My motivation has waned

That isn't at all what I said. I'm not prepared to throw anything away. I didn't state my objective in this one I don't think but I have told other people that one of my primary goals is to get purple IOs.

Either way I enjoy my MM more than I probably ever will any toon.

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Now THAT is Ironic!

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LOL!!!!

Laugh of the week.

And yes, that was an actual, genuine 'laugh out loud'.
I think I scared a customer.

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Meh.
I don't quite get all the Anti-Nethergoat'ing in this thread. I guess I just haven't seen the right threads.
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That isn't at all what I said. I'm not prepared to throw anything away. I didn't state my objective in this one I don't think but I have told other people that one of my primary goals is to get purple IOs.

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You said right in the first post that you really really wanted to unlock VEATs. Right in that part I quoted. You strongly implied that that was your only motivation for hitting 50.

But I understand that there are other reasons to want to hit 50 - purples are another good example. Personally, I find the quest for purples to be somewhat diverting, but still DEFINITELY not worth it if playing the character is not a rollicking good time in and of itself - and I'm saying this as someone with several 50s and a number of purples, even a few full purple sets.

My advice remains the same: don't force yourself to toil away on a character you're not having fun with to try to get to the actual fun "later".

If you really can't bring yourself to try any other AT, and your MM is boring, I suggest a break from Co* altogether. Go play Duke Nukem or Civilization or Whack-A-Kitty or street hockey for a little while. Seriously, when you come back to Co* in a couple weeks you'll fall in love with your MM all over again.

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My advice remains the same: don't force yourself to toil away on a character you're not having fun with to try to get to the actual fun "later".

If you really can't bring yourself to try any other AT, and your MM is boring, I suggest a break from Co* altogether. Go play Duke Nukem or Civilization or Whack-A-Kitty or street hockey for a little while. Seriously, when you come back to Co* in a couple weeks you'll fall in love with your MM all over again.

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I never said anything that should lead you to such a presumption. I even stated in my last reply my MM is probably always going to be my favorite. I did state I really want to unlock a VEAT as my next main, IE as my next project. Nowhere did I see any implication of not having fun. As others have also stated I'm not the only one that has this occur.

I have 4 other toons, I never said anything about not wanting to try another AT.

I think you are missing the intended point of anything I said.

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The VEAT may seem like the bestest shiniest thing in the world - and they are fun - but they're not THAT fun. I mean, they're not SO MUCH BETTER than all the normal ATs that they're worth 20 hours (or whatever) of tedium to get to them.

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I must disagree: I totally think the VEATs are enough fun to warrant enduring a little discomfort/boredom to get one. In fact, I would throw away another character to get one.

Now I would never actually THROW AWAY a level 50, there's no need to play something that boring: why not play a fun villain to 50 and then play a fun VEAT after that?! But just sayin'. VEATs are just that damn good.

Keep going, Inokis. This is worth doing. Those first 23 SoA levels are very, very tough: in fact that would be a good era to AE-farm through. Serious pain lurks therein. But once you hit 24, the regular-mission fun never stops.

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Nightshade dinged 50 sometime in January. I still haven't levelled a VEAT past level 5 or so. Too much else to try

And, on topic, Nightshade, having been played daily for a month or so from level 1 onwards, stalled in the early 40s for several weeks - a combination of the missions being too easy and the levelling too slow.

Since coming back after the last free weekend I've let my altitis run riot... now no character gets more than a day at a time, and usually, at best, only a few hours. One day I will get a hero to 50...

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My two other projects I posted on in player questions last week. I also think I asked for bio suggestions on this forum for one of them within a scope of a pre existing idea I had and just couldn't iron out the details.

One is a Dark/Dark defender, the other is an Elec/Elec non melee blaster; a MU themed toon. They are both 11 currently. Once I read some of the things others had to say on the build idea, it has come along nicely. The first attempt I scrubbed and just rerolled a new one.

There are so many different types of builds to try and different zones to play content through, it really is hard to stick to just one, I'll admit that.

I do think a Crab Spider would be so fun to play especially with the bio idea I have for him.

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Keep going, Inokis. This is worth doing. Those first 23 SoA levels are very, very tough: in fact that would be a good era to AE-farm through. Serious pain lurks therein. But once you hit 24, the regular-mission fun never stops.

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1-15 wasn't bad. That little hell between 15-22 though was horrible. Like I said earlier I had to drop the difficulty down to do some of the missions in that range. It may be better or worse on different ATs but so far my MM is the only one I've taken this high. I'll probably take my Ele/Ele blaster up that high in conjuntion with my Spider once I unlock VEATs.

So far I'm glad I've played COH. I nearly wrote all NCSoft games off after what happened with Tabula Rasa. I will always wish they kept that game going.

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I never said anything that should lead you to such a presumption.

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You did, but there seem to be a lot of communication problems surrounding you lately. I'm happy to admit that I didn't understand what you meant, but what you said absolutely did lead to my conclusions. Your say your motivation has waned right in the thread title, then claim nothing you've said implies lack of fun. You really want to play a VEAT, and I suggested trying other ATs, then you turn around and say that none will ever be as good as your MM ... who you're not motivated to play. I'm getting a very schizoid message from you here.

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I think you are missing the intended point of anything I said.

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Fair enough. Good luck with ... whatever it is that you're trying to figure out. Zombra drop thread now.

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Keep going, Inokis. This is worth doing. Those first 23 SoA levels are very, very tough: in fact that would be a good era to AE-farm through. Serious pain lurks therein. But once you hit 24, the regular-mission fun never stops.

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1-15 wasn't bad. That little hell between 15-22 though was horrible. Like I said earlier I had to drop the difficulty down to do some of the missions in that range. It may be better or worse on different ATs but so far my MM is the only one I've taken this high. I'll probably take my Ele/Ele blaster up that high in conjuntion with my Spider once I unlock VEATs.

So far I'm glad I've played COH. I nearly wrote all NCSoft games off after what happened with Tabula Rasa. I will always wish they kept that game going.

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Keep going, Inokis. This is worth doing. Those first 23 SoA levels are very, very tough: in fact that would be a good era to AE-farm through. Serious pain lurks therein. But once you hit 24, the regular-mission fun never stops.

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1-15 wasn't bad. That little hell between 15-22 though was horrible. Like I said earlier I had to drop the difficulty down to do some of the missions in that range. It may be better or worse on different ATs but so far my MM is the only one I've taken this high. I'll probably take my Ele/Ele blaster up that high in conjuntion with my Spider once I unlock VEATs.

So far I'm glad I've played COH. I nearly wrote all NCSoft games off after what happened with Tabula Rasa. I will always wish they kept that game going.

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Yes I was referring to 1-23 as a SoA. It is so bad because of needing to get various pools in place, which mean one must defer powers one desperately needs so that one won't be on a SF 6 months down the road and exemped down out of Stamina, for instance.

This is painful on any pre-20 alternate, but is at least twice as bad on a SoA because as lowbies, they really are weak.

As far as MMs, I played one to 22 once and then he sadly got deleted. Just waaaaaaaay too much babysitting for my taste. If the pet AI were smarter I would consider another one, but right now I have no inclination to experiment with the AT again.

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My characters all stall around the low-40s. That's because they have all their core powers and enough slotting that they feel pretty much "complete". In the beginning I was a bit concerned, but now I realize that's how it is for me. So when the feeling come around, I put the character on semi-retirement for half a year or so. I still log them in to work the Market and, now, shift them for Day Jobs.

The downtime is also good to let me reflect on their builds without actually thinking about their builds. Kind of like taking a step back. Then after several months, I'll suddenly get the urge to do a respec. I don't use a build planner, so I'll spend a couple of weeks camped out at the Market with pencil and paper. I plan my new builds based on what I can afford and what looks to be purchasable in a reasonable amount of time. I'll lay out my low bids for what I want and wait to see what I can pick up over the next couple of months. After I do the respec into my new build, I'll feel invigorated. I'll follow up by doing several TF/SFs to test and play with the new build which can bump me up to 50 fairly quickly.

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Teams are the number one killer of soloists.

Funny, I skipped Stamina on teh Wolf portion of the spider because I knew I could respec into it just four levels after it was available. And I wouldn't have to bother with a Trial to do it. It wasn't worth it in my mind to gimp my Wolf build for four levels of Stamina.

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It happens.
Not always at the same level range, depending on many factors.
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Yep, for me its 42-44 range. I have... 4 parked there now as I work other characters. I eventually will get back to them, I have all the others that languished there.

AT doesn't matter. Red or blue doesn't matter. Its an odd phenomenon.

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Thanks for the clarification and the warning on the early levels. I just assumed it was the same for all toons regardless just some moreso than others. I did indeed misread the SOA part.

Another reason for wanting to hit 50 I neglected to mention was in order to respec. I've been trying to decide whether to spec into Leadership or just get the two fear powers in presence. I would be more interested in Power Boost if it wasn't such a short duration on such a long recharge.

Eventually I'd like to unlock the Hero ATs as well like you were commenting Chyll red or blue doesn't matter, but I'd like them all unlocked at some point.

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What trudge to 50?

I turned off exp at 47 on one character and 48 on another, and dithered for weeks over IO sets and final powers, then turned on exp and in a few nights of idle soloing and a couple of random PUG invites, BOOM, went to 50 on each one. The exp piles up relentlessly if you're doing anything that earns exp, and before you can say, "I was hoping my friend would log on to see me hit 50," it's over. Leveling -- even the longest levels in the game, the last few -- is embarassingly fast in this game. Without powerleveling, without AE, without large teams, without un-sidekicking to get the bigger mission bonus, without day job bonuses, without even trying, I've gone from 45 to 50 before my IO recipe bids filled. I got 40% of the way from 49 to 50 in one evening of a few solo, heroic missions, some time spent eating dinner, and one small team. That's lazy, no-account leveling, and look at how fast 49 flew by.

I'm constantly baffled by this complaint.

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Just the sitting down for two nights to finish it off. Yes in comparison it is easy. I just have been lacking the motivation to do it and was curious if others had a similar experience.

I wasn't really complaining. It was more an behavioral observation on my part across different mmos and wanted a comparison of others.

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You're right it is. I can still be polite and ask though.

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How is asking someone to stay out of a thread on a public forum "polite"?

It's like asking someone you don't like to leave the park. It's not your park, you don't make the rules.

It is more a measure of deluded self importance than politeness.

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Now that is funny, Its amazing how even the most reasonable of statements can be hillarious if the right person utters them.

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If you are tired at 47, it might be time to start buying all your final IO sets. I set aside a bin in the sg base for that load it up with io sets and then work on filling it. Usually going from an SO build to an IO build is enough to keep me really interested.

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My Corruptor languished at 44 for several months before I got back to it and hit 50. Mostly because I seemed extraordinarily powerful up until 40 and then everything started eating me for breakfast. And I don't play him at 50 like I stil occasionally play my FF Defender.

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Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
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It's basic human psychology. The further was are away from a goal/reward the greater the anticipation of it. The closer you get to it the anticipation goes down. Toss in getting burned on playing a single character exclusively for long periods of time. E voila, exactly the situation you describe.

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I don't even have a "main". I didn't understand what people meant when I first started playing and people would say "this is my main". With all the great choices for power combinations and costumes, I can't imagine sticking with just one, or even primarily one, character from 1-50. I'm all over the map. I have characters from level 5-50 and everywhere in between, so I've always got a character to suit whatever mood I'm in.

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Exactly the same here. And since I exemplar so much (last night: Positron TF), I build my characters to be exemplared. That way I can play the character/AT/power combo I want, and not worry about it.

And I just have to highlight the whole main thing again. The closest thing I even have to a main is my badger. I have... choices.

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I tend to lose motivation at level 49. Level 50: Three more enhancement slots. Whoo, I guess?

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