After logging in 103 characters for the 5th Anniversary, I would gladly accept the change to a global badge. I have one older alt character that was stuck and would just have a light blue background everytime I attempted to log him in near the end of the 2nd Anniversary. I petitioned, but he didn't end up getting moved until after the event. He didn't get the anniversary badge even though I petitioned for it. So yes, again, please make this badge global.
Gods, I would love this change. I spent 45 minutes last night logging in three servers worth of characters for the badge, and moving them to new Day Jobs while I was at it. I know I don't have to do it often, but it basically negated the play time I had. And after I logged I realized I had completely forgotten Champion 
So there's another server full to do tonight.
I'm leaning towards the "good move" idea. We don't know if it'll be retroactive at all, either. In any case, I'm thinking that as a badge community we need to pick our battles better.
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I'm leaning towards the "good move" idea. We don't know if it'll be retroactive at all, either. In any case, I'm thinking that as a badge community we need to pick our battles better.
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If it's not retroactive, then god yes, go for it, but i don't want guys I just made getting the 1 year badge... maybe it's just me misunderstanding what Posi was saying... A difinet possibility i'm afraid. heh. 
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While I like how the Anniversary badges can currently kind of tell you "how old" an individual character is I don't think I'd be real upset if these badges became account based. Making them account based would certainly solve the "have to log in dozens of alts" hassle some people have.
My guess (and this is purely a guess) is that if this change happened it would NOT be retroactive.
But once again I would not really be upset if they figured out how to award them retroactively anyway.
To be honest I've never really liked the idea of these badges in the first place. They are clearly "player" badges that don't have anything to do with the individual characters themselves. I think of them this way: Why would Superman get a badge for the anniversary of the founding of Metropolis? The anniversary of Metropolis has nothing directly to do with anything Superman did so why give him a badge for it? Thus based on my reasoning that these badges are semi-pointless to characters anyway the Devs might as well make them account based.
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I hope to heck it is retroactive if done. I also hope that there will be an account badges tab made.
I would say that those that oppose the anniversary badges being made global are in a very small minority.
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I'm leaning towards the "good move" idea. We don't know if it'll be retroactive at all, either. In any case, I'm thinking that as a badge community we need to pick our battles better.
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If it's not retroactive, then god yes, go for it, but i don't want guys I just made getting the 1 year badge... maybe it's just me misunderstanding what Posi was saying... A difinet possibility i'm afraid. heh.
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I don't see that it is a big deal. I have some characters that I deleted and rerolled to take advantage of new, more appropriate powersets. Technically, they existed beforehand, but we can't transfer badges. Both Pallas Athena and the Bocor should have all the badges, but I rerolled them so that they could have the powersets they were meant to have (Pallas Athena - Shield, the Bocor - Villain).
The way I see it, making the Anniversary badges account wide kills one of the few valid arguments in support of a "full" respec.
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I have one older alt character that was stuck and would just have a light blue background everytime I attempted to log him in near the end of the 2nd Anniversary. I petitioned, but he didn't end up getting moved until after the event.
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That "login glitch" you described has only happened to me twice since I started playing CoH. Unfortunately the last time it happened was to my main badger just as I13 went live which means she lost about two months worth of Day Job credit (she lost the time the game was allowing people to save up prior to I13 if they didn't log in). I know I'll make it up eventually but it's ironic the game seems to screw people over just at the critical moment that way. 
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While I like how the Anniversary badges can currently kind of tell you "how old" an individual character is I don't think I'd be real upset if these badges became account based. Making them account based would certainly solve the "have to log in dozens of alts" hassle some people have.
My guess (and this is purely a guess) is that if this change happened it would NOT be retroactive.
But once again I would not really be upset if they figured out how to award them retroactively anyway.
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I'm pretty much in the same boat here. The anniversary badges were designed during a time that precluded Vet badges, and were meant to show a given toon's presence during an anniversary period. That's the "design", which is fine with me, and makes sense. Vet badges fill in the "global account" call.
If they did do this, however, it wouldn't faze me. It would just make the anniversary badges feel a touch more homogenized, that's all. I just don't see why a Soldier of Arachnos would qualify for the 1st anniversary badge, for instance.
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While I like how the Anniversary badges can currently kind of tell you "how old" an individual character is I don't think I'd be real upset if these badges became account based. Making them account based would certainly solve the "have to log in dozens of alts" hassle some people have.
My guess (and this is purely a guess) is that if this change happened it would NOT be retroactive.
But once again I would not really be upset if they figured out how to award them retroactively anyway.
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I'm pretty much in the same boat here. The anniversary badges were designed during a time that precluded Vet badges, and were meant to show a given toon's presence during an anniversary period. That's the "design", which is fine with me, and makes sense. Vet badges fill in the "global account" call.
If they did do this, however, it wouldn't faze me. It would just make the anniversary badges feel a touch more homogenized, that's all. I just don't see why a Soldier of Arachnos would qualify for the 1st anniversary badge, for instance.
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Thematically, the Rogue Isles "existed" during the 1st Anniversary. Just because they weren't 'playable' then, doesn't mean they just poofed into existence in the fictional, Co* universe, during Issue 5 (or 6, can't remember exactly).
This is another of those questions that's easily answered by considering the opposite setup.
What if anniversary badges were account-based originally? They had the tech, it's no different than VIP.
Now if they had started account-wide, would we be hearing the people who want them character-specific? Would that option ever get off the ground? "I think characters should lose this badge if they didn't actually exist at the time."
Not every situation falls into this easy analysis, but in this case it's so obviously better the other way that this helps illustrate it.
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To be honest I've never really liked the idea of these badges in the first place. They are clearly "player" badges that don't have anything to do with the individual characters themselves. I think of them this way: Why would Superman get a badge for the anniversary of the founding of Metropolis? The anniversary of Metropolis has nothing directly to do with anything Superman did so why give him a badge for it? Thus based on my reasoning that these badges are semi-pointless to characters anyway the Devs might as well make them account based.
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I can definitely see that I, indeed, am in the minority, but will quick reply anyway I think I disagree with what you say here. I think they're definitely character based and NOT player based. The character gets the Anniversary badge because he/she was present during this time. Players get Vet badges for simply being players.
I feel, as they are currently, they make certain characters unique. Granted I could be bias as my badger has all Anniversary badges. I don't, however, see how a character made today would have celebrated the past 5 years of something's existence.
Those are just my thoughts. I sort of see both sides of the story, and this is simply mine Thanks.
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Gods, I would love this change. I spent 45 minutes last night logging in three servers worth of characters for the badge, and moving them to new Day Jobs while I was at it. I know I don't have to do it often, but it basically negated the play time I had. And after I logged I realized I had completely forgotten Champion So there's another server full to do tonight.
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What if anniversary badges were account-based originally? They had the tech, it's no different than VIP.
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Close, but I don't think it is exactly the same.
All the pre-Issue 14 account wide badges looked for something outside the game to award. Either a serial code (VIP/Destined One and Pocket Gold Club) or Vet Reward tied to account date.
Only with Issue 14 did we get global account badges that could be earned through player actions in game. Even then they had a few problems like the Early Bird badge not always awarding globally (likely a server reset issue).
Now that they have worked out most of the bugs, it might be possible to award retro-actively for those that want it while keeping people like the original poster happy.
What if the badge did not award until the badge was awarded naturally (log in during event date) OR selected as a title at least once? This way those that don't want it on all characters can be happy, while those that would like it on all characters will be happy.
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I hope to heck it is retroactive if done. I also hope that there will be an account badges tab made.
I would say that those that oppose the anniversary badges being made global are in a very small minority.
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I oppose it simply on the grounds that if they cave on that, it gives the whiners who dont have the early anniversary badges a better leg to stand on in demanding that they be given the 1st and 2nd anniversary badges.
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What if the badge did not award until the badge was awarded naturally (log in during event date) OR selected as a title at least once? This way those that don't want it on all characters can be happy, while those that would like it on all characters will be happy.
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How would you mechanically provide an interface to allow the player to "select" the title for the badge if the badge hadn't been awarded yet? It sounds like you'd need some form of placeholder badge just for the optional badge trigger, similar to the veteran award badges (I'm assuming using /settitle commands themselves would not be considered an elegant solution for most players).
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If it's not retroactive, then I'm not interested. My badger was created about 3 weeks after the 1st anniversary badge went off the live servers. My account was active long before that.
With the 5th Column gladiator, that's two badges I can't get for that character and I want them.
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What if the badge did not award until the badge was awarded naturally (log in during event date) OR selected as a title at least once? This way those that don't want it on all characters can be happy, while those that would like it on all characters will be happy.
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How would you mechanically provide an interface to allow the player to "select" the title for the badge if the badge hadn't been awarded yet?
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<headdesk> If the badge has not been awarded, then the first character that logs into the event sets the flag for all future characters (ie. going forward). Admittedly, this will annoy the minority that only want the badges on the characters that log into the event.
The other option is to have an option "Allow badges to be awarded globally. Yes/No"
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It sounds like you'd need some form of placeholder badge just for the optional badge trigger, similar to the veteran award badges (I'm assuming using /settitle commands themselves would not be considered an elegant solution for most players).
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How about opening the badge window and click on the badge? The /settitle command isn't required.
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What if anniversary badges were account-based originally? They had the tech, it's no different than VIP.
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Close, but I don't think it is exactly the same.
All the pre-Issue 14 account wide badges looked for something outside the game to award. Either a serial code (VIP/Destined One and Pocket Gold Club) or Vet Reward tied to account date.
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Passport is account-wide and was triggered behind the scenes as part of the transfer. Triggering a similar badge during a date range could have been done.
What I14 added was the ability to track *progress* from multiple characters on the same account.
course, that doesn't at all relate to the point of a hypothetical. How about "what if they had coded that back in I2?"
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What if anniversary badges were account-based originally? They had the tech, it's no different than VIP.
Now if they had started account-wide, would we be hearing the people who want them character-specific? Would that option ever get off the ground? "I think characters should lose this badge if they didn't actually exist at the time."
Not every situation falls into this easy analysis, but in this case it's so obviously better the other way that this helps illustrate it.
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I can only speak for me, but yeah, i'd prolly make the argument then too. In my eyes, the aniversity badges are charater badges. they are awarded to heros/villians that exisist at the time. It wouldn't make since to have a one year badge on my newest guy.. a BA/Shields scrapper... shields wasn't even IN game until 3 years after the A1 badge.
It would bug me. But i'm a tad ocd that way. Again, this isn't one of them BIG deals for me. Just an annoyince really. I LIKE the fact that Zero G, my first guy, has all the aniverisity badges, and other heros don't. It shows that Zero G was hear from day, well, at the very least year 1. That will be lose if the change is retoractive. I'd be sad, but not, like, angry or anything. it was something i was quite proud of, that i stuck with these guys as long as i did.
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What if anniversary badges were account-based originally? They had the tech, it's no different than VIP.
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Close, but I don't think it is exactly the same.
All the pre-Issue 14 account wide badges looked for something outside the game to award. Either a serial code (VIP/Destined One and Pocket Gold Club) or Vet Reward tied to account date.
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Passport is account-wide and was triggered behind the scenes as part of the transfer. Triggering a similar badge during a date range could have been done.
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Passport was for logging into the PlayNC account and switching to the European servers. Again, this is external to the game.
Now if you are saying that having an active account earns progress, then every single account that existed before the first anniversary would have the first badge as there was a free-play weekend during it.
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course, that doesn't at all relate to the point of a hypothetical. How about "what if they had coded that back in I2?"
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Of course not as the answer would be "all active accounts during those periods have the badge(s)."
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It sounds like you'd need some form of placeholder badge just for the optional badge trigger, similar to the veteran award badges (I'm assuming using /settitle commands themselves would not be considered an elegant solution for most players).
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How about opening the badge window and click on the badge? The /settitle command isn't required.
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What I'm not getting here is that since the only time people can do that is if they already have the badge, what action are you suggesting selecting the title ought to perform? It can't be to award the badge for that character, since that character can't click on a badge they don't have yet, and doesn't need to click on a badge they already have.
Unless, as I mentioned, there exists somewhere (for example, in an "Account-wide" tab) where the badge exists that the player can click on, that would award the badge to that character specifically, even if they don't actually have that badge awarded to that character yet (i.e. a placeholder). Analogous to how veteran bonuses are awarded, where the bonus is technically awarded to the entire account, but have to be "retrieved" for each character independently (with the consequence that the player can decide when and if each character should receive the award).
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- Log into a character with the badge.
- Open up the badge window.
- Click on the events tab (unless new "account badges" tab is made in which case open that instead), click on existing badge.
- Game now (after change) understands that your account should have the badge and sets the flag on the account to award it to all characters from that point on.
This is analogous to having to having to log into the test server with a level 50 to open an epic AT.
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I would prefer it stayed as is.
I have that badge on "3" of my chars. I am proud of the fact that I have kept them, and played them from launch.
I would prefer it stay as a char badge, and not a account wide badge, simply because my other chars "Didn't Earn It", in my eyes.
With Posi saying he's looking to have the Aniversity Badges be account wide instead of Charater spefic?
I know he said he wasn't sure it could happen or not, but, well, I LIKE the fact I only have 4 guys out of around 30 active alts that have the year 1 badge. And a few have the year 2's... all the rookies have only the year 5's.
I mean... we have vet badges that show how long you as a person have had an active account, but the aniverisity badges IMO show how long THAT hero or villan has been around.
I'd be bummed to lose that. Am i alone?
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