What do you call this?
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Aett_Thorn,
Posted on: 2009-07-01 05:23 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
Power Pool Man? At least, that's what mine was called, until I drunkenly deleted him (damn you, Pinnacle server!!!!).
But, a long time ago, there was a group of people who created MAN builds. These were controllers who, past level 6 or so, never used their primary or secondary powers, using only 'natural' attacks and the like, no travel powers, etc.
While your idea might go a little less extreme than this, I'd say that it'll fit the description of a general MAN build.
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Yep. Close to the MAN concept. I need to dig mine out and get another couple of levels on him.
The other restriction major on MAN builds was that only team with other MAN builds, basically to stop people leeching or PLing and claimed to have got a MAN build to 50.
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These are referred to as MAN builds. I'm pretty sure you can dig some threads on it out of the Controller boards. I dunno if the term lasted past the release of CoV, since it was in place before Controllers had Containment.
The intent was to level the absolutely hardest build possible, All Power pools, no enhancements... There are legends of one or two of these getting to 50 (Well, at the time, 40, but still, the max level).
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I have thought of making one of these.. now I know what to call it. I would like to see the power pool limit expanded to five pools instead of limited to four, though I can understand the need for limits.
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First off, welcome to the forums!
Secondly, the limit of four power pools does seem to make some sense, at least in the levels <40 world.
If you take nothing but pool powers from level 6 onward (can't take power pool powers at level 1, 2, or 4), until level 38, this gives you 16 power picks. That's four pools, with four powers each. Basically, the power picks seem well-suited for allowing no more than four pools, because you can max out each pool and have no extra slots to spare.
Not that I'm saying a fifth pool wouldn't be useful, but the limit does make some sense.
Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.
~Ralph Waldo Emerson
"I was just the one with the most unsolicited sombrero." - Traegus
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Power Pool Man? At least, that's what mine was called, until I drunkenly deleted him (damn you, Pinnacle server!!!!).
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Are you sure you didn't drunkenly create him?
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Power Pool Man? At least, that's what mine was called, until I drunkenly deleted him (damn you, Pinnacle server!!!!).
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Are you sure you didn't drunkenly create him?
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Can't it be both?
Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.
~Ralph Waldo Emerson
"I was just the one with the most unsolicited sombrero." - Traegus
There was a group of A** Clowns in the early days with various ideas... a Tank who didn't take point and used the Medicine Pool, explaining "I'm a healer"... a Scrapper with no enhancements- just used inspirations. They did Positron at level 10 and completed it- they had friends standing outside holding 20 Awakens each.
I had an A** Clown wannabe called "Hockey Night" (this was during the hockey strike)- his thing was that he'd charge in waving a sword, throw it down and start beating people with his fists.
If I recall, a pool power attack chain approaches mediocrity as long as you stay away from Flurry.
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I've also seen these called "Pool Boy" builds.
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Yes! The Extraordinary [censored] Clowns. It was a group of players (from the Blaster forums, IIRC) that decided to roll up a toon and abide by only one rule: "It's my $15, I'll play however I want." That was an awesome group of people and we, surprisingly, steam-rolled the Hollows. There was a Scrapper that would run through the level and pull *everything* back to the group, that was his 'thing'. As Fulmens stated, we had Tankers that would play Defender, Blasters that played Controller/Defender, Defenders that played Blasters, etc. That was the only time I actually had fun in the Hollows. I had an AR/Dev Blaster that played Controller using only Trops, Web, Taser and Beanbag, but never used any attack abilities because "I'm a Controller, not a Damager." 
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I had an AR/Dev Blaster that played Controller using only Trops, Web, Taser and Beanbag, but never used any attack abilities because "I'm a Controller, not a Damager."
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I've also seen these called "Pool Boy" builds.
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I was even more of an A** Clown... I couldn't even get into the SG right.
Wasn't there a Force Field tank who'd run in with Personal Force Field on?
Mini-guides: Force Field Defenders, Blasters, Market Self-Defense, Frankenslotting.
So you think you're a hero, huh.
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Power Pool Man? At least, that's what mine was called, until I drunkenly deleted him (damn you, Pinnacle server!!!!).
But, a long time ago, there was a group of people who created MAN builds. These were controllers who, past level 6 or so, never used their primary or secondary powers, using only 'natural' attacks and the like, no travel powers, etc.
While your idea might go a little less extreme than this, I'd say that it'll fit the description of a general MAN build.
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Yep, Man build. Some other games, like Diablo, call them "naked-AT" like "Naked Mage" for mages etc.
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Yes! The Extraordinary [censored] Clowns. It was a group of players (from the Blaster forums, IIRC) that decided to roll up a toon and abide by only one rule: "It's my $15, I'll play however I want." That was an awesome group of people and we, surprisingly, steam-rolled the Hollows. There was a Scrapper that would run through the level and pull *everything* back to the group, that was his 'thing'. As Fulmens stated, we had Tankers that would play Defender, Blasters that played Controller/Defender, Defenders that played Blasters, etc. That was the only time I actually had fun in the Hollows. I had an AR/Dev Blaster that played Controller using only Trops, Web, Taser and Beanbag, but never used any attack abilities because "I'm a Controller, not a Damager."
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Dang. I want to join that SG. :0
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I've also seen these called "Pool Boy" builds.
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First thing I thought of.
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Ok so I've been thinking about this pretty much for the last few days, and I think I'm going to try something and see how it works. Tell me what you think. I want to create a Static GenMan team with some rules to follow. First, the team wouldn't be about joke characters (as much fun as it sounds to do a AR/Dev controller
) But rather really trying to push the envelope as far as it can with the general powers. Players would meet 2-3 times weekly for 2-3 hours at a time and only level/exp together. One side goal would be to use Ventrillo to assist grouping. Each participant would abide by a few build rules:
(1) Players can choose any Class, Primary or secondary pool they wish, granted they must choose Heroes.
(2) Each person would declare at onset a Focus pool from the General power pools. Players can not choose a pool already chosen from another participant (unless all pools have been taken already.) Players would then take those powers from their focus pool as soon as they are able (level 6, 8, 14,20).
(3) Players may choose powers from their primary or secondary pools. However you must take a minimum of three general pool powers for every one Primary pool power and six general pool powers per secondary.
(4) Players can only choose from their Primary power or secondary pools until level 6, not both.
(5) Enhancements - You may only slot Primary or secondary powers on a scale of 1/5. In other words, you must place five enhancement slots into general pools before you can place one slot into a primary or secondary until level 22, at which time, players may place enhancement slots as they wish.
(6) Players can create their own look (Female, male/small, normal, large). and their own costumes. It is recommended however that they use as generic a look as possible. Remember this is the Gen(eric) man group. Names should contain the word "Man or Woman" as appropriate and a single diget number (I.e. HeroMan 1 or HeroWoman 1 or any version of that) The only costume requirement after that is to use your charecter number as your chest emblem (HeroMan1 would use a number "1" on his chest, HeroWoman3 would use a number 3.)
What do you guys/ladies think?
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I've also seen these called "Pool Boy" builds.
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I have one of those.
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Hello all
Last night I came up the wholly unoriginal idea to create a character that uses only general power pool abilities. I came to the forumns here this morning just to read to see what experiences others had with this amazingly original idea (/cough). Is there a slang term for this? You know, other then lame.....hehehe
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Hey, with AE, you can easily lvl a MAN to 50 now. Just find a big team and start leeching...
Just remember to keep the Fortune buff on your teammates if you bought the pack.
What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.
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Some other games, like Diablo, call them "naked-AT" like "Naked Mage" for mages etc.
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I tried the "Beyond Naked Mage" variant once. While a "Naked Mage" just didn't equip any items, "Beyond Naked Mages" were required to equip the worst of the cursed items you found. I think I got up to the mid-teens.
One fun aspect of the BNM rules was that at every 10th level up (or was it 5?), starting at the Church, you had to run into the dungeon and try to get down as deep as you can before dying. After rezzing outside, you now had to sneak or fight your way back to your body and gear. Note: you're actually "buffed" now since you're not wearing your cursed gear.
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Yes! The Extraordinary [censored] Clowns. It was a group of players (from the Blaster forums, IIRC) that decided to roll up a toon and abide by only one rule: "It's my $15, I'll play however I want." That was an awesome group of people and we, surprisingly, steam-rolled the Hollows. There was a Scrapper that would run through the level and pull *everything* back to the group, that was his 'thing'. As Fulmens stated, we had Tankers that would play Defender, Blasters that played Controller/Defender, Defenders that played Blasters, etc. That was the only time I actually had fun in the Hollows. I had an AR/Dev Blaster that played Controller using only Trops, Web, Taser and Beanbag, but never used any attack abilities because "I'm a Controller, not a Damager."
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Oh Sweet Jasper I didn't know anyone still remembered the A** Clowns. Yes it was all Blaster forum regulars circa 2005.
The AR/Dev "Controller" was Ohms (the whole thing was mainly his idea.) I don't recall who was behind the healing Tank but he used to tell people on PuGs that he was a pacifist and that he was roleplaying a combat medic. I remember one guy (I don't recall his AT) who did nothing but run in circles barking. He was a were-dog. A** Clown teams marked the only time I have ever seen newbies quit Hollows PuGs in horror.
The core players of the A** Clowns had so much fun we founded a regular SG on Virtue that exists to this day.
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Ha! I still log on The Pesterer (my Elec/Dev who only his used secondary powers like Trops and Taser, oh, and Fighting) every now and again. Mostly just to see which A$$clowns are still logging their chars on. Man that was fun. I think the were-dog was a Stormy with six-slotted Gale... oh, and his "in heat" diapers. Good times.
I kinda want to see an Assault Rifle Control set now. Riot Control?
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I've also seen these called "Pool Boy" builds.
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and now my mind has gone to a dirty place...
Hello all
Last night I came up the wholly unoriginal idea to create a character that uses only general power pool abilities. I came to the forumns here this morning just to read to see what experiences others had with this amazingly original idea (/cough). Is there a slang term for this? You know, other then lame.....hehehe