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Dev Diary - Signature Rogues - By Positron

alienuterus

By alienuterus,
Posted on: 2009-07-13 16:22 in Developers' Corner

 

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See there's another hole in GR...What is the faction in Praetoria that fights Tyrant?

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The Carnival of Light is one of the ones we already know about.

 

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you will not be allowed into PC tho, I feel that GR will have that limit, you can switch sides in Praetoria and Pretoria only if you made a toon prior to GR.

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City of Heroes Going Rogue will introduce a new alignment system that helps players explore the shades of gray that lie between good and evil. For the first time, hero characters can become villains and vice versa, enabling hero archetypes to cross over to the Rogue Isles™ and villain archetypes to experience Paragon City™.

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Irrelevant. There was never an official press release saying "Hey ya'll! We're doing bases!" If they had then they'd have been proper screwed had they not done it.

In this case, Going Rogue was announced with this as the primary feature and entire focus of the expansion. What you're suggesting is simply nonsensical. It doesn't make sense story-wise, it doesn't make sense from a gameplay standpoint, and it doesn't make sense from a marketing standpoint either to advertise a game with faction switching and then only allow it in one zone.

Also, as I said, and as Sadako was so kind to quote and point out, there is a direct statement of fact that you will not be limited to Praetoria. There has never been any doubt that you can switch sides and gain access to Paragon and the Rogue Isles unless you simply lack reading comprehension on a basic level. From the moment we knew about Going Rogue we knew this. I'm just fed up and irritated listening to people whine that they think it's going to be limited to Praetoria because as far as I'm concerned they're just whining to hear themselves whine.

 

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It was also a dev who strongly implied (in the European fora) that DP/Demon summoning would be in I16, and NOT in a paid expansion. Now, they seem to be IMPLYING exactly the opposite- a dangerous argument, I know, since nothing really specific has been said one way or the other.

Let's get a direct statement from a dev, please: is this the direction of the future? Everything useful/cool/desirable/asked for will be paid for, and for free we'll get....MA nerfs and...um....Vines?

Things to remember:
-Common sense ain't;
-Overkill is the only kill;
-If someone asks if you're a god, run away.

 

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Irrelevant. There was never an official press release saying "Hey ya'll! We're doing bases!" If they had then they'd have been proper screwed had they not done it.

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Above post at least 12% funnier if you read the opening sentence as Yoshimitsu from Soul Calibur II.

Regardless, I'm curious as to speculation as to the heroic contacts in Praetoria. Who do we know is still alive and rebelling against Emperor Cole in that dimension, aside from the Carnival of Light? Will the 'villainous' contacts be working at oppressing the masses for Tyrant's side, or some other group we're unaware of?

There are lots of questions left unanswered. However, on topic, Desdemona and Maelstrom are very cool, and I rather like Desdemona's name.

Doesn't mean I'm not gonna make fun of the short-shorts.

 

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It was also a dev who strongly implied (in the European fora) that DP/Demon summoning would be in I16, and NOT in a paid expansion.

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citation needed

 

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It was also a dev who strongly implied (in the European fora) that DP/Demon summoning would be in I16, and NOT in a paid expansion.

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citation needed

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On the road, can't find it right now. About...gah 2 months ago? In an interview, question was asked about possible new powersets. DP and DS were mentioned. Little further down, question was asked about possible sets *in I16*. Response was 'didn't I just mention DP and DS.'

I'll try to find it when I hit my next hotel.

Things to remember:
-Common sense ain't;
-Overkill is the only kill;
-If someone asks if you're a god, run away.

 

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KK...this is not EXACTLY what I remembered, which might be my bad, but this is from a different transcript, and is missing some stuff I seem to remember being there.

From:

http://uk.boards.cityofheroes.com/showfl...part=3&vc=1


04-28-2009 18:33:30 [Local] Sicari: Can we expect to see mor epower proliferation in new issues to come?
04-28-2009 18:33:34 [Local] Positron: Demon Summoning? Dual Pistols?

But please note that the question was asked and answered in the context of PROLIFERATION, IN FUTURE ISSUES, not in paid expansions.

As I said before- an implication, perhaps unintentional, and thus dangerous to argue from.

I'll keep trying to find the rest of the post- maybe I'm going mad.

Things to remember:
-Common sense ain't;
-Overkill is the only kill;
-If someone asks if you're a god, run away.

 

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In an interview, question was asked about possible new powersets. DP and DS were mentioned. Little further down, question was asked about possible sets *in I16*. Response was 'didn't I just mention DP and DS.'

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Ah, so you did mean the Posi interview on the EU training room that happened on the Anniversary party.

Here's the first of the two quotes, for the record:

04-28-2009 18:33:30 [Local] Sicari: Can we expect to see mor epower proliferation in new issues to come?
04-28-2009 18:33:34 [Local] Positron: Demon Summoning? Dual Pistols?

However, I can't find any record of the context for

[Local] Positron: DIdn't I hint at two new powersets above?

I think if that had been in response to a question about I16, lots more people would have picked up on it. ParagonWiki certainly hasn't associated DS and DP with Issue 16 at any stage. Most tellingly, it specified they weren't linked to any particular issue back on April 28th, within two weeks of Posi's interview on the EU Training Room.

 

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Whoops, you posted while I was still writing mine.

 

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Let's get a direct statement from a dev, please: is this the direction of the future? Everything useful/cool/desirable/asked for will be paid for, and for free we'll get....MA nerfs and...um....Vines?

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Yep

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Desdemon wears short shorts.

 

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Desdemona has a fatty....she is one thick lady...

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She became my desktop wallpaper when I learned of her existence :3

 

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She sure does have a chunk trunk back there =)


Freedom Bound!!!

 

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You know what I want A rogue that's either a stalker or a scrapper and has the claws power set,but with Clawed gloves instead of claws.

 

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we could both be wrong...Malestrom goes to Praetoria to have his change of heart while Desdemona does not...

There is not enough valid info to make any comments so I think well just leave it at that.

When positron says the exact details between side switxhing then we'll comment...all we know is that Praetoria will help...even tho desdemona from what I rememberded has nothing to do with Praetoria...she was just misguided by her father...

Now I am off to see Harry Potter 6...I will respond to your angry comments later..

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Gah! Would have loved Parable as a name

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Would have been much better, especially considering there's already a Desdemona in the game.

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"Desdemona" does suit her better than the others. And it's not like it's unprecedented in comics for two characters to use the same name, even at the same time.

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but it is in this game


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Do we know yet when Going Rogue will be released? Approximately?

 

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Do we know yet when Going Rogue will be released? Approximately?

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There will be an official announcement thread about it, stickied to the top of the list, put on the updater, plastered to the home page of the official boards, etc etc. If you see none of those things, than no, they haven't said yet.

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Let's get a direct statement from a dev, please: is this the direction of the future? Everything useful/cool/desirable/asked for will be paid for, and for free we'll get....MA nerfs and...um....Vines?

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I know I nearly punched a hole through my monitor when I found out that Power Customization was going to a part of a paid expansion, Issue 16.</sarcasm>

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I was a little disappointed that the name Maelstrom has been taken by a signature character. I wanted that for the name of my main's Praetorian counterpart. I've settled for "Praetorian Monsoon" due to lack of creativity. Just couldn't think of anything else that work work well for the Elec/Storm Corruptor version of a Storm/Elec Defender.

Though it did amuse me when I asked Back Alley Brawler who Maelstrom was a few days before Going Rogue was announced and he was all "Where did you hear that name?!?"


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