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It's the only way to get rid of them. I urge all legitmate players of the game to report AE farms when they see them. Something must be done and it's up to us as players to help the devs get rid of this blight on our game.

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No?

Edit: Let me clarify that no .... I will never use the complaint button against a farm because it will get the slot banned. I will, however, use the bug report button under the options tab whenever I see something that is a bit skewed, and let the dev's sort out what needs to be fixed.

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Wait so you're actually going to not report farms because you don't agree with the devs actions? Sorry but you're wrong. The devs are banning publisher slots of farmers for a damn good reason.

And you know what, theres a difference between in game farms and AE farms. Mainly that the in game stuff you're still learning the various parts of the game. AE farms you're experiencing a tiny part of the game which is leaving new players with little to no knowledge of the game. They're creating an entire group of 50's with no idea how to play.Thats not me saying no idea how to play my way, jsut flat out not know how to play. You can't dispute that because you know it's true.

You can ignore this problem all you like. I'm not saying its hard to get teams outside Atlas or anything, i'm saying that people shouldn't have to leave Atlas to avoid the farmer broadcasts. At the very least the AE needs to be instanced to remove it from zone broadcast.

Something has to be done about this.

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Destroy all robots!

Me, I'd be fine with those giant bipedal robots from "Terminator: Salvation" showing up in Atlas and tearing the MA building there right down to the ground, tossing the odd hero into their collection-baskets for use as forced labor over there in the Skynet Concentration Camp as they did so... but then, I do have a twisted sense of humor. Plus those robots totally kicked a**, we need them in the game ASAP. They are way cooler than those stupid Council robots. They are even cooler than Malta robots! And that is saying something.

My feelings about MA are fast approaching non-humorous, however.

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You know, I used to believe farming created bad players because I heard other people say so and it makes sense logically.

And then we got vet badges. I found people that had less than the 12 month badge who seemed to know the game inside and out and I saw others with 36+ vet badges who apparently did not know basic things about how powers worked, where certain things could be found, etc.

Some of those 12 monthers were farmers and some of those 36+ monthers were RABID anti-farmers. Do you know what that said to me?

Farming doesn't make bad players, although it can make a bad situation worse. Bad players exist all over the game whether they farm or not. If you take the time to read outside sources (Mid's, forum guides, ParagonWiki, etc.) anyone can really become an expert at this game whether they played 5 days or 5 years.

Helios, you seem to have good intentions, but I don't think you have fully thought this through. Do you really believe that if every "legitimate" player reported what they believed to be a farm in AE, that the problem will be solved?

What if the farm had a story? What exactly is a farm? Is your definition of farm the same as my definition? And are either of our definitions consistent with the GM or customer service definition? How many "farms" would you say are in AE right now? How long would it take for them to review them all?

According to their own policies, whoever gets an AE arc pulled can file an appeal or make a change and resubmit. If the company grants the appeal and overturns the ban, the arc is then unbannable as long as it is unchanged. And if people continue to report it THEY MIGHT GET BANNED themselves as griefers.

My advice to everyone: 1) Play what you like, how you like with people that like the same things. 2) Avoid people who play a way that you don't like. 3) Try to be nice and polite to everyone, even if they are not nice and polite to you. 4) Report bugs whenever you see them. 5) Report people only when there is no other reasonable alternative.

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Overlord of Dream Team and Nightmare Squad

and what exactly is your definition of a farm? it must be something really wierd because alot of people don't agree with you. oh and by the way the more reports you put in the more in jeopardy of getting your account banned for griefing you put yourself in.

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I'm there with you, Helios_Carnage.
I'm already actively doing so.

I'm also taking time to report players broadcasting for :: <ul type="square">[*]more members for AE farm teams[*]players broadcasting that they are looking for AE farm teams.[/list]
I send along the time, server, and side that they sent the broadcast message along with a cut-and-paste of their message and their global handle.

Needless to say if you say anything about PL-ing you're getting reported as well.

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It's the only way to get rid of them. I urge all legitmate players of the game to report AE farms when they see them. Something must be done and it's up to us as players to help the devs get rid of this blight on our game.

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No?

Edit: Let me clarify that no .... I will never use the complaint button against a farm because it will get the slot banned. I will, however, use the bug report button under the options tab whenever I see something that is a bit skewed, and let the dev's sort out what needs to be fixed.

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Wait so you're actually going to not report farms because you don't agree with the devs actions? Sorry but you're wrong. The devs are banning publisher slots of farmers for a damn good reason.

And you know what, theres a difference between in game farms and AE farms. Mainly that the in game stuff you're still learning the various parts of the game. AE farms you're experiencing a tiny part of the game which is leaving new players with little to no knowledge of the game. They're creating an entire group of 50's with no idea how to play.Thats not me saying no idea how to play my way, jsut flat out not know how to play. You can't dispute that because you know it's true.

You can ignore this problem all you like. I'm not saying its hard to get teams outside Atlas or anything, i'm saying that people shouldn't have to leave Atlas to avoid the farmer broadcasts. At the very least the AE needs to be instanced to remove it from zone broadcast.

Something has to be done about this.

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Yeah, you have to report non-reporters as well...

IBTD + 1

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Oh for crying out loud im reporting this thread myself. It's obvious you people don't give a damn about what happens to the game and are quit happy to let it get ruined by famers destroying the AE with the farm stigma.

I don't understand how so many supposedly reasonable people can jsut be ok with this. It jsut goes to show the mentality of the forum users. You don't like to complain about anything. Anyone who doesn't believe the way you do is wrong. Anyone who has a problem with an aspect of the game is wrong. Oh unless it's something pre-aproved by the forum dev defence force.

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Serious Answer:

If this many people reacted this way to your suggestion, what exactly does that tell you?

Perhaps people don't want to be bothered even with discussing farms. Perhaps we should consider that the development team is quite aware of both positive and negative implications of AE.

And perhaps farming isn't the evil you think it is.

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LOLZ.
The FORUM HAS GONE TO THE AMERICANS!!!!1!!!!!!1!!!\

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It's not greifing when you're right.

My deffinition of a farm. I'm talking about the massive outdoor missions with high level boss mobs and some objective like "Kill all the crazy Rikti" or something silly like that. The ones people advertise as boss farms in broadcast. Those are the farms i'm talking about. What possible reason is there for creating a single mission arc with a big outdoor mission filled with bosses? Besides as a farm.

If the farmers were jsut removed from the main zones i'd be happy. Instance the AE's so that they aren't interfeering with the rest of the game. Theres no reason why they should have access to zone broadcast, the players not farming shouldn't be forced to find other zones and just ignore the issues, the've done nothing wrong. And regardless of your opinion of farming the way they abuse the broadcast system in Atlas and make anything else happening in broadcast impossible is not right.

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I'm there with you, Helios_Carnage.
I'm already actively doing so.

I'm also taking time to report players broadcasting for :: <ul type="square">[*]more members for AE farm teams[*]players broadcasting that they are looking for AE farm teams.[/list]
I send along the time, server, and side that they sent the broadcast message along with a cut-and-paste of their message and their global handle.

Needless to say if you say anything about PL-ing you're getting reported as well.

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What server are you on and what zone do you "patrol"?

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Overlord of Dream Team and Nightmare Squad

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[ The devs are banning publisher slots of farmers for a damn good reason.

And you know what, theres a difference between in game farms and AE farms. Mainly that the in game stuff you're still learning the various parts of the game. AE farms you're experiencing a tiny part of the game which is leaving new players with little to no knowledge of the game. They're creating an entire group of 50's with no idea how to play.Thats not me saying no idea how to play my way, jsut flat out not know how to play. You can't dispute that because you know it's true.

You can ignore this problem all you like. I'm not saying its hard to get teams outside Atlas or anything, i'm saying that people shouldn't have to leave Atlas to avoid the farmer broadcasts. At the very least the AE needs to be instanced to remove it from zone broadcast.

Something has to be done about this.

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I thought this opinion was funny.

Now that I'm convinced it's serious, I find it hilarious.

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the first line: I thought the first ban was based on # of people reporting the story. So Basically I could not like that someone for any reason get my friends together and say "bann the punk." IF I did such a thing to the poster (note:I never would do such things, but there are those who would do such maliscious stuff for their personal jollies) would he think still think the Devs have banne dhim for a "good reason"

Oh sure he can get it back.. but I've had to petition stuck or bugged missions in past.. response time is iffy at best.. and it's my understanding that the giving back could take weeks.

The last part I have trouble understanding.

pre-MA:
LF sewer run
LFG ssewr
LFM sewr
join my sg
my sg
lft sewer

after MA (the crazy farm spam):
LFT MA farm
LFG MA
LFM MA FARM
join my sg
my sg
LF farm ma


I guess I kinda see where the anti-farm spam thing is coming from.. sewer has 5 letters .. MA FARM is 6 letters and a space.
Effectively adding 2 more characters per line in my Broadcast window. Why I could hardly enter a mission myself.. with all those extra letters floating about those weeks.

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Gotta love people on high pop servers who take the self righteous path. did you ever think that maybe these all boss maps are made to give a challenge. or that new people who are toying with the MA are still trying to figure it out. oh, and for the broadcast thing, maybe it will be changed at some point but comming here and demanding that everyone report farms is NOT going to get the broadcast to stop. in fact i was trying to play on some of the higher pop servers but /bc was scrolling by so fast that i couldn't keep up with it. so as you see the problem already exsisted BEFORE the MA so this is nothing new. get off your high horse and use other channels to find teams and whatnot.

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If the farmers were jsut removed from the main zones i'd be happy. Instance the AE's so that they aren't interfeering with the rest of the game. Theres no reason why they should have access to zone broadcast, the players not farming shouldn't be forced to find other zones and just ignore the issues, the've done nothing wrong. And regardless of your opinion of farming the way they abuse the broadcast system in Atlas and make anything else happening in broadcast impossible is not right.


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That was suggested here

It was locked as this topic will be as well.

In this very same forum is a topic called:
The Official Farming Discussion Thread

Whine there please.

Instead of immediately reacting as OH NOES THINGS ARE HORRIBLE, think it over for a few days, and maybe then you'll be a little bit more calmer and rational and begin thinking from multiple sides with the issue: i.e. how can we preserve the enjoyment of the game for as many people as possible and not completely trash AE, which is something the developers are quite proud of (rightfully so)

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/em grabs popcorn

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*munches on Mac's popcorn*

So much hate in this thread.......

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Average Joes FAP THE MENTOR PROJECT Justice Events

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I'm there with you, Helios_Carnage.
I'm already actively doing so.

I'm also taking time to report players broadcasting for :: <ul type="square">[*]more members for AE farm teams[*]players broadcasting that they are looking for AE farm teams.[/list]
I send along the time, server, and side that they sent the broadcast message along with a cut-and-paste of their message and their global handle.

Needless to say if you say anything about PL-ing you're getting reported as well.

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I'd almost consider that abusing the GM's to a point.
Sending THAT much spam about so and so is farming is sounding more like tattling than responsible reporting.

In any case, report the zone of Cap on Infinity. You might even catch those evil marketeers in your swath of vengeance.

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will not be tolerated by those of us in the community that actually enjoy this game.

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Please provide documentary evidence that people who don't play the game the same way you do aren't enjoying the game.

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Don't you understand how a witch hunt works? Evidence is for fools.

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Yeah, in witch hunts people are accused of supernatural crimes that they did not commit and are then tortured to confess that they did, in fact, possess supernatural powers.

Are you trying to tell me that I shouldn't report farmers and farm missions because :: <ul type="square">[*]they don't farm[*] they aren't creating farming missions (even if farm is in the title)[*]...and the non-farmers -- that are accused of being farmers and writing farming missions --are being tortured into admitting that they are farming and creating farming content in the MA [/list]
Your understanding of a witch hunt is very weak.

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Who cares?
You don't have to farm.
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You are right!
The DEVs told you not to. Yet you still do it.
Take your whippin' like a real hero/villain and stop being a sissy about it.

Step up to the plate and send a PM to the DEVs with your global handles and say that you are a farming in the MA and ask what they are going to do about it.

I really want to see what happens.

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I'm there with you, Helios_Carnage.
I'm already actively doing so.

I'm also taking time to report players broadcasting for :: <ul type="square">[*]more members for AE farm teams[*]players broadcasting that they are looking for AE farm teams.[/list]
I send along the time, server, and side that they sent the broadcast message along with a cut-and-paste of their message and their global handle.

Needless to say if you say anything about PL-ing you're getting reported as well.

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I'd almost consider that abusing the GM's to a point.
Sending THAT much spam about so and so is farming is sounding more like tattling than responsible reporting.

In any case, report the zone of Cap on Infinity. You might even catch those evil marketeers in your swath of vengeance.

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Leave us marketeers alone!

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There are no farms

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This isn't to start a fight but your signiture says your ignoring anyone arguing about being able to farm and that you are over it........If that where true you wouldn't be in this thread at all or be able to see a great many of the posts.

just sayin....

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"Play Nice and BEHAVE! I don't want to hear about any more of your shenanigans brought up in our meetings at Paragon"-Ghost Falcon @Tritonfree @Philly's 2nd Convenient CIGAL BoBC/INOANN Arts&Crafts Sporks
Average Joes FAP THE MENTOR PROJECT Justice Events

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I'm there with you, Helios_Carnage.
I'm already actively doing so.

I'm also taking time to report players broadcasting for :: <ul type="square">[*]more members for AE farm teams[*]players broadcasting that they are looking for AE farm teams.[/list]
I send along the time, server, and side that they sent the broadcast message along with a cut-and-paste of their message and their global handle.

Needless to say if you say anything about PL-ing you're getting reported as well.

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Lol, priceless think this is sig worthy.

How far will people go.

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@Intro lolPvP

Please use the promise that's in your signature and just shut up already. You shouldn't be able to respond to anyone in this thread except the OP, so just go away.

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Oh, and here's another post just because I'm farming my post count (see location).

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It's not greifing when you're right.

My deffinition of a farm. I'm talking about the massive outdoor missions with high level boss mobs and some objective like "Kill all the crazy Rikti" or something silly like that. The ones people advertise as boss farms in broadcast. Those are the farms i'm talking about. What possible reason is there for creating a single mission arc with a big outdoor mission filled with bosses? Besides as a farm.

If the farmers were jsut removed from the main zones i'd be happy. Instance the AE's so that they aren't interfeering with the rest of the game. Theres no reason why they should have access to zone broadcast, the players not farming shouldn't be forced to find other zones and just ignore the issues, the've done nothing wrong. And regardless of your opinion of farming the way they abuse the broadcast system in Atlas and make anything else happening in broadcast impossible is not right.

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The main idea behind a boss farm is to get the same challenge lvl of game play as you would in a tough tf/sf, but without committing to a 3-6 hr ordeal of the TF/SF.

Atlas: What is up with atlas? Why does everyone think they have to hang out there? This guy says he shouldn't have to leave Atlas to get away from farm spam O.o
If you really are a "legit" player why are you hanging out in Atlas? Of my experience Blue side Atlas is at best what 5% of the story, and that may be setting it too high. Also the whole having to listen to unwanted spam. That problem was fixed many issues ago. WE can now edit our chat boxes to view anything we want. Set up diff tabs and everything. Even, now this will trip you out.. right click on the guy who's repeatedly annoying you with whatever and choose to ignore him. Yet no one wants to use these features

Onthat note.. I just can't take this thread anymore and do not want to see it again it is ruining my game. So I'll check back in an hour an see what else I can find that irks me.

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I'm there with you, Helios_Carnage.
I'm already actively doing so.

I'm also taking time to report players broadcasting for :: <ul type="square">[*]more members for AE farm teams[*]players broadcasting that they are looking for AE farm teams.[/list]
I send along the time, server, and side that they sent the broadcast message along with a cut-and-paste of their message and their global handle.

Needless to say if you say anything about PL-ing you're getting reported as well.

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Nobody likes a snitch. Why dont you start playing the game and not act like a 5 year old tattletale.

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I'm there with you, Helios_Carnage.
I'm already actively doing so.

I'm also taking time to report players broadcasting for :: <ul type="square">[*]more members for AE farm teams[*]players broadcasting that they are looking for AE farm teams.[/list]
I send along the time, server, and side that they sent the broadcast message along with a cut-and-paste of their message and their global handle.

Needless to say if you say anything about PL-ing you're getting reported as well.

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Nobody likes a snitch. Why dont you start playing the game and not act like a 5 year old tattletale.

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He is playing a game. Just not the same one that anyone else on the servers is.

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