Burning GR questions.


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i15 aside, I can't help but start looking forward to the eventual release of Going Rogue and the goodies it may bring. A number of questions have come to mind. I'm sure these will be answered in time as new info is rolled out, but I'm curious as to what questions others have regarding the expansion:

<ul type="square">[*]SG/VG Membership - is a character auto booted when they go rogue? are we given some sort of confirmation window or warning that we are close to getting booted from our group? Conversely, can we stay as "double agents" or whatever in our current groups if we cross over? Will there be an SG setting, like a moral tolerance level we can set within our groups?

[*]Neutral SG/VG's - On a related note, will it be possible to have neutral groups, comprised of neither heroes nor villains but mercenery types that ride that moral edge, doing both heroic and villainous content with access to both meta zones?
[*]Power Sets - Should we expect JUST Pistols and Demon Summoning in this expansion? Or are there several other powersets or some power proliferation coming with this expansion? I don't mean to sound ungrateful. Two entirely new sets is big for a free issue release. But then again, CoV brought about over a dozen new powersets upon its release.
[*]Back Items - So many people have asked for these. Each issue I get a little bit excited hoping this is the Christmas I get a real live jetpack Pony. I'm starting to lose hope that we'll ever get a full range of back details. But I could see this being a selling point for the expansion. Has it been included?[*]Starting Neutral - Will we be able, as the mythical survey hinted, start in Praetoria as a neutrally aligned AT, neither hero nor villain? Will this allow us to rapidly take a low level Brute blueside or conversely low level 'Troller redside, all before level 10?[/list]
These are just a few of the sets of questions that have bubbled up in my brain as I wonder what this expansion will bring. I am of course also wondering about how many tilesets and costume sets may be included and am eager to see some hints of these. Not to mention screens of the new city zones we will be getting. (And how many at that? 2? 3? A half dozen?)

Anyone else starting to get some burning questions about the expansion?


 

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Anyone else starting to get some burning questions about the expansion?

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I've had "burning questions" since the news came out; unfortunately the CoX marketing people have the dev's lips sealed. I just hope that we get SOMETHING more soon; it's frustrating.


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It seems more news surfaces about Issues just before you are about to explode due to the questions raised by the last tidbits. Sometimes, it occurs after you have finished picking up your aspoloded self.



 

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If it burns when you question, I advise a visit to your doctor, who will probably prescribe antibiotics.

Come on, you've been here for five years. You must know by now that the developers never release any answers to any questions this far in advance. So what's the point of asking them? Enjoy the game as it is now (or as it is about to be, on the test server) and let the future take care of itself.


 

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<ul type="square">[*]Starting Neutral - Will we be able, as the mythical survey hinted, start in Praetoria as a neutrally aligned AT, neither hero nor villain? Will this allow us to rapidly take a low level Brute blueside or conversely low level 'Troller redside, all before level 10?[/list]

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All I know is, my gut tells me...maybe.



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I think we're just gonna have to wait and see. Some of those questions might not even have answers at this point.


 

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Come on, you've been here for five years. You must know by now that the developers never release any answers to any questions this far in advance. So what's the point of asking them? Enjoy the game as it is now (or as it is about to be, on the test server) and let the future take care of itself.

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I think I remember some instances where they used to reveal some feature or something that was Far Future kind of thing. (SSOCS or something.)

When it failed to materialize, the players complained, and they stopped answering questions, or at least started filtering them through PR.

Of course, I also remember them denying that a new issue was being patched to Test or Live until the servers came back up, so they've become more open on at least one aspect.


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While I do know that there's no way I'll get an answer so soon, this is the question that's been teasing me recently.


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[LIST][*]SG/VG Membership - is a character auto booted when they go rogue? are we given some sort of confirmation window or warning that we are close to getting booted from our group? Conversely, can we stay as "double agents" or whatever in our current groups if we cross over? Will there be an SG setting, like a moral tolerance level we can set within our groups?


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While I do know that there's no way I'll get an answer so soon, this is the question that's been teasing me recently.

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Pretty sure I thought they said (in an interview or something) that you would get booted.


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<ul type="square">[*]Starting Neutral - Will we be able, as the mythical survey hinted, start in Praetoria as a neutrally aligned AT, neither hero nor villain? Will this allow us to rapidly take a low level Brute blueside or conversely low level 'Troller redside, all before level 10?[/list]

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All I know is, my gut tells me...maybe.

[/ QUOTE ]What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?


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<ul type="square">[*]Starting Neutral - Will we be able, as the mythical survey hinted, start in Praetoria as a neutrally aligned AT, neither hero nor villain? Will this allow us to rapidly take a low level Brute blueside or conversely low level 'Troller redside, all before level 10?[/list]

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All I know is, my gut tells me...maybe.

[/ QUOTE ]What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?

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Maybe it's apathy for gold, indifference for power...

All I know is, I'm on the fence about it.


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<ul type="square">[*]Starting Neutral - Will we be able, as the mythical survey hinted, start in Praetoria as a neutrally aligned AT, neither hero nor villain? Will this allow us to rapidly take a low level Brute blueside or conversely low level 'Troller redside, all before level 10?[/list]

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All I know is, my gut tells me...maybe.

[/ QUOTE ]What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?

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All I know is, my gut tells me...maybe.

[/ QUOTE ]What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?

[/ QUOTE ] One day, a man has everything. Then the next day, he blows up a billion dollar space station. And then the next day, he has nothing. Makes you think, huh?


 

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Come on, you've been here for five years. You must know by now that the developers never release any answers to any questions this far in advance. So what's the point of asking them? Enjoy the game as it is now (or as it is about to be, on the test server) and let the future take care of itself.

[/ QUOTE ]Fair enough, still doesn't mean I can't be curious what they're going to do. And with E3 going on this week, with a lot of the big game companies making announcements, it makes me wonder what this game has in store for us down the line too.


 

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Come on, you've been here for five years. You must know by now that the developers never release any answers to any questions this far in advance. So what's the point of asking them? Enjoy the game as it is now (or as it is about to be, on the test server) and let the future take care of itself.

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True. But if we don't ask some of these questions frequently enough, how will they know what to include in the inevitable FAQ? And in fact, if we haven't been asking the questions, might that not delay the release of said FAQ?! And that is my ulterior motive here: The FAQ that is our birthright! So rise up forumites and ask! Ask frequently! For this is the only path to the FAQ!


 

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IBTDITP!


 

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IBTDITP!

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Someone left a plate of cookies in the...
Happy Birthday Niviene! thread...

Anyone missing a plate of hot warm chewy, looked like chocolate chip cookies?


 

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I think the questions posed are EXCELLENT. I am willing to wait for official word on what all of Going Rogue is really about, but these are things that will need to be answered no doubt.


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How will Epics and Patrons work!?



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How will Epics and Patrons work!?

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Very good question.

An extended set of questions:

Would i16 (if in fact GR coincides with i16) include a new set of redside epic and blueside patron powers? Would epic powers be transportable but patron powers require that you stay "native?" And as a result would we see patron powers buffed to reflect this "sacrifice" of staying native? (I know I know, it is arguable that the thematic and tactical range currently available in blueside epics still out classes what patron powers can do...)

But yeah, that question you pose is a great one that will need to be resolved with GR somehow.


 

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You must know by now that the developers never release any answers to any questions this far in advance.

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I see your point, but unless you're privy to secret information about release dates, I don't think you know how far in advance we currently are.


 

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Assuming that Issue 16 is GR, which I think likely we have this hint today from Castle :

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Last I'd heard, the Dom changes weren't expected to make it in until after I15 actually went live? Glad to see this is happening ahead of schedule! This is where Beta actually begins, as far as I'm concerned. I'll transfer the most current versions of my Mind/Psi and Plant/Thorn over to test as soon as I get home tonight.

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They were not supposed to. However, schedule conflicts basically meant it was now or never* so, I chose to go with now.

* "Never" being an indeterminate period extending between now and I17.

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So, SOMETHING is going on Test soon enough that it got the Dom changes moved up to now.


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Anyone else starting to get some burning questions about the expansion?

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As I have been spending a lot of time hanging out in the various trash cans and recycle bins at NorCal, I feel I am more than qualified in answering these questions. With regards to the accuracy of my answers, I feel it only fair to warn you I am under heavy Accuracy and To Hit debuffs at the moment brought on by sleep deprivation, sugar binging and caffeine withdrawal.
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<ul type="square">[*]SG/VG Membership - is a character auto booted when they go rogue? are we given some sort of confirmation window or warning that we are close to getting booted from our group? Conversely, can we stay as "double agents" or whatever in our current groups if we cross over? Will there be an SG setting, like a moral tolerance level we can set within our groups?

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When you go rogue you will NOT be automatically kicked out of the super group. Instead every member in the group will be sent a secret ballot form. On the form they will be given the following options:

1) I want to kick X out of the group.
2) I want to change sides with X and force the group to change sides too.
3) I want to keep X in the group as a side-swapper and full-time whipping boy.
4) I like pie.

Majority rules. If option 2 is voted in then everyone in the group will switch sides whether they want to or not. That's what you get for living in a democratic society; suckers!

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[*]Neutral SG/VG's - On a related note, will it be possible to have neutral groups, comprised of neither heroes nor villains but mercenery types that ride that moral edge, doing both heroic and villainous content with access to both meta zones?

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Neutral groups will absolutely be possible! There will be three basic types:

1) Money Neutral: You do it all for the cash Boo-boo. Save the Mayor and his family from the Malta one day and kidnap him FOR the Malta the next. Whoever pays the bills owns your morality.

2) True Neutrals - This group of people believe in balance as the true path to enlightenment. They don't fight evil nor do they promote it; rather they fight whichever side seems to be stronger at any given time. So if the Villains have 55% of the power and the heroes only 45%, your team goes out to fight villains. If the heroes are ahead then you go after them. There is a very complex and involved mathematical equation for calculating who is leading. In order to join this group you need a bachelor's degree in accounting.

3) Apathy Neutrals - Who cares who's a villain and who's a hero? You're only in it to roleplay in Pocket D and occassionally participate in a Costume Contest or three anyway.

[ QUOTE ][*]Power Sets - Should we expect JUST Pistols and Demon Summoning in this expansion? Or are there several other powersets or some power proliferation coming with this expansion? I don't mean to sound ungrateful. Two entirely new sets is big for a free issue release. But then again, CoV brought about over a dozen new powersets upon its release.

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Okay, first of all "Going Rogue" is not going to be a free release. It's going to be an expansion; which typically means you pay for the privelege.

The good news is you will definitely be getting several new powersets with the upcoming expansion. I can't reveal them all, but you can expect such lovely additions as "Super Soaker" which will finally give water attacks to Blasters. "Shape Shifting" will be available to Scrappers and Brutes but it's still bugged as the first form "Bunny" is so weak it can't generate xp to advance past 2nd level. And popular rumor has it that "Omnipotence" will finally be available to Defenders.

A Pugilist attack style called Rock 'Em Sock 'Em is going to be available as well, but ONLY to Robot pets of Masterminds. The most interesting thing about this one is that if an enemy gets in a good shot, the robot's head will pop upwards on a ratchet pole of a neck. The robot will then be immobile until the MasterMind slams the head back into position once more.

[ QUOTE ][*]Back Items - So many people have asked for these. Each issue I get a little bit excited hoping this is the Christmas I get a real live jetpack Pony. I'm starting to lose hope that we'll ever get a full range of back details. But I could see this being a selling point for the expansion. Has it been included?

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Back items has been seriously considered for the upcoming expansion and you should expect to see a few added to the mix. Including the following:

1) Back Hair
2) Back Acne
3) Misspelled Tattoos
4) Hunchback
5) Towel Cape
6) Torn College Backpack w/ Too Many Books
7) Small Green Jedi Alien in Carry Pack

On a side note; the Jetpack Pony was tested but eventually discarded. Ponies don't steer jetpacks very well and it kept running into buildings.
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[*]Starting Neutral - Will we be able, as the mythical survey hinted, start in Praetoria as a neutrally aligned AT, neither hero nor villain? Will this allow us to rapidly take a low level Brute blueside or conversely low level 'Troller redside, all before level 10?[/list]
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Absolutely! You will definitely be able to start as neutral in any of the three types I mentioned above. Each neutrality type has it's own unique Tutorial.

1) Money Neutrals - Training in a Mercenary camp. You are taught all the basics of the usual CoX tutorials; combat, missions, etc. You are also trained extensively in Price Quotes, How to Get Your Pay From Reluctant Customers, How To Get Paid By Two Different People For The Same Job and the ever popular How to Money Launder Influence into Infamy and Back Again.

2) True Neutrals - This takes place at a serene temple high in the mountains. This is possibly the most boring tutorial ever devised as each lesson is followed immediately by two hours of silent contemplation and meditation. If nothing else you'll have the /e lotus down pat by the time you finish.

3) Apathy Neutrals - You start out in your parents' basement playing video games. You don't actually do the tutorial yourself, instead you learn what you need to know by playing the video game. During play your mother shows up to scream at you to clean up this pig sty and your father follows that up with "get a JOB!" After this you leave because they're such drags. Is any of this sounding familiar to some of you?

Hope that helps.

Now I have to sneak back into Positron's wastebasket. Today is his day to bring the donuts into work. I hope he skips the Jelly this time... I HATE jelly.


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