so the people that tend to poke threads first. As I said, not all of the Defender forum people are this way, just a high population that post a lot are.
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What Philly doesn't tell you is how he really wishes Forcefields was called Bubblegum Domination.
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Now THAT would be awesome... just think of all the sticky gooeyness that you could accomplish with such a powerset. It would actually be the polar opposite of FF, or at least its mirror image. It would have "bubbles" sure, but the rest of the powers?
Where FF has knockback, Bubblegum Domination would have holds and immobilizes. But it would make a better Controller primary instead.
In fact, if that existed... I might actually PLAY Controllers!
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Welcome to the world known as the Defender forums. There are some of us that try to actually make constructive comments, but most don't. More so the people that tend to poke threads first. As I said, not all of the Defender forum people are this way, just a high population that post a lot are.
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Most Defender forumites have become jaded from having to keep telling people the same basic truths over and over again. How they respond to their own Jadidity (I made up a new word!) is the separate responses that has been categorized here.
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so far we have... indifference, sarcasm, and "stupid" ... i was hopeing for something a bit more constructive from the Def forum
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you may have an unrealistic view of this forum, and perhaps of the entire internet.
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All i'm asking for is a change to the power set name for heroes. Something that is more in line with the nature of heroes. Domination is not a heroic trait. The dev's clearly saw that Empathy was not a villainous trait and instead gave them Pain. They even worked out new powers of a similar function for it. I dont want any change to the powers of the set, they are perfectly fine as is. I just think that the term "Domination" does not belong and needs to be changed to reflect a more heroic trait or at the very least changed to something more nuetral. Cold Shapeing, is the most neutral term i could think of atm. I've spoken with every other CD/* def that i've encountered in the game, and they have all agreed with me on this. Now i bring it to the official Def forums for a much wider view on Def opinions. So, what do you think ?