Helios_Carnage

I understand a few things here but whats wrong with the AH IO's and radio missions? Also you're gonna have a really horrible time once you hit Kings Row. How do you plan on getting contacts there exactly? Since I assume you won't be using and guides to check the badge unlocked contacts.

Power to you,. jsut seems that while you're ignoring a lot of frustrating parts you're also ignoring a lot of parts that made the game better.

Except no.

Not exactly at least. SKed players don't get the same XP as a character thats actually that level but they do get more then their real level.

Why can't the auto sidekicking thing be removed?

If people want ot play higher level content normally they must be sidekicked properly, why should AE be any different? I see no benifit to auto-sidekicking, all it does it present a host of power leveling opportunities.

I have but either way you know what it is and you know how the AE was intended to be used. All of you do. SO don't pretend otherwise.

I already defined what i'm talking about and so have the devs. You know what farming is, you know how the AE was intended to be used. Don't play dumb.

It really is remarkable the way you all strugle to defend something you know is against the spirit fo the game.

You stand around saying that farming doesn't affect anyone. Even when presented with proof that it does. You give options for others to work around you while not being willing to make any changes to the way you do things.

Instead of changing the behaviour of farmers to make life easier for those using all of Atlas for other things you insist that they adjust to suit you. It's downright arrogant to assume that one small section of the player base who park themselves in a tiny corner of the servers should have the right to determine what others do.

Yeah yeah, we're doing the same thing. Well the difference is that the way we play is how the game was intended to be played. AE farms are essentially manipulating the game system in a way that the devs do not support, and somehow the rest of us are in the wrong? Sorry no, i'm not accepting that.

You stand around making statements like "Remove your broadcast channel" "Go to Galaxy". Well why should we? Why should we move to accommodate you? What makes you better then the players who are doing the proper missions, playing the game content and trying to level their new characters the right way, so they can learn as they go.

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That you're trying to find every extreme you can and say that if we do it we're wrong jsut proves that you know i'm right.

Farming is against the devs intended uses of MA. End of discussion.

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That's old news. Why did you start this thread weeks after that?

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Because the responses in this thread make it clear that the forums never got the memo.

That you're trying to find every extreme you can and say that if we do it we're wrong jsut proves that you know i'm right.

Farming is against the devs intended uses of MA. End of discussion.

I'm gonna say this one last time.

Why is the burden on me to ignore the farmers when the farmers are the ones using an in game system in a way that wasn't intended and has been stated by the devs to be something they're trying to stop.

Why exactly should I have to change anything about my play style to avoid the farmers? They're the ones who're breaking the rules not me.

It's not greifing when you're right.

My deffinition of a farm. I'm talking about the massive outdoor missions with high level boss mobs and some objective like "Kill all the crazy Rikti" or something silly like that. The ones people advertise as boss farms in broadcast. Those are the farms i'm talking about. What possible reason is there for creating a single mission arc with a big outdoor mission filled with bosses? Besides as a farm.

If the farmers were jsut removed from the main zones i'd be happy. Instance the AE's so that they aren't interfeering with the rest of the game. Theres no reason why they should have access to zone broadcast, the players not farming shouldn't be forced to find other zones and just ignore the issues, the've done nothing wrong. And regardless of your opinion of farming the way they abuse the broadcast system in Atlas and make anything else happening in broadcast impossible is not right.

Oh for crying out loud im reporting this thread myself. It's obvious you people don't give a damn about what happens to the game and are quit happy to let it get ruined by famers destroying the AE with the farm stigma.

I don't understand how so many supposedly reasonable people can jsut be ok with this. It jsut goes to show the mentality of the forum users. You don't like to complain about anything. Anyone who doesn't believe the way you do is wrong. Anyone who has a problem with an aspect of the game is wrong. Oh unless it's something pre-aproved by the forum dev defence force.

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It's the only way to get rid of them. I urge all legitmate players of the game to report AE farms when they see them. Something must be done and it's up to us as players to help the devs get rid of this blight on our game.

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No?

Edit: Let me clarify that no .... I will never use the complaint button against a farm because it will get the slot banned. I will, however, use the bug report button under the options tab whenever I see something that is a bit skewed, and let the dev's sort out what needs to be fixed.

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Wait so you're actually going to not report farms because you don't agree with the devs actions? Sorry but you're wrong. The devs are banning publisher slots of farmers for a damn good reason.

And you know what, theres a difference between in game farms and AE farms. Mainly that the in game stuff you're still learning the various parts of the game. AE farms you're experiencing a tiny part of the game which is leaving new players with little to no knowledge of the game. They're creating an entire group of 50's with no idea how to play.Thats not me saying no idea how to play my way, jsut flat out not know how to play. You can't dispute that because you know it's true.

You can ignore this problem all you like. I'm not saying its hard to get teams outside Atlas or anything, i'm saying that people shouldn't have to leave Atlas to avoid the farmer broadcasts. At the very least the AE needs to be instanced to remove it from zone broadcast.

Something has to be done about this.

Oh good for you you can find a sewer team.

All I can seem to find is lvl 50's and 30's looking for farm teams.

Have they been making finding a normal team in Atlas almost impossible? Have they been ruining a fantastic addition to the game by clogging the MA lists with pointless missions?

So we should roll over and let farmers ruin the game?

Well people obviously aren't doing it so it needs to be reinforced. The devs are either unwilling or unable to force changes that need to be made to get the farmers at least out of the main zones. While instancing the AE buildings would do it it's clear they can't do that. So we the players have to help them with what they can do.

Ban the arcs, lock the publishing slots, and make it known that this kind of behaviour will not be tolerated by those of us in the community that actually enjoy this game. If you want to farm do it in private, don't go causing issues for the rest of us by clogging up the broadcast channels and dragging newbies into your farms.

It's the only way to get rid of them. I urge all legitmate players of the game to report AE farms when they see them. Something must be done and it's up to us as players to help the devs get rid of this blight on our game.

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Farming needs to be addressed somehow. I think what people don't understand is exactly why AE farms are so much more damaging to the game.

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And I think what the OP doesn't understand is that removing an AE building will do nothing to address that problem, aside from remove the broadcast chatter from his favored zone.

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That's simple. Remove 'Broadcast' from your chat channels.

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Why should we be forced to do that? Theres an AE channel why can't the Farmers use that instead of clogging up a channel used by legitimate players? What gives farmers the right to kick people out of an entire channel? Nothing at all. In fact they have less right to it since they're abusing a game system and we're not.

Yeah i'm gonna go with the others and put this out there. Not to be rude but the things you're offering, we don't really need it. We have all that already.

Farming needs to be addressed somehow. I think what people don't understand is exactly why AE farms are so much more damaging to the game.

AE farms create a clog in the broadcasts that make normal teams and normal players get swamped. In Atlas new players may very well not even be aware of other options besides farming.

Farms are also cloging the AE story lists. Allowing them to continue is also placing a negative stigma on the AE in general. I've seen plenty of players that didn't even know it was for something besides fast leveling.

These problems don't exist with non-ae farms. Non-ae farms are rare enough normally and don't clog up multiple zones and distort the experiences of new players by existing. And thats why AE farms need to be stopped.

Laxx I may have to borrow elements of the one you made for a character i'm making. I've been trying to put together a good costume taht looks like ... well for lack of a better word a throw together. Something a 17 year old could put together in his basement to fight crime. Something that doens't require fancy pads or spandex or a big awesome mask you know?

We won't be getting safeguards or mayhems in the Ouroborus. It's already been stated that it's not likely to happen. So don't hold your breath.

He's a male toon. A tall one but jsut the standard male toon.

I don't have the anime armor yet, something tells me that may have made this a good deal easier. I've tried going through all the bits I can, the biggest problem is I can't get the legs and chest to look very battle suit like. I'm using a lot of parts from the one clobbertime made actually. Same shoulders and chest. But with rocket boots and a different head set to give the helmet a more segmented look. Like it could actually be taken off.

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I recall reading something very similar a few years ago, and someone said that it couldnt be done under the current system, but i still like it and would love to see it.

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It can be done though. We can already add new things to powers with IO's. Adding them in a toggle shouldn't be too difficult. It'd just be based on one of the many accuracy toggles we have around. Or hell the fire melle/armor (not sure which) power that increases fire damage is probably based on the same principal.

I can only think of 1 reason why you'd want to.

Stop it.