We don't know.
Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.
~Ralph Waldo Emerson
"I was just the one with the most unsolicited sombrero." - Traegus
We don't know yet.
Having Vengeance and Fallout slotted for recharge means never having to say you're sorry.
Only guesses at this point, but my guess would be:
1) Hero to villain. You're still a hero AT and continue to use your hero epics.
Villain to hero. You're still a villain and use the patron pools, even if you've never done the arcs.
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2) Hero to villain. You can use hero epics or new patron pools designed for the hero ATs. Villain to hero. You can use your patron pools or newly designed epic pools for villain ATs.
I hope it's option two, but I do think it will be one or the other.
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I'd imagine nothing will change with respect to villains getting patrons at lvl 41 and heroes getting epics at lvl 41. A villain AT will probably have the patrons open up at lvl 41 just like they do with heroes and the epic power pools.
The only diffenence between patrons and epics is that it never ocurred to the Devs players should have to complete a story arc to have access to epic power pools.
In hindsight the Devs perhaps wish they had created story arcs for epic power pools. Maybe a redname will chime in on that point of speculation.
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I'd imagine nothing will change with respect to villains getting patrons at lvl 41 and heroes getting epics at lvl 41. A villain AT will probably have the patrons open up at lvl 41 just like they do with heroes and the epic power pools.
The only diffenence between patrons and epics is that it never ocurred to the Devs players should have to complete a story arc to have access to epic power pools.
In hindsight the Devs perhaps wish they had created story arcs for epic power pools. Maybe a redname will chime in on that point of speculation.
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What I'm wondering is...if I bring my corrupter over to the hero side do I get to select Epics since I can no longer do the Patron arcs.
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I'd imagine nothing will change with respect to villains getting patrons at lvl 41 and heroes getting epics at lvl 41. A villain AT will probably have the patrons open up at lvl 41 just like they do with heroes and the epic power pools.
The only diffenence between patrons and epics is that it never ocurred to the Devs players should have to complete a story arc to have access to epic power pools.
In hindsight the Devs perhaps wish they had created story arcs for epic power pools. Maybe a redname will chime in on that point of speculation.
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What I'm wondering is...if I bring my corrupter over to the hero side do I get to select Epics since I can no longer do the Patron arcs.
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We really don't know, Vitality. The Devs haven't announced any information along those lines yet. All we can do is speculate.
Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.
~Ralph Waldo Emerson
"I was just the one with the most unsolicited sombrero." - Traegus
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I'd imagine nothing will change with respect to villains getting patrons at lvl 41 and heroes getting epics at lvl 41. A villain AT will probably have the patrons open up at lvl 41 just like they do with heroes and the epic power pools.
The only diffenence between patrons and epics is that it never ocurred to the Devs players should have to complete a story arc to have access to epic power pools.
In hindsight the Devs perhaps wish they had created story arcs for epic power pools. Maybe a redname will chime in on that point of speculation.
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What I'm wondering is...if I bring my corrupter over to the hero side do I get to select Epics since I can no longer do the Patron arcs.
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We really don't know, Vitality. The Devs haven't announced any information along those lines yet. All we can do is speculate.
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I got that...I just don't think that person understood what I was asking.
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I'd imagine nothing will change with respect to villains getting patrons at lvl 41 and heroes getting epics at lvl 41. A villain AT will probably have the patrons open up at lvl 41 just like they do with heroes and the epic power pools.
The only diffenence between patrons and epics is that it never ocurred to the Devs players should have to complete a story arc to have access to epic power pools.
In hindsight the Devs perhaps wish they had created story arcs for epic power pools. Maybe a redname will chime in on that point of speculation.
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What I'm wondering is...if I bring my corrupter over to the hero side do I get to select Epics since I can no longer do the Patron arcs.
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We really don't know, Vitality. The Devs haven't announced any information along those lines yet. All we can do is speculate.
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I got that...I just don't think that person understood what I was asking.
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They did. They 'answered' your question in their first paragraph.
Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.
~Ralph Waldo Emerson
"I was just the one with the most unsolicited sombrero." - Traegus
No way to know until they tell us.
I'm kinda hoping that they remove the arc requirement for the patron pools and just make them accessable at level 41 like they do with the epics. Maybe even add some more. Then keep the patron arcs, but make it so you can run all of them if you so choose, like they are any other contact (maybe make some requirement for accessing them).
I don't know either. I only opened this thread because I was so excited to see rogue spelled correctly.
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I don't know either. I only opened this thread because I was so excited to see rogue spelled correctly.
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The hilarious thing is, it wasn't.
The name was actually supposed to be about several heroes turning into villains (Manticore, States, States' sidekick), so 'Rouge' was thought to be a clever play on words since Villains are generally considered the "red" side... but somebody screwed up and couldn't spell Rouge correctly.
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main thing i'd like to know is what will happen with Hero and Villain SG's ???
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They turn into delicious candy.
Head of TRICK, the all Trick Arrow and Traps SG
Part of the Repeat Offenders
Still waiting for his Official BackAlleyBrawler No-Prize
Nah, in Hindsight the devs just wish they hadn't made the epic pools for Heroes so *good*. Hence watered down Patron powers.
Maybe they'll Force Respec you? Maybe nothing will be impacted at all and you'll just unlock both blue and redside epic pools if you betrayed your side.
I don't really see why reformed villains can't use patron powers. The arcs seem to basically involve beating up the patron and stealing their techniques after all. 
As for the Arachnos member pets... consider Bob, agent of HYDRA. 
"Praetoria's a pretty cool place, but you've been taking some odd missions lately, boss... wait, where are we going? Paragon City, are you crazy! I don't wanna go to Paragon and be a goody two shoes! I don't wanna!"
I gave some thought to this and I also considered the fact when it comes to accolades what will the devs do? I think in this sense you can have only 1 accolade and not stack them. For instance if you are a hero and have the Freedom Phalanx Reserve accolade then you can't get High Pain Threshold which is the villain equivalent. At least that's what I'm hoping and why I'm not going to bother with my red toons I intend to move to blue side. I can get ALL the HP and End accolades in 1 day blue side but the red versions have such ridiculous requirements that I refuse to do them.
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Nah, in Hindsight the devs just wish they hadn't made the epic pools for Heroes so *good*. Hence watered down Patron powers.
Maybe they'll Force Respec you? Maybe nothing will be impacted at all and you'll just unlock both blue and redside epic pools if you betrayed your side.
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Hey, I like Patron Powers >.>
Edit: And I think they will keep Villains with PPPs and Heroes with APPs. They would have to make 4 new epic pools for every AT (except PB/WS) if it wasn't like that, because heroes don't have PPPs and Villains dont have APPs at the moment.
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Nah, in Hindsight the devs just wish they hadn't made the epic pools for Heroes so *good*. Hence watered down Patron powers.
Maybe they'll Force Respec you? Maybe nothing will be impacted at all and you'll just unlock both blue and redside epic pools if you betrayed your side.
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Hey, I like Patron Powers >.>
Edit: And I think they will keep Villains with PPPs and Heroes with APPs. They would have to make 4 new epic pools for every AT (except PB/WS) if it wasn't like that, because heroes don't have PPPs and Villains dont have APPs at the moment.
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except scrappers, they'll only have 3 PPPs(Sry ghost widow fans!)
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Nah, in Hindsight the devs just wish they hadn't made the epic pools for Heroes so *good*. Hence watered down Patron powers.
Maybe they'll Force Respec you? Maybe nothing will be impacted at all and you'll just unlock both blue and redside epic pools if you betrayed your side.
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Hey, I like Patron Powers >.>
Edit: And I think they will keep Villains with PPPs and Heroes with APPs. They would have to make 4 new epic pools for every AT (except PB/WS) if it wasn't like that, because heroes don't have PPPs and Villains dont have APPs at the moment.
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except scrappers, they'll only have 3 PPPs(Sry ghost widow fans!)
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And all three of them will have Focused Accuracy!
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Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.
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What happens with your Epic and Patron powers?
Say your a villain and you switch to a hero...do you get to select Epic Powers or what happens?