Prestige; Does anyone care anymore?


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I'm just curious if a SG/VG prestige rank matters to the playerbase anymore.

I know when bases first came out there were prestige wars and if you were #1 in rank for prestige it was a matter of pride.

But that was then. Does anyone still feel the same way?


 

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Back in the day, once I got my SG onto the top 100 list, I didn't really care. By then, the base had everything it needed anyway. That's especially true with today's TopList numbers.

As for competition within the SG.. sure there are some who still like to brag about being the first one to 1 Mil prestige, or reaching 1 mil prestige before they even hit lvl 50.. or having multiple characters with over a mil... and like you said.. the occasional friendly fun of competing for a near-top rank, or "I got X amount of prestige in 1 day"... or the infamous contexts where the prestige winner gets a massive inf bonus or something.

It's funny that you mention this actually because I recently started a character on a new server, so it's the first time in years I'm in somebody ELSE's SG.. and I was just looking at the prestige list earlier and trying to figure how long it will take me to get into one of the top earning spots. haha

But if you are talking about an SG that farms.. I'm sure the numbers are much much higher. (I used to turn my prestige off at 1M just as a stepping stone.. nowadays I don't worry about inf either, so I just keep certain toons in SG mode and others not.)


 

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Some people never cared. Some have always paid attention to it. I'm the top earner in my SG and another one where I'm a member. I'm in the top 5 in a couple others. Now that you always earn at leave 50% influence, and with invention drops, influence just rains down on us. All but one of my toons are in SG mode at all times. (I don't have all the influence badges on my badge-hunter.)


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I have most my toons just sitting in my alts SG so I don't care about it much. But for the toons that are in a couple of my friends supergroups I like to get the big numbers and keep going so I'm untouchable. Maybe it is the bragging rights but I just like to be up there above everyone else.

Right now I'm helping a friend get her SG up and I think I got 700k prestige in the past week and now have the biggest numbers with 2nd place only being 100k. Come to think of it, I'm pretty sure it is all the bragging rights, my goal is 1 mill then I'm going to try for 5 mill.


 

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I apppreciate all the responses but the jist of the thread was whether anybody cares at all about which SG/VG is ranked first in overal prestige earned and not what your personal prestige totals are.


 

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Our core group of 10 (which now comprises like 8 SGs) has never really been worried about "earning" the most for the SG. We've never incentivized prestige goals. Even with this latest SG we started a few months ago, we're already up to a sustainable base with everything but the last few porters, just on regular play.

Our general rule of thumb has always been "Play in SG mode, until you can't afford it. And if you can't afford it, ask one of us for some cash, and continue playing in SG mode." We try to spread the wealth as much as possible. The other day I got 4 mill from a mate because I'd started on sets at 35 and was running short. He'd made 60 mill on a respec recipe, so we all benefited. I turned around this week and gave 1 mill to another mate's lowbie alt. Share and share alike.

Our group has so many alts, with new ones rolled every week, that competing for prestige goals would be silly. Plus, we've got people that are in college or at jobs that can play during the day, people with kids who can't play more than a couple hours at night, and across that spectrum. Wouldn't be fair to make a competition on a completely unlevel playing field.

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I apppreciate all the responses but the jist of the thread was whether anybody cares at all about which SG/VG is ranked first in overal prestige earned and not what your personal prestige totals are.

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Ah, well with that clarification: no.
We've had a few top 100's, but we server hop so much that maintaining any kind of position on any single one detracts from our fun.


 

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I'm just curious if a SG/VG prestige rank matters to the playerbase anymore.

I know when bases first came out there were prestige wars and if you were #1 in rank for prestige it was a matter of pride.

But that was then. Does anyone still feel the same way?

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It matters to me. I have worked hard to achieve #1 in my SG on Guardian. Of course it would've been even harder if anyone else in the SG was still active. My next goal: #1 in my VG on Virtue (I'm currently #6 I believe).


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I apppreciate all the responses but the jist of the thread was whether anybody cares at all about which SG/VG is ranked first in overal prestige earned and not what your personal prestige totals are.

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Ah, well with that clarification: no.

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Oh. Yeah that wasn't clear to me at all. No, I don't care a whit about that.


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Back when farming Rikti Portals was a viable way for me to rack up Prestige, I briefly thought about trying to get on to the SG rank list with my personal SG. However, after the accidental double Prestige grant, there was no way. It gave the SGs with large memberships too much of of a lead that the gap pretty much insurmountable.


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My Super Group is working our way up through the ranks, we don't exactly care, but I do check from time to time when I'm there to pay rent or something.


 

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I'm just curious if a SG/VG prestige rank matters to the playerbase anymore.

I know when bases first came out there were prestige wars and if you were #1 in rank for prestige it was a matter of pride.

But that was then. Does anyone still feel the same way?

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Oh, prestige -rank-? I didn't give a flying rat's bum from day 1. Prestige itself, yeah, I care because it is needed to pay the base rent and trick the base out.




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In my personal experience, Top Prestige earners were the worst SGs to join. They were so prestige driven they'd invite anybody who'd join, pressure you into staying in SG mode, and never team with you. Many rarely even talked to you.

They seemed to already have their core group of friends to play with, and stuck to them almost exclusively. When they logged in, if their regular friends were not on, and you asked if they wanted to team, they'd offer up some excuse to not team and wait for their friends.

Many new recruits would attempt join and leave because the "Core SG members" had their exclusive cliques that only invited "outsiders" if it suited their PL needs.

Had that experience with 3 "top" prestige earners. I learned that Top Prestige SG pretty much does not mean good SG. I equate them with "sweatshops." Most don't care about their new recruits, pressure them to earn Prestige. Wont give them the time of day.

I found that SG who were less concerned about being the Top Prestige earner tended to be more player oriented and friendly. They still wanted players to earn prestige so they could put all the handy stuff into a base, but also seemed to try to include everyone in teaming.

This was my experience. I'm not saying it is true in every case of top prestige earners. I wouldn't know since I've not been a member of every top prestige earning SG.


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Never cared about rankings and never will.


 

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Never cared, lolzed those that did. Get enough to buy the base you want, then who cares?


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I'm just curious if a SG/VG prestige rank matters to the playerbase anymore.

I know when bases first came out there were prestige wars and if you were #1 in rank for prestige it was a matter of pride.

But that was then. Does anyone still feel the same way?

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That was really only for a few weeks/months. Those that have those ranks still boast about them, but IMO no one really ever cared in the first place.


 

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Nah, never cared about rankings. I only ever cared about the quality of folks behind the characters.


 

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I never felt that way in the first place.

The sheer number of prestige mules you have does not impress me. Leadership, scheduled teams and events, friendly, helpful SG mates who are online regularly and build teams with other SG mates in mind. Those are the things that draw me to a SG, not prestige count.


 

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I apppreciate all the responses but the jist of the thread was whether anybody cares at all about which SG/VG is ranked first in overal prestige earned and not what your personal prestige totals are.

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OH! Totally different question. For that, my answer would be "it depends". There are a handful of groups in the rankings who got prestige by an exploit and there are even more that did massive farming just to get high in the rankings. In those cases, the numbers are meaningless.

On the other hand, I find the ranking useful for gauging our progress. We never exploited, nor have we ever farmed for prestige. So, the fact that we have steadily climbed the ranks is a concrete sign that we're a growing, active group. Not the only sign, of course, but it's just one more piece of data that can be useful when properly evaluated.

So, yes. I do pay some attention to the numbers and usually check our status whenever I'm in City Hall to pay the rent.


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I do in all my SGs/VGs. I always try to be first....and second if possible.


 

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Never cared a whit for the rankings


 

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Don't care if my SG is #1 in Prestige ranking, because we got most of the goodies, and enough prestige to pay the rent for the next 350 years.


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I was in two Top 100 SGs on Virtue (was an officer in one and maintained the bases for both), and I always thought it was funny how much people thought that was important, or how we had to stay coalitioned to groups that were Top 100 SGs. In some of those cases, the other Top 100 SGs never communicated with us or teamed with us, and eventually I convinced the leadership to cut them loose in favor of good people who had SGs that would actually talk and team with us.

That's more important really. Top 100 SG rankings don't mean anything. Find SGs that have people that make you want to come back, the ones that have your back. Those are the ones you want to be with.


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In any supergroup where I've climbed the Prestige ranks and earned a lot for the group, Ive always felt like it was totally unappreciated.

From running my own personal group, you dont need huge amounts to build a decent base, so I'd say its overrated from both sides.


 

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Well I have 2 SG's and 1 VG that I founded on my home server 4 years ago. In that time I have made a network of friends who have joined and stayed in the SG. Many have been in there for 3+ years and we generally have a good time with each other. Prestige comes in for ranking reasons as all 3 bases have everything we need. A little over 2-3 years ago our VG was robbed by a fellow friend that was with us for a little over a year, in order to please her new boyfriend that was new to the game. This basically changed the way we rank people. Not to say that it changes the way we treat each other, we have an SG website and forums with goals etc.. one of the goals is to out do each other with prestige its more competitive stuff that we joke with each other with. We are friendly and helpful towards one another.. all this resulted in having 3 top 35 (out of top 100) SG's on Justice. (Our main one is 13, our next one is 28 and then our VG is 34.)

I am not going to say prestige matters, we are not prestige grinders in a PL sort of way. But we do play a lot and we have roughly 20 poeple that play in all 3 SG's together and we are generally goof balls that like to have fun while doing it. I understand they are some SG's out there that spam in atlas etc.. but our SG is mainly a network of real In game friends that have joined and have alts in.

Prestige is just a tool used by competitve people to keep compitition and goals alive to entertain some folks. Sometimes thats a good thing Whats imprtant to one may not be whats important to another. I guess it depends on the circumstances. Just because an SG is bigger or smaller doesn't make it better.. its the peoeple that are in the Sg that make it better. Prestige is completely secondary.

I am proud of my friends that have accomplished that feat, (3 top 35) Its not ego or gloating just something that we never though would happend 4 years ago when we started. Its just something that happend, and for that we should be proud At the same time we don;t look down at others in any way, as its not THAT important and does not change our playstyle when we team with each other.

I do agree once you have everything you want/need in a base its hard to figure out what else to do with the extra prestige O.o



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