AE has caused a resurgence of the word "Healer"


Airhammer

 

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Im sorry when i see teams looking for a healer like that it just says to me..

Realy bad team needs someone to make up for our stupidity...


The hard things I can do--- The impossible just take a little bit longer.

If numbers are so much more important than a teammate who is fun to play with, forget about the game altogether and go play with a calculator instead. -Claws and Effect-

 

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AE has created a new generation of noob,

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I'll sort them out for you dont you worry

*gets me noob zapper* Lock and load!


 

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Hilariously, in the new bubble farms, heals are completely useless.

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Tanks are pretty worthless too, as defense isn't required.
It's really sad to see that level 50 Scrapper or Tank that doesn't even use their multitude of toggles.
It's... almost depressing, actually. But Fire/Kins found a new niche, haha


 

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AE has created a new generation of noob,

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I'll sort them out for you dont you worry

*gets me noob zapper* Lock and load!

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About time! Keep up the good work!


50s: Bla- Arch/Mental Cont- Mind/FF, Earth/Cold, Ill/Therm, Earth/Rad Dominator- Plant/Psi, Elec/Earth Corr- Fire/Storm, Arch/Sonic, Rad/Kin, Beam/Sonic, Psi/Time Stalker- Elec/SR Def- Storm/Dark, Emp/Psi, Dark/Elec, FF/Arch, TA/Ice, TA/Elec, Kin/AR, Cold/DP, Traps/Psi Scrap- Fire/Shield Tanker- Dark/Mace, Ice/Kin Brute- Claws/WP, SS/Energy, BS/Elec

 

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Ugh, I have a second build on my Emp/Psi that is dedicated to mostly the Empathy set. So I just stand there in the Ae building and I get a tell like in 1 minute lol. The team starts and the tank gets out of control and pulls to much aggro on that stupid civilian AE mish.

So to make a long story short....Vengeance couldn't Recharge fast enough haha honestly i might need to work on the day job accolades so i can get an extra rez!

I would imagine if I grabbed my and a friend of mine grabbed his widow and just set vengeance on auto hehe....one would be set!



 

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I made an Empathy/Dark on Freedom once. It was the only character I ever deleted out of pure frustration with the community. Seriously, I have more than fs#@ing Healing Aura.


 

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Hilariously, in the new bubble farms, heals are completely useless.

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Tanks are pretty worthless too, as defense isn't required.
It's really sad to see that level 50 Scrapper or Tank that doesn't even use their multitude of toggles.
It's... almost depressing, actually. But Fire/Kins found a new niche, haha

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Bubble farms truly are a sign the game is playing hopscotch over the shark.


 

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Hilariously, in the new bubble farms, heals are completely useless.

[/ QUOTE ]I know!
Tanks are pretty worthless too, as defense isn't required.
It's really sad to see that level 50 Scrapper or Tank that doesn't even use their multitude of toggles.
It's... almost depressing, actually. But Fire/Kins found a new niche, haha

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Bubble farms truly are a sign the game is playing hopscotch over the shark.

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I hate it when games simply jump the shark. Hopscotching is so much more fun!


50s: Bla- Arch/Mental Cont- Mind/FF, Earth/Cold, Ill/Therm, Earth/Rad Dominator- Plant/Psi, Elec/Earth Corr- Fire/Storm, Arch/Sonic, Rad/Kin, Beam/Sonic, Psi/Time Stalker- Elec/SR Def- Storm/Dark, Emp/Psi, Dark/Elec, FF/Arch, TA/Ice, TA/Elec, Kin/AR, Cold/DP, Traps/Psi Scrap- Fire/Shield Tanker- Dark/Mace, Ice/Kin Brute- Claws/WP, SS/Energy, BS/Elec

 

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Ok I almost lost it two days ago..

I join a team with my Rad/Sonic and they are doing the typical level 54 boss run but someone I had teamed with before asked me to help out so I did.

I jump on the team and they already have 4 down. I drop my RI, EF and hit Lingering Radiation to debuff the mobs. Then I use Howl to amp up the -res and start blasting away.. This gives them time to rez and then take the mob down.

Second mob rinse and repeat. Drop the toggles debuffs and howl and then blast away..

Someone asks.. how we doing now.. some other person says.. we are doing fine but the defender is trying to be a blaster and its getting on my nerves...

I said Excuse You ?? what was that...

He said your a defender.. Dont you have an AoE heal I said yes.. He said well your support then use it.. ( keep in mind NO ONE had died since I showed up on the team )

I said I do other things to keep the team alive than heal. In fact they work better than my heals. I am debuffing you must not play defenders much at all. They Shouted I Have a defender. I play defenders just do your job and heal...

I said OK.. you asked for it..

Turned off every toggle.. and stopped blasting with my -res attacks.. within 30 seconds the entire team had died except me and the Stone tank..

What happened..... why did we die..

Then the lesson began...

I said Oh well see I was debuffing the +4 mobs to hit by almost 50% and their defense by 50% but I had to shut that off to heal..

I said then I was debuffing the damage they did to the team by 25% and increasing our damage by 30% but then I had to shut that off to heal...

Oh then I was taking down their recharge by about 75% but then you know I had to support and just use my heal...

Oh yeah that AoE attack that was annoying you.. that was another 20%-res which took their resistance down to 50% ..

Oh yeah then I had to shut off the 18% damage boost from Assault and the 12% to hitbuff from Tactics... you know cause I had to conserve the end to spam a 23% heal...

so yeah you gave up all that debuffing for a heal...

Then the team leader kicked the trouble maker.. ( who apparently was trying to micromanage the team the whole time ) LOL...

Here endeth the lesson.


The hard things I can do--- The impossible just take a little bit longer.

If numbers are so much more important than a teammate who is fun to play with, forget about the game altogether and go play with a calculator instead. -Claws and Effect-

 

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Did you at least pop Fallout off his corpse as a final gesture ?



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Ignore the idiots and show them the ability of non-healers to shut them up.... like usual?

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Empathy shines on dysfunctional teams, which the AE _BREEDS_ So it's hard for people to attribute value to sets that work best when you have a competent team (wherein Empathy will look almost useless).

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AE doesn't just breed them, it uses the Bokanovsky process to crank them out on an assembly-line basis.


"But in our enthusiasm, we could not resist a radical overhaul of the system, in which all of its major weaknesses have been exposed, analyzed, and replaced with new weaknesses."
-- Bruce Leverett, Register Allocation in Optimizing Compilers

 

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Did you at least pop Fallout off his corpse as a final gesture ?

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I squirted lemonade out of my nose when I read this.


 

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A lesson well learned hopefully. Then again, I get in a huff when people complain about KB. Sure, I could have my SK'd level 12 Earth/Storm using her mass immobilize for damage, or I could use a fun chain of Quicksand, Snow Storm, and Gale to keep my Ice Tanker, 2 Shield scrappers, and Energy Blaster safe from an entire group, holding the ltn or bosses that are hard or at range constantly. Nah, O2 is much more potent on an effective level 18 on level 19 Tier 5 difficulty.

Sure, it might not go perfectly to plan 100% of the time, but hey, I like it when I can stop 60% of attacks or more by stopping most melee attacks, and keeping ranged attacks at a minimum. Pretty much what I didn't KB is what my team took out first. Sounds like logic, something that most AEs seem to be lacking. This is one of the major reasons I do not do AE teams. My Defenders and Controllers have better teams they can deal with.


50s: Bla- Arch/Mental Cont- Mind/FF, Earth/Cold, Ill/Therm, Earth/Rad Dominator- Plant/Psi, Elec/Earth Corr- Fire/Storm, Arch/Sonic, Rad/Kin, Beam/Sonic, Psi/Time Stalker- Elec/SR Def- Storm/Dark, Emp/Psi, Dark/Elec, FF/Arch, TA/Ice, TA/Elec, Kin/AR, Cold/DP, Traps/Psi Scrap- Fire/Shield Tanker- Dark/Mace, Ice/Kin Brute- Claws/WP, SS/Energy, BS/Elec

 

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Today's facepalm:

Tank with 42-month vet badge in RWZ, talking to a rad/rad def teammate of mine who mentioned having soloed their last level, wanting to know why anyone would solo a defender.

Doesn't take AE to produce idiots.


 

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I said Oh well see I was debuffing the +4 mobs to hit by almost 50% and their defense by 50% but I had to shut that off to heal..

I said then I was debuffing the damage they did to the team by 25% and increasing our damage by 30% but then I had to shut that off to heal...

Oh then I was taking down their recharge by about 75% but then you know I had to support and just use my heal...

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Keep in mind the purple patch; many debuffs are at 48% effectiveness vs. +4's. I typically stack 3-4 debuffers in my 54-melting missions.

Other than that, Nice Job!


 

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I openly mock the people who broadcast that they are a "healer".

/b "WTF is a "Healer"?"
They respond "What kinda question is that? I heal people!"
"So, that narrows it down to a Dark DEF, Rad DEF, Storm DEF, Kin DEF, an Emp DEF, a Kin 'troller, a Rad 'troller...... you get my point?"
"Im a Empath"
"Empath WHAT?"
"An Empath defender"
"Have some self respect. A good EMP does much more then just heal."


 

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I think the word "healer" is common enough in other MMOs that it's not too surprising it shows up whenever there is an influx of new people into the game.

If someone is chatting and mentions how he used to play a "brick" and teamed with a "healer" from his "guild", then it is probably nothing more than force of habit. No big deal. If they seem to know what their powers do and how to use them, that's all that matters.

There are people who seem to be captivated by the big green numbers, on the other hand, so they do fail to appreciate what Fulcrum Shift, Darkest Night, Fortitude and such are doing. I would probably wait before mocking them though. There's plenty about the game that I didn't know when I started, so I like to give people a fair chance.


 

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Today's facepalm:

Tank with 42-month vet badge in RWZ, talking to a rad/rad def teammate of mine who mentioned having soloed their last level, wanting to know why anyone would solo a defender.

Doesn't take AE to produce idiots.

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Depending on how it was meant it's a fair question. Given a defender's potential as a force multiplier, solo play barely scratches the surface of what the AT can do.


 

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I openly mock the people who broadcast that they are a "healer".

/b "WTF is a "Healer"?"
They respond "What kinda question is that? I heal people!"
"So, that narrows it down to a Dark DEF, Rad DEF, Storm DEF, Kin DEF, an Emp DEF, a Kin 'troller, a Rad 'troller...... you get my point?"
"Im a Empath"
"Empath WHAT?"
"An Empath defender"
"Have some self respect. A good EMP does much more then just heal."

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I do that, but on the other side. Mocking people asking for healers for their teams. It tends to be a fun little thing of "Sure, I've got an Empath. Don't know what this healer you speak of is."

There's something about AE farmers and the lack of understanding that green numbers is only a mitigation of damage already dealt. Empathy has more than just heals, and they end up getting a lot more powers than just the three heals and a rez. Anyone who doesn't understand that should be taken to the side and taught. Anyone who still doesn't understand it should be shot.

People complain about the a lot of things, but saying that green numbers are the only thing that matters with defenders is silly. Only thing I'll give people is Statesman or LR TFs, other than that get over oneself and take up other defenders or the like that can do more than heal. I mean, I know the ITF is so hard without an Empath...


50s: Bla- Arch/Mental Cont- Mind/FF, Earth/Cold, Ill/Therm, Earth/Rad Dominator- Plant/Psi, Elec/Earth Corr- Fire/Storm, Arch/Sonic, Rad/Kin, Beam/Sonic, Psi/Time Stalker- Elec/SR Def- Storm/Dark, Emp/Psi, Dark/Elec, FF/Arch, TA/Ice, TA/Elec, Kin/AR, Cold/DP, Traps/Psi Scrap- Fire/Shield Tanker- Dark/Mace, Ice/Kin Brute- Claws/WP, SS/Energy, BS/Elec

 

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I openly mock the people who broadcast that they are a "healer".

/b "WTF is a "Healer"?"
They respond "What kinda question is that? I heal people!"
"So, that narrows it down to a Dark DEF, Rad DEF, Storm DEF, Kin DEF, an Emp DEF, a Kin 'troller, a Rad 'troller...... you get my point?"
"Im a Empath"
"Empath WHAT?"
"An Empath defender"
"Have some self respect. A good EMP does much more then just heal."

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Did this last week also in Atlas of all places *rolls eyes*

Only I was on my PB and I have [glowing touch].

It was along the same lines of what you did but it turned pretty bad when I said that I was a "healzor" with my PB and have badges to prove it! But I told them lesson was over also when I had my Emp/Psi out with a full attack chain plus all buffs. Healzor indeed!


"every defender needs to fight. I don't care if you have to use BRAWL!"

 

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I was kind to a mid-20s scrapper the other day who was deep into proclaiming I AM SO AWESOME, LOOK AT HOW MUCH DAMAGE I AM DOING. Someone on the team was like, "yeah, you're dual blades, it's like that".

Since I had been spending a good chunk of my time on that mission explaining to the rest of the team how not to die a lot, I decided not to top it off by explaining that he was doing a ton of damage because he was damage-capped from receiving stacked Fulcrum Shifts plus the benefit of the -res of my sonic attacks.

But they all appreciated the heals!


 

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Make the "Healer Requesters" go away...I was on my Emp/Psy getting ready for an Arena match and this tell:

"Need healer. Atlas plz."

'You know...it's actually better if I Fortitude, Adrenalin Boost, RA and attack as well.'

"Need healer."

So I amble over to Atlas. There's a Granite Tanker (35) an Energy Blaster (5), a AR Blaster (12), a Spine Scrapper (16) and me (50). They are fighting 52s(!) and taking forever to defeat stuff.

After three minutes I faked a DC and went into /hide.

This is also happening Villainside, where my Therm gets spammed for "Healer" invites...despite the fact my Shields, buffs and Tier 8/9 in Thermal are far more useful?


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I guess I'm playing all the wrong characters lately. I have Defenders of every type, but I never get funny tells like that.

I remember once getting a tell out of the blue asking what powersets I had, and when I said "rad/rad" I never heard back. Somehow the ones who continue with "lol u suck u should reroll as a real healer" never seem interested.


 

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I hardly ever get "Are you a healer?" tells. I do see it a lot of broadcasts for it and other team finding ways for people asking for healers. I tend to respond to them as stated above.


50s: Bla- Arch/Mental Cont- Mind/FF, Earth/Cold, Ill/Therm, Earth/Rad Dominator- Plant/Psi, Elec/Earth Corr- Fire/Storm, Arch/Sonic, Rad/Kin, Beam/Sonic, Psi/Time Stalker- Elec/SR Def- Storm/Dark, Emp/Psi, Dark/Elec, FF/Arch, TA/Ice, TA/Elec, Kin/AR, Cold/DP, Traps/Psi Scrap- Fire/Shield Tanker- Dark/Mace, Ice/Kin Brute- Claws/WP, SS/Energy, BS/Elec

 

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This is also happening Villainside, where my Therm gets spammed for "Healer" invites...despite the fact my Shields, buffs and Tier 8/9 in Thermal are far more useful?

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Random thought. I've always thought the new 5th APP for blaster flame mastery should be a buff/debuff, e.g. 41 Bonfire/Char, 44 Fire Shield/Forge, 47 RotP. What if more buffs/debuffs were added to non-buff/debuff ATs' APP/PPPs, or maybe even to the regular pools? Would more accessibility lead to better understanding? We got a little bit during the last APP/PPP expansion, Melt Armor for tankers and Darkest Night for brutes, but I'd love to see more.

(And I certainly won't complain if blasters get Melt Armor instead of Forge. Seriously.)

P.S. My new defender, Nurseman, has been on search /hide since Outbreak. So, um, I think I've wriggled my way out of most of the headaches discussed in this thread. Phew.