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Stun should get the clobber treatment and ET should be turned into an AoE. The size of the explosion when it hits would justify it.
That might make for a resurgance of EM.
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If you think the ET nerf was bad, you really don't want to see it turned into an area of effect attack. (edit: not that there's a chance in hell of it happening)
if ET was taken down to like 47 base damage and given a radius of ten and the hold was changed to KB...it would be more like all of the other set aoe's, but at least people would take it and not get pissed off all the time. Or if the old animation speed was given back and the self damage was just increased by like 200-300%.
It'd be nice if they did something to make the single target set competitive with the utility set. I mean DM does more ST, has two control powers, a heal, a better buildup and a good debuff.
EM has...pink...slow slow pink. If you just take all of the other attacks and skip ET it performs a bit less than SS in single target...but without rage...and pink.
Maybe power customization will make it more fun to play. Maybe having green, blue or white pom poms will make up for ET and the lack of aoe and the fact that a uitility set outdamages it.
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Um, no.
Because of the ET change, which made it hard to justify playing my EM/EA over my SS/EA.
I just thought that death was ironic enough to post.
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I think its funny that one power will make people stop playing a set... and that, apparently, not being the best = teh suck.
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I think YOU'RE funny! 
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So for the first time in a long time I hopped on my EM/EA. I noticed I had been running GW's arcs, so I just set the mission and teleported there.
I was on relentless, but I tried it for the hell of it. It was the Dr. Crow mission, so I ended up running into Citadel.
I was excited, because although I'd never finished the build, it's /EA, so energy was soft capped.
I hadn't prepared at all, but the fight went pretty well, until I got him down to about half health.
I wound up ET, and while it was animating, Citadel pulled out ET and killed me. Apparently he has the old animation. Damn. Made me remember why I never finished his build.
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Also Paragon Protectors and Valkerie have old versions of Moment of Glory. Cheeses me off everytime they use it--Not gonna hit for 3 minutes. 
The plastic tips at the end of shoelaces are called aglets. Their true purpose is sinister.
--The Question, JLU
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You do know there are bosses when you play on a team, right?
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Not for long!
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You do know there are bosses when you play on a team, right?
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You do know that on small teams they do not spawn in every group right? You do also know that on larger teams, you have enough members that can take out bosses or bring them down to very few HP in less than 3.3 seconds right?
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So sad... playing a newer WM/SD Brute today and one shotting freaks with the new Clobber as they try to rez really reminded me of my also perma-shelved EM/Ela Brute.
ET had such a mystique about it back in the day.
Now the only mystery is, "who is going to kill me or steal-kill my target while I animate this crap?"
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Kill stealing? If you are on a team: are you serious?
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You do know that on small teams they do not spawn in every group right?
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Oh, so now it's small teams we're talking about. In that case, EM will still perform fine since there won't be so much AoE damage being slung around. It gies the brute ample time to lay down some EP + BS followed up by a TF or ET.
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You do also know that on larger teams, you have enough members that can take out bosses or bring them down to very few HP in less than 3.3 seconds right?
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So now we're talking about uber teams? I like how you keep moving the goal posts.
Keep it up!
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My EM is also perm shelved.
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All mine are now. 2 50's and a handful of lvl 20-30's. The nerf sucked too much for me to even care about them anymore.
50 Inv/SS Tank, 50 Inv/EM Tank, 50 FA/SS Tank, 50 Shield/SS Tank, 50 WP/SS Tank, 50 Dark/Dark Tank, 50 EM/Elec Brute, 50 SS/FA Brute, 50 SS/SR Brute, 50 Fire/Kin Controller, 50 Plant/Storm Controller, 50 Earth/Therm Controller, 50 Necro/Dark MM, 50 Bots/FF MM, 50 Elec/SD Scrapper, 50 Arch/MM Blaster, 50 Emp/Psi Defender
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You do also know that on larger teams, you have enough members that can take out bosses or bring them down to very few HP in less than 3.3 seconds right?
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So now we're talking about uber teams? I like how you keep moving the goal posts.
Keep it up!
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"Goal posts?" He said that on teams you'll end up saving your attacks for bosses because everything else will die so fast to your team, and all you did was point out that bosses spawn when in teams. After he already mentioned bosses.
And, no, it doesn't take an "uber team" to kill a boss fast considering most of the team will be focusing on it first.
Well in the history of slaps in the face, that one hardly seems worthy of being called the 'Ultimate'.
Malakim
-Playing since COH beta and still love the game!
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So for the first time in a long time I hopped on my EM/EA. I noticed I had been running GW's arcs, so I just set the mission and teleported there.
I was on relentless, but I tried it for the hell of it. It was the Dr. Crow mission, so I ended up running into Citadel.
I was excited, because although I'd never finished the build, it's /EA, so energy was soft capped.
I hadn't prepared at all, but the fight went pretty well, until I got him down to about half health.
I wound up ET, and while it was animating, Citadel pulled out ET and killed me. Apparently he has the old animation. Damn. Made me remember why I never finished his build.
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Also Paragon Protectors and Valkerie have old versions of Moment of Glory. Cheeses me off everytime they use it--Not gonna hit for 3 minutes.
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PP's MOG doesn't have the psi hole that the player version used to either.
I did more than shelve my EM toons, I deleted my em/fa brute and my em/regen stalker.
Neither of them can afford to be locked out of their heals for very long so new ET is a death sentence for them.
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You do also know that on larger teams, you have enough members that can take out bosses or bring them down to very few HP in less than 3.3 seconds right?
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So now we're talking about uber teams? I like how you keep moving the goal posts.
Keep it up!
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"Goal posts?" He said that on teams you'll end up saving your attacks for bosses because everything else will die so fast to your team, and all you did was point out that bosses spawn when in teams. After he already mentioned bosses.
And, no, it doesn't take an "uber team" to kill a boss fast considering most of the team will be focusing on it first.
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I call BS. I was on a team last nite and we had to disband because we ran into a boss and didn't have an em on the team.
i c wut u did thur
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My EM is also perm shelved.
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All mine are now. 2 50's and a handful of lvl 20-30's. The nerf sucked too much for me to even care about them anymore.
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Meh, you people shelved your EM Brutes. I deleted mine.
deleted what?
i remember deleting this craptastic brute I had that swung around pink pom poms and was as useful as someone swinging around pink pom poms... is that EM?
Deleted my EM/Stone.
Odlus, don't bother arguing with idiots. They bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
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Deleted my EM/Stone.
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Ironically, I was just looking at deleting my EM/WP. I ran out of space on my account and the first toon I thought to delete was the EM.. go figure, lol.
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Odlus, don't bother arguing with idiots. They bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
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This is true. It turns out I failed reading comphrension in this thread.
I missread HelinCarnate's post and then proceeded to stick my foot farther down my throat.
So, my bad everyone. No more whiskeh before 8 AM, I promise.
Even though we tend to dissagree on the EM issue. I now have more respect for ya clouded. Just hope you realize I was teasing with my previous post.
Edit to add more on topic info: I started a new EM/WP again just for giggles and it is not so bad at the lower levels. I just need to find that mix of attacks that does not feel so clunky at higher levels. Not sure if that mix is out there.
Ya, I don't mind being called an idiot if I'm being an idiot...and I was being an idiot.
On a different note, it sucks working today when everyone and their mom has off. /em pout
I don't see what all the fuss is about, my EM/Inv is rapidly becoming one of my favourite characters.
They are great solo. But on many teams you end up contibuting less when others have alot of AOE being tossed around. If you respec out and skip some low level powers and get a couple AOE attacks from your patron, you end up being more team friendly. But that would be true of just about any AT.
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What I want is to see Stun (and Cobra Strike for MA's sake) get the Clobber treatment, since 'control' powers have been buffed lately-Clobber, then Dom power push and telekinetic thrust.
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I'd rather see stun be an AoE with, at least, the same radius of whirling hands. There are plenty of single-target attacks in energy melee.
Besides, when knockout blow and clobber had their damage changed from negligable to extreme/superior/whatevertheycallit, the sets didn't already have an attack that did total-focus-damage, and energy melee has one that exceeds that.
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Stun should get the clobber treatment and ET should be turned into an AoE. The size of the explosion when it hits would justify it.
That might make for a resurgance of EM.
Virtue:
Miserya - 50 EM/ELA Brute (Perma-shelved)
Adriana Rayne - 42 Katana/Dark Scrapper
Cyberpulse - 26 Super Strength/Willpower Brute
Steel Heart - 24 Invuln/Super Strength Tanker