Ok so now we all need to colaborate and figure out away to get around these stupid timers, which zones to use, ATs to use, etc...
Now my plan was to create a Fire/FF controller and a regeneration scrapper with revive and slot revive with as many recharges as possible. Then time it so he will die every 5 mins and have revive ready to go.
I think with his regeneration rate he should be able to to live for around 5 mins but I definitely need people's help. Any ideas?
Virtue: @Santorican
Dark/Shield Build Thread
I think I've heard mention of Arena organized cooalitions taking turns killing each other (but I'm not sure if the arena actually drops or not). Also someone previously mentioned that you could just login a new toon instead of waiting for the 5 min mark. This would require two accounts preferably with multiple 50s to choose from (I think)...
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I think I've heard mention of Arena organized cooalitions taking turns killing each other (but I'm not sure if the arena actually drops or not). Also someone previously mentioned that you could just login a new toon instead of waiting for the 5 min mark. This would require two accounts preferably with multiple 50s to choose from (I think)...
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Yuck, logging in a new toon for a ~1 in 100 chance of getting a drop.
If you have a nice rig and a solid connection I guess you could log all your toons in one spot of a pvp zone and do this, but I don't see this being very viable for arena.
With the log out timer, the load times and the PvP ready timer you should only need one level 50 on one account with five or six levels 50s on the other.
1 account stays in while you cycle through the others. As Frost said however, loading a new toon every 45 seconds for a 1 in 100 chance is yuck
That's why I think specific builds would be the best solution. It seems like it would be the best way to get around this new timer.
Virtue: @Santorican
Dark/Shield Build Thread
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That's why I think specific builds would be the best solution. It seems like it would be the best way to get around this new timer.
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That's why I think specific builds would be the best solution. It seems like it would be the best way to get around this new timer.
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I count 4 scrapper secondaries with self-rez. They're all on a 300s (5 minute!) timer by default. This should make it spectacularly easy to time the rep timer. Sure it's still going to take 300s per chance rather than 30s, but for a 1bil inf PO, it might be worth it to some.
BTW, I would suggest leveling the scrapper like normal and then setting up a second build with no enhancements and no auto-powers so he's nice and squishy.
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That's why I think specific builds would be the best solution. It seems like it would be the best way to get around this new timer.
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I count 4 scrapper secondaries with self-rez. They're all on a 300s (5 minute!) timer by default. This should make it spectacularly easy to time the rep timer. Sure it's still going to take 300s per chance rather than 30s, but for a 1bil inf PO, it might be worth it to some.
BTW, I would suggest leveling the scrapper like normal and then setting up a second build with no enhancements and no auto-powers so he's nice and squishy.
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Bwahahahah ... squishy.
I'd say these IOs are the ones to hunt now that it appears i16 *may* allow farmers to solo missions spawning 8 man team sized critter populations thus cuasing an eventual drop in purple IO prices....
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I used my fire/kin as the beatdown dummy and my spine/dark scrap as the killer. With FA and Death Shroud running, I was able to consistently take down my f/k in 5:05 to 5:15 minutes in the arena (due to the periodic misses).
My method was to set up a 30 min battle royale cage match. fully attack the f/k on startup as quickly as possible then let the 5 minute kill cycles run.
I ran about 7 of these last night and another 3 this morning.
No PvP IO drops. 
Bad luck I suppose, but I still haven't heard from anyone that actually had a PvP IO drop in the arena. several report drops in zone PvP, but not in the arena...
I did receive inf, and I think I got one salvage drop but may be mistaken on that.
We don' need no stinkin' signatures!
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I used my fire/kin as the beatdown dummy and my spine/dark scrap as the killer. With FA and Death Shroud running, I was able to consistently take down my f/k in 5:05 to 5:15 minutes in the arena (due to the periodic misses).
My method was to set up a 30 min battle royale cage match. fully attack the f/k on startup as quickly as possible then let the 5 minute kill cycles run.
I ran about 7 of these last night and another 3 this morning.
No PvP IO drops.
Bad luck I suppose, but I still haven't heard from anyone that actually had a PvP IO drop in the arena. several report drops in zone PvP, but not in the arena...
I did receive inf, and I think I got one salvage drop but may be mistaken on that.
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I was getting one drop per 2 matches or so before, when I killed in ~30s. With a 300s timer, you'd expect it to take 10x as long, so 10-20 matches. If you get to 30 and no drops, I'd get worried.
Actually, the fact that I was willing to set this up and watch the painfully slow action for 3.5 hours straight already worries me.
We don' need no stinkin' signatures!
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Actually, the fact that I was willing to set this up and watch the painfully slow action for 3.5 hours straight already worries me.
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The whole point of doing it in the arena is that you don't have to watch. Duh.
I know. A lame attempt at humor. Appears my success rate at that is in line with my PvP IO drops in arena...
We don' need no stinkin' signatures!
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I know. A lame attempt at humor. Appears my success rate at that is in line with my PvP IO drops in arena...
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You got a smile, what else do you want? Sheesh!! Now get back to farming, Farmer McFarmenstein!!
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Poopy, if you miss this, i want you to get glasses
THEY AREN'T TRYING TO FIX PVP
They made changes in I13-15 to make the pvp for carebears, now they have to GET these carebears to TRY the new pvp, now the carebears will hate it and go away, and yes prolly farm pvp ios, but who really cares?
THis is the same [censored] as pvp badge
"ZOMG THEY KNAT FRAM TEH PVP BADJE TEHY MUST EARN IT!!!"
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I always found this argument funny. especially in a game like this or world of warcraft. why?
ALL PVP IN COH IS CAREBEAR.
HARDCORE PVP INVOLVES ACTUAL PENALTIES TO YOU WHEN YOU DIE, SOMETHING COH PVP HAS ALWAYS LACKED.
If you want harcore pvp? Play EvE or Ultima online or something.
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Been there, tried it, prefered the speed that was CoX, but, since thats gone, i'm just burnin time till Aion comes out
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That wasnt even my point, but okay.
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Arc ID 58363!
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That's why I think specific builds would be the best solution. It seems like it would be the best way to get around this new timer.
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I count 4 scrapper secondaries with self-rez. They're all on a 300s (5 minute!) timer by default. This should make it spectacularly easy to time the rep timer. Sure it's still going to take 300s per chance rather than 30s, but for a 1bil inf PO, it might be worth it to some.
BTW, I would suggest leveling the scrapper like normal and then setting up a second build with no enhancements and no auto-powers so he's nice and squishy.
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If you are going for squishy, take any blaster you have that doesn't have a second build. Fill in its second build with whatever you want just take the fire APP and take rise of the phoenix.
The blaster will be squishier than the scrapper no matter what and you can actually lay out an interesting second build for the blaster.
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Now get back to farming, Farmer McFarmenstein!!
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I wonder if I can get that name...
total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
Had a friend get a PO drop last night in the Arena while we were testing something. They are dropping in the Arena.
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RIP PX, GMW, and the game that used to be fun.
Still playing for reasons unknown.
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Had a friend get a PO drop last night in the Arena while we were testing something. They are dropping in the Arena.
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Edit: I forgot to ask. Where can I SEE the rep timer?
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There is no efficent way to get around the timer.
PVP IO Arena farming was nerfed so hard that I personally believe most people won't even bother anymore.
And that's a shame. There's great items to be had, but the Devs really made them almost impossible to aquire.
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Where can I SEE the rep timer?
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Scroll back, it was answered.
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Had a friend get a PO drop last night in the Arena while we were testing something. They are dropping in the Arena.
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I thought pvp drops were now rep based? I thought the arena didn't have rep?
Virtue: @Santorican
Dark/Shield Build Thread
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Scroll back, it was answered.
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However, I DID find this from a while back by doing a google search of all things ...
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2.12 PVP Reputation
If you defeat a player while soloing, you will gain 1 point of Reputation (rep) if your defeated opponent is within a 100 yard range. (Messages informing you of this sometimes are omitted due to a bug.) When on a team, this rep is split evenly among all team members within a 100 yard range. If the foe has 15 points or more higher rep than you, you will get an individual bounty of up to 5 points bonus rep. (This is split among teammates. In an informal test, a Hero with approximately 90 rep on a team of two defeated a Villain with 195 rep. The Hero received .50 base rep, and a bounty of 2.50 rep.)
To view another character's rep, right click, Info, then select the PvP tab. For yourself, click Menu, Personal Info, PvP tab.
If you defeat someone in PVP and gain the rep from it, or they by defeating you, you cannot gain any rep for defeating that character again until after a 10 minute period. In theory, a list of such enemies appears on your Personal Info PVP tab. Currently, the defeat list only includes those who defeat you. If you defeat one of these again, or they defeat you, the "no rep" timer starts again. So you could defeat someone every 5 minutes indefinitely and only receive the rep for the first kill.
Rep has no ingame effect apart from two badges - Forward Observer (100 rep) and Disruptor (400 rep). (Disruptor, tragically, was one of many buggy PVP-related badges, and some who have it have never attained 400 rep.)
Rep gradually falls over time. The decay rate is .1 rep per hour. This is the only way you can lose rep.
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Poopy, if you miss this, i want you to get glasses
THEY AREN'T TRYING TO FIX PVP
They made changes in I13-15 to make the pvp for carebears, now they have to GET these carebears to TRY the new pvp, now the carebears will hate it and go away, and yes prolly farm pvp ios, but who really cares?
THis is the same [censored] as pvp badge
"ZOMG THEY KNAT FRAM TEH PVP BADJE TEHY MUST EARN IT!!!"
/e facepalm
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I always found this argument funny. especially in a game like this or world of warcraft. why?
ALL PVP IN COH IS CAREBEAR.
HARDCORE PVP INVOLVES ACTUAL PENALTIES TO YOU WHEN YOU DIE, SOMETHING COH PVP HAS ALWAYS LACKED.
If you want harcore pvp? Play EvE or Ultima online or something.
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Been there, tried it, prefered the speed that was CoX, but, since thats gone, i'm just burnin time till Aion comes out