Deja Vue once again.......... im sure.
By
Barata,
Posted on: 2009-05-27 08:26 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
I know what you mean - I bought Monopoly and had some friends over, but then they all wanted me to play by the rules. I was all like, "I paid for this game, so we'll play the way I want to!"
The weird part is how bad they suck at Monopoly. I always win.
Larry Jablonski
Infinity Server
Arc Name: Old Folks Home
Arc ID: 261041
Synopsis: The Octogenician can control minds, but only of people over 80. He's taken an old folks home hostage. Beat up old folks screaming about the good ol' days to defeat the Octogenician!
Ignore me - I'm just being snarky.
Larry Jablonski
Infinity Server
Arc Name: Old Folks Home
Arc ID: 261041
Synopsis: The Octogenician can control minds, but only of people over 80. He's taken an old folks home hostage. Beat up old folks screaming about the good ol' days to defeat the Octogenician!
Please rephrase this in the form of an Open Letter.
Or use one of the official farming threads.
Either way is cool.
Agua Man lvl 48 Water/Electric Blaster
"To die hating NCSoft for shutting down City of Heroes, that was Freedom."
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Please rephrase this in the form of an Open Letter.
Or use one of the official farming threads.
Either way is cool.
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I've never been retroactively banned out of the game for rerolling my dices while I was a kid playing Monopoly with my parents.
This poor education is obviously why now I'm an evil powergamer using exploits in video games and causing the downfall of human society as we know it.
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this thread is staying here ............... im tired of moving this idea just because some dork keeps saying "THERES AN OFFICIAL THREAD for that ................ im done moving it ......... either agree or disagree or ignore it ......
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this thread is staying here ............... im tired of moving this idea just because some dork keeps saying "THERES AN OFFICIAL THREAD for that ................ im done moving it ......... either agree or disagree or ignore it ......
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The official thread is there for a reason. It's to keep people from flooding the forums with the same thing over and over again.
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I know what you mean - I bought Monopoly and had some friends over, but then they all wanted me to play by the rules. I was all like, "I paid for this game, so we'll play the way I want to!"
The weird part is how bad they suck at Monopoly. I always win.
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Same as in real life. If one person at the table starts with 80% of the money, how often will one of the others win a game?
See: U.S. Econ 101
There is no such thing as an "innocent bystander"
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Please rephrase this in the form of an Open Letter.
Or use one of the official farming threads.
Either way is cool.
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Don't forget the closed letter to all the haters
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this thread is staying here ............... im tired of moving this idea just because some dork keeps saying "THERES AN OFFICIAL THREAD for that ................ im done moving it ......... either agree or disagree or ignore it ......
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You might be tired of moving it...but I'm sure the mods are WAY more tired.
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After a month I was lvl 16 running in the hollows.
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And on a scrapper. lrn2ply comes to mind. 
I'd want to sit in on a mission, do nothing and watch the xp tick by too. Oh, wait. No I wouldn't.
lolfarmz 
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Stop looking at pling , or farming as a bad thing. I personally have "payed my dues" with getting 5 characters to 50 doing teaming and soloing and all that. So my last 7 that I got to 50, I did pling and tfs. THIS WAS NEVER A BAD THING TO ME and was AN OPTION THAT I WANTED! I pay for this game just like everyone else, and if I don't want to spend months grinding a way to get a toon to 50 then I shouldn't have to.
I get on the forums and all I see is "farm bashing". Im grown and have 2 jobs. I dont wanna spend the remaining hours of my day getting 3 bars.
Farming allows me to put sooooooo much on the market. And I put it there for cheap too. It helps me help the economy of our game. Pling isn't bad. Any "character builders" know that getting a toon to 50 is pretty much just step number one. The recipes are the next step. Of the which, recipes are impossible to afford if a player just runs through contacts. I just did it with my ma/shield scrapper. After a month I was lvl 16 running in the hollows. Grinding out missions is for people that are new and people that actually prefer to run stories. It should not be the only method of game play.
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/signed
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this thread is staying here ............... im tired of moving this idea just because some dork keeps saying "THERES AN OFFICIAL THREAD for that ................ im done moving it ......... either agree or disagree or ignore it ......
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You might be tired of moving it...but I'm sure the mods are WAY more tired.
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IBTD+1
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I know what you mean - I bought Monopoly and had some friends over, but then they all wanted me to play by the rules. I was all like, "I paid for this game, so we'll play the way I want to!"
The weird part is how bad they suck at Monopoly. I always win.
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hahaha that was awesome
Volt Sentinel Reference
Thunder is good, thunder is impressive, but lightning does the work.
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I know what you mean - I bought Monopoly and had some friends over, but then they all wanted me to play by the rules. I was all like, "I paid for this game, so we'll play the way I want to!"
The weird part is how bad they suck at Monopoly. I always win.
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I'm personally a fan of changing all of my money for smaller denominations once I get enough cash, to make it hard for other players to get change back from the bank. "Oh sorry, we don't have change for $500, sorry."
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Stop looking at pling , or farming as a bad thing. I personally have "payed my dues" with getting 5 characters to 50 doing teaming and soloing and all that. So my last 7 that I got to 50, I did pling and tfs. THIS WAS NEVER A BAD THING TO ME and was AN OPTION THAT I WANTED! I pay for this game just like everyone else, and if I don't want to spend months grinding a way to get a toon to 50 then I shouldn't have to.
I get on the forums and all I see is "farm bashing". Im grown and have 2 jobs. I dont wanna spend the remaining hours of my day getting 3 bars.
Farming allows me to put sooooooo much on the market. And I put it there for cheap too. It helps me help the economy of our game. Pling isn't bad. Any "character builders" know that getting a toon to 50 is pretty much just step number one. The recipes are the next step. Of the which, recipes are impossible to afford if a player just runs through contacts. I just did it with my ma/shield scrapper. After a month I was lvl 16 running in the hollows. Grinding out missions is for people that are new and people that actually prefer to run stories. It should not be the only method of game play.
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The fact that you have posted this rant shows that you have absolutely no idea what is going on. Farming isn't the problem. Heck, powerleveling isn't really the problem. The "problem" is doing both of these things in the Mission Architect.
In the run up to Architect's release, at the time of the Architect's release, in the release notes, and in the tutorial, we are warned that the Architect is not for farming. Those that persist in using the Architect to create farms will suffer consequences. That consequences have been handed out is the source of the current firestorm.
It is fabulous that you have "paid your dues." I fully support your desire to powerlevel past the "boring stuff." Before the Architect, if you wanted to powerlevel, you went to Grandville or Peregrine Island. It used to be that a new player would not be exposed to powerleveling unless they sought it out. This was a workable system.
Now, people are out there advertising powerlevel farms in every single zone, especially the beginner zones where it is easy to build a team of 8 and reap tons of XP. The problem is that new players are being drafted into these teams. You may be sick of the Hollows, but by inviting a new player into a powerlevel farm, you don't even give them a chance to see whether or not they like it before you take them past it. You have handed them a tray full of powers that they don't really know how to use.And once they learn to use them, they have all of our rich endgame in front of them. Part of the problem is that our "rich endgame" consists of two raids and four, soon to be six, taskforces, and going back and doing the things you missed in Ouroboros. You have taken them to the level cap and given them an easy button before they have become invested in the game. This quickly leads to boredom and a short subscription. Powerleveling new players is bad, and may the fleas of a thousand camels infest the armpits of anyone who powerlevels a newbie straight out of Outbreak or Breakout.
The other negative effect of farms in the Architect is that they clog up the system and make it difficult to actually find stories.
There is no witch hunt against farmers or powerlevelers. It is a very targeted hunt against farming and powerleveling through the Mission Architect.
And really, a month to level 16? On a Scrapper?
New story arcs coming soon (ARC IDs will be aded when I finish the arc):
So, you want to join the Hellions? (level 1-14 Villainous arc)
Sparks & Steel (level 5-20 Heroic arc)
and
So you want to join the Skulls? (level 1-14 Villainous arc)
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There is no witch hunt against farmers or powerlevelers. It is a very targeted hunt against farming and powerleveling through the Mission Architect.
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As much as I hate to disagree and add fuel to the fire.. *sigh* the recent philosophy change of no more "Kill x" badges and the possible change to "Kill x" badges would seem to indicate that they want to shift away from having to farm content.
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As much as I hate to disagree and add fuel to the fire.. *sigh* the recent philosophy change of no more "Kill x" badges and the possible change to "Kill x" badges would seem to indicate that they want to shift away from having to farm content.
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And this is bad because....?
I see this as a positive shift back towards "casual" play, and away from the MMO "grind". I don't see a problem here. Anything that allows me to feel as if my game is a GAME rather than a part time job is fine with me.
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this thread is staying here ............... im tired of moving this idea just because some dork keeps saying "THERES AN OFFICIAL THREAD for that ................ im done moving it ......... either agree or disagree or ignore it ......
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I choose neither.
Are you sure you're an adult? You just used the word "dork".
If you're an adult, I dare you to use the term "Bork" in a sentence correctly and tell me the origins of the phrase.
And erroneous use of capitalization will count as points off your final score.
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As much as I hate to disagree and add fuel to the fire.. *sigh* the recent philosophy change of no more "Kill x" badges and the possible change to "Kill x" badges would seem to indicate that they want to shift away from having to farm content.
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And this is bad because....?
I see this as a positive shift back towards "casual" play, and away from the MMO "grind". I don't see a problem here. Anything that allows me to feel as if my game is a GAME rather than a part time job is fine with me.
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It's mostly that it's 5 years after the fact and that the philosophical change was announced soon after the MA farming "discussion" debacle.
To the OP...
Put this post in this thread.
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Uphir - 50 Fire/Fire/Fire Blaster
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There is no witch hunt against farmers or powerlevelers. It is a very targeted hunt against farming and powerleveling through the Mission Architect.
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As much as I hate to disagree and add fuel to the fire.. *sigh* the recent philosophy change of no more "Kill x" badges and the possible change to "Kill x" badges would seem to indicate that they want to shift away from having to farm content.
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So far, I have only heard of this shift in philosophy as it relates to the Architect. Removing these kill badges removes another incentive to create farms in the Architect, which is in line with the philosophy behind the architect from the beginning.
New story arcs coming soon (ARC IDs will be aded when I finish the arc):
So, you want to join the Hellions? (level 1-14 Villainous arc)
Sparks & Steel (level 5-20 Heroic arc)
and
So you want to join the Skulls? (level 1-14 Villainous arc)
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Stop looking at pling , or farming as a bad thing. I personally have "payed my dues" with getting 5 characters to 50 doing teaming and soloing and all that. So my last 7 that I got to 50, I did pling and tfs. THIS WAS NEVER A BAD THING TO ME and was AN OPTION THAT I WANTED! I pay for this game just like everyone else, and if I don't want to spend months grinding a way to get a toon to 50 then I shouldn't have to.
I get on the forums and all I see is "farm bashing". Im grown and have 2 jobs. I dont wanna spend the remaining hours of my day getting 3 bars.
Farming allows me to put sooooooo much on the market. And I put it there for cheap too. It helps me help the economy of our game. Pling isn't bad. Any "character builders" know that getting a toon to 50 is pretty much just step number one. The recipes are the next step. Of the which, recipes are impossible to afford if a player just runs through contacts. I just did it with my ma/shield scrapper. After a month I was lvl 16 running in the hollows. Grinding out missions is for people that are new and people that actually prefer to run stories. It should not be the only method of game play.
one
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The fact that you have posted this rant shows that you have absolutely no idea what is going on. Farming isn't the problem. Heck, powerleveling isn't really the problem. The "problem" is doing both of these things in the Mission Architect.
In the run up to Architect's release, at the time of the Architect's release, in the release notes, and in the tutorial, we are warned that the Architect is not for farming. Those that persist in using the Architect to create farms will suffer consequences. That consequences have been handed out is the source of the current firestorm.
It is fabulous that you have "paid your dues." I fully support your desire to powerlevel past the "boring stuff." Before the Architect, if you wanted to powerlevel, you went to Grandville or Peregrine Island. It used to be that a new player would not be exposed to powerleveling unless they sought it out. This was a workable system.
Now, people are out there advertising powerlevel farms in every single zone, especially the beginner zones where it is easy to build a team of 8 and reap tons of XP. The problem is that new players are being drafted into these teams. You may be sick of the Hollows, but by inviting a new player into a powerlevel farm, you don't even give them a chance to see whether or not they like it before you take them past it. You have handed them a tray full of powers that they don't really know how to use.And once they learn to use them, they have all of our rich endgame in front of them. Part of the problem is that our "rich endgame" consists of two raids and four, soon to be six, taskforces, and going back and doing the things you missed in Ouroboros. You have taken them to the level cap and given them an easy button before they have become invested in the game. This quickly leads to boredom and a short subscription. Powerleveling new players is bad, and may the fleas of a thousand camels infest the armpits of anyone who powerlevels a newbie straight out of Outbreak or Breakout.
The other negative effect of farms in the Architect is that they clog up the system and make it difficult to actually find stories.
There is no witch hunt against farmers or powerlevelers. It is a very targeted hunt against farming and powerleveling through the Mission Architect.
And really, a month to level 16? On a Scrapper?
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I do not need to read any more of this thread. Win. OP, read this and then go to PI or GV.
Eco.
MArcs:
The Echo, Arc ID 1688 (5mish, easy, drama)
The Audition, Arc ID 221240 (6 mish, complex mech, comedy)
Storming Citadel, Arc ID 379488 (lowbie, 1mish, 10-min timed)
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[The Incarnate System is] Jack Emmert all over again, only this time it's not "1 hero = 3 white minions" it's "1 hero = 3 white rocks."
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Stop looking at pling , or farming as a bad thing. I personally have "payed my dues" with getting 5 characters to 50 doing teaming and soloing and all that. So my last 7 that I got to 50, I did pling and tfs. THIS WAS NEVER A BAD THING TO ME and was AN OPTION THAT I WANTED! I pay for this game just like everyone else, and if I don't want to spend months grinding a way to get a toon to 50 then I shouldn't have to.
I get on the forums and all I see is "farm bashing". Im grown and have 2 jobs. I dont wanna spend the remaining hours of my day getting 3 bars.
Farming allows me to put sooooooo much on the market. And I put it there for cheap too. It helps me help the economy of our game. Pling isn't bad. Any "character builders" know that getting a toon to 50 is pretty much just step number one. The recipes are the next step. Of the which, recipes are impossible to afford if a player just runs through contacts. I just did it with my ma/shield scrapper. After a month I was lvl 16 running in the hollows. Grinding out missions is for people that are new and people that actually prefer to run stories. It should not be the only method of game play.
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Why do you grind at all? I don't understand why anyone would want to grind.
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Stop looking at pling , or farming as a bad thing. I personally have "payed my dues" with getting 5 characters to 50 doing teaming and soloing and all that. So my last 7 that I got to 50, I did pling and tfs. THIS WAS NEVER A BAD THING TO ME and was AN OPTION THAT I WANTED! I pay for this game just like everyone else, and if I don't want to spend months grinding a way to get a toon to 50 then I shouldn't have to.
I get on the forums and all I see is "farm bashing". Im grown and have 2 jobs. I dont wanna spend the remaining hours of my day getting 3 bars.
Farming allows me to put sooooooo much on the market. And I put it there for cheap too. It helps me help the economy of our game. Pling isn't bad. Any "character builders" know that getting a toon to 50 is pretty much just step number one. The recipes are the next step. Of the which, recipes are impossible to afford if a player just runs through contacts. I just did it with my ma/shield scrapper. After a month I was lvl 16 running in the hollows. Grinding out missions is for people that are new and people that actually prefer to run stories. It should not be the only method of game play.
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