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I picked up a good few 30-33 Posi's over the weekend (including Friday night).
As I was flexibale about the level within that range I think I got some rather good bargins, then again I haven't yet overslotted the level 22 one I got as a drop thats still in the power.
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For almost everything that Minotaur mentioned and the Posis, the level 31 and 32 pieces are an outstanding bargain. Why, I don't know, but even when I9 released, Fulmens was astounded to see lvl 39 pieces so radically lower than their lvl 40 counterparts (similarly with 49 vs 50).
I have a hard time shaking the symmetry OCD of seeing 33s across the board, though (something I've criticized before myself). Sometimes I fight it, sometimes I don't.
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That character is 46 and with a barebones inf supply of 300 million or so, so I do look for the bargins.
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However, it is still better than a Studio Apartment with No Vodka and a Roommate in the freezer.
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Just playing the game to fifty does NOT guarentee you millions of inf. I have 2 50s (blueside) and neither has more than 50M inf. I have one lower level (40 if memory serves, also blueside) who has over 70M.
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So, not only do all of your examples have "millions", they, in fact, have TENS of millions.
When you can do a cut-rate IO job on a toon for around 5 million and actually get decent set bonuses for under 30 million, 50 million is decent cash.
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This has come up repeatedly and I do regret that particular turn of phrase.
I'll re-phrase it this way:
Just playing to fifty does not guarantee you enough inf to IO your toon with sets, Frankenslot? Perhaps, I've not done the math on that.
I apologise for the confusion this quote is likely to create, and am suprised at the life the post has taken on :/
Today's lesson: Doing nothing does not get everything.
*EDIT* Or perhaps "Doing nothing special does not get special things"
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Yes it does.
Or wait, you don't mean 'sets', do you.
You mean THE GOOD STUFF.
That was designed to be expensive so you would have to make an effort to get it.
Why do you think you're entitled to the good stuff without putting any energy into earning it?
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Also, earning the good stuff gives me something to DO with my 50s. It's a way of continuing to improve, to continue to put in effort to get rewards, very similar to the leveling up process itself.
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Just playing to fifty does not guarantee you enough inf to IO your toon with sets,
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And it is not supposed to. Just because a player got a character to level 50, does not mean they are entitled to IO sets.
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Today's lesson: Doing nothing does not get everything.
*EDIT* Or perhaps "Doing nothing special does not get special things"
Anything better?
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I'm rather partial to Ned Flanders' parents' tidbit: "We've tried nuthin' and we're all out of ideas."
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Just playing to fifty does not guarantee you enough inf to IO your toon with sets,
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And it is not supposed to. Just because a player got a character to level 50, does not mean they are entitled to IO sets.
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*ding* and we have a winner!
Last time I checked, there wasn't a welfare department in the game. What made you think you should be entitled to IOs when you hit 50, especially when the devs have repeatedly stated the game is balanced around SOs.
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Also, earning the good stuff gives me something to DO with my 50s. It's a way of continuing to improve, to continue to put in effort to get rewards, very similar to the leveling up process itself.
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Which was pretty much the point, if I recall correctly.
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To which I must ask...
So?
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A studio apartment with no roommate and a bottle of vodka in the freezer is suddenly not worth mentioning.
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However, it is still better than a Studio Apartment with No Vodka and a Roommate in the freezer.
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Ooh, a sarcasm detector. Oh, that's a *real* useful invention. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...t-sarcasm.html
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Joining the chorus here. It's not supposed to.
This is going to sound more negative than I mean it: IOs are meant to be a time sink. They are intended to keep people playing and provide alternate means of "progress" beyond getting to level 50. If you were guaranteed access to set IOs as you got to 50, there wouldn't really be anything "alternate" about it.
Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
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Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
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Just playing the game to fifty does NOT guarentee you millions of inf. I have 2 50s (blueside) and neither has more than 50M inf. I have one lower level (40 if memory serves, also blueside) who has over 70M.
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So, not only do all of your examples have "millions", they, in fact, have TENS of millions.
When you can do a cut-rate IO job on a toon for around 5 million and actually get decent set bonuses for under 30 million, 50 million is decent cash.
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This has come up repeatedly and I do regret that particular turn of phrase.
I'll re-phrase it this way:
Just playing to fifty does not guarantee you enough inf to IO your toon with sets, Frankenslot? Perhaps, I've not done the math on that.
I apologise for the confusion this quote is likely to create, and am suprised at the life the post has taken on :/
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Frankenslotting a level 50 melee toon these days costs around 10 million inf. Maybe 15 million.
Maybe I should retry the Spine/Dark Experiment I ran in the early days of I9, where I did it on a 6 million inf budget over a weekend, and see what it costs now. (5.5 million of that was from respeccing out the SO's.)
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Just playing to fifty does not guarantee you enough inf to IO your toon with sets, Frankenslot? Perhaps, I've not done the math on that.
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Joining the chorus here. It's not supposed to.
This is going to sound more negative than I mean it: IOs are meant to be a time sink. They are intended to keep people playing and provide alternate means of "progress" beyond getting to level 50. If you were guaranteed access to set IOs as you got to 50, there wouldn't really be anything "alternate" about it.
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Exactly. I have a lvl 49 Ill/sonic troller and 50 fire/pain corr. both are pretty much done with levelling. Both I enjoy playing, roleplaying as, and generally using as my "mains" But if theres nothing for me to shoot for gamewise, I'd very quickly get bored. Thats where TFs, and merits, and the market pvp, and IOing them out comes into play.
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Join the crowd of similar posters then!
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and was able to drop or lowball everything else (steadfast for 150K, ToD, Sciroccos and Mako's sets etc) over a period of weeks. That is what you can't now do.
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*looks at my level 30 archer that just got 2 4-piece sets of Mako for silly prices in the last week*
*looks at my level 30 fire tank that's almost done with her lvl 33 Scirocco + Oblit sets over the last 4 weeks*
*looks at same archer that just low-balled lots o' lvl 33 Positrons in the last 2 weeks*
*looks at a lvl 36 stone/ice tank that's had his ToDs for a few months now*
None of these characters had over 50 mil when they got this stuff. I'm not sure what conclusion one might draw from that, but it's certainly not the conclusion you drew.
Now my ice/kin that is now level 33 might feel your pain a little trying to get sets of Posi with a bankroll of 2 mil, but she got a crafting badge or 3, crafted, sold, then did some flipping and got the sets on pretty low bids, all in the last 2 months.
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What do you consider pretty low bids ? Nowadays a low bid for me is 100K-500K, it used to be 10-20K which was plenty for all the multistrikes at any sub 40 level I wanted for example, and red fortunes were not much more, 50K max. The rare sets were more than that, but a lot less than they are now.
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I consider a low bid to be "anything less than the crafting cost". I personally bid a minimum of 55K as a sort of "Thank you for posting", no matter if the last five COMBINED are under 55K.
I'm not made of money, but sheesh, you only have 90-something slots and one rare salvage is a million inf, pretty much. I can afford a twentieth of that.
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and was able to drop or lowball everything else (steadfast for 150K, ToD, Sciroccos and Mako's sets etc) over a period of weeks. That is what you can't now do.
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*looks at my level 30 archer that just got 2 4-piece sets of Mako for silly prices in the last week*
*looks at my level 30 fire tank that's almost done with her lvl 33 Scirocco + Oblit sets over the last 4 weeks*
*looks at same archer that just low-balled lots o' lvl 33 Positrons in the last 2 weeks*
*looks at a lvl 36 stone/ice tank that's had his ToDs for a few months now*
None of these characters had over 50 mil when they got this stuff. I'm not sure what conclusion one might draw from that, but it's certainly not the conclusion you drew.
Now my ice/kin that is now level 33 might feel your pain a little trying to get sets of Posi with a bankroll of 2 mil, but she got a crafting badge or 3, crafted, sold, then did some flipping and got the sets on pretty low bids, all in the last 2 months.
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What do you consider pretty low bids ? Nowadays a low bid for me is 100K-500K, it used to be 10-20K which was plenty for all the multistrikes at any sub 40 level I wanted for example, and red fortunes were not much more, 50K max. The rare sets were more than that, but a lot less than they are now.
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Depends on my mood. Usually the default of "low ball" is "far under weekend average last 5 prices" (sometimes that is your range, other times not). Then we factor in the sitz im leben of each character. The fire tank above had dipped under 10 mil when I started putting in bids, so I had to bid well under my usual default while I started doing some flipping, crafting, Croatoa missions, and DA runs. Got really lucky bidding a couple times (oblit quads) and then had enough cash to up my Scirocco bids to the usual default. (And as a side note, all the Multistrikes she was using up until the switch were obtained between 512 influence up to about 150K. No problem.)
Archer was well in control at 30+ mil and was well before 27, so I could camp a lot of bids (and she was fully and dangerously frankenslotted way back at 17). Very successful there at staying in default position.
That ice/kin, though, that was a challenge starting the project with 2 mil, and her not being that great in DA (though I gave it many goes). And even so, I still managed 1 basilisk quad at discount price (I finally had to choke and buy the other for the going rate of 30 mil; I was tired of waiting).
The point is: average money level of the population changes, my money level changes, I still don't like paying get it NAO prices, I price accordingly and almost never pay a get it NAO price. And you wouldn't believe how often I snipe something for 512 influence.
Though those Basilisk quads task me. Said fire tank is sitting on 90+ merits; at level 33 I'm looking forward to my random rolls in a sad pathetic effort to draw one to sell.
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I can usually get whatever I want by dividing what its "worth" by three and bidding that, then waiting a while.
Except anything badgers create in bulk, those you can pick up for spare change.
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Thanks a bunch. Let Squez drone on and on and then you guys swoop in with the quick, succinct answers. WhyIoughtta...
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Off to the dynamite and *boom* go the races...
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