New Level Pact Squad to face the Toughest in CoH
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Posted on: 2009-05-22 19:36 in The Market and Inventions
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This thread isn't about schooling folks in debate, it's about Smurphy's plans to better optimize his playing of this game through the means he's outlined in his posts in this thread.
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Then why the need to try and directly address the NcSoft employees?
What you describe doesn't require that being repeated twice in the same thread.
Please reconcile those things, then I'll believe you.
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Also, money's tight for me on Freedom. Do you take I.O.U.'s, Smurphy?
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I think it'd be funny if Smurph accepted indentured servitude in lieu of payment- labor in his farms until your drops pay off your debt.
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This thread isn't about schooling folks in debate, it's about Smurphy's plans to better optimize his playing of this game through the means he's outlined in his posts in this thread.
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Then why the need to try and directly address the NcSoft employees?
What you describe doesn't require that being repeated twice in the same thread.
Please reconcile those things, then I'll believe you.
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Can't say nobody told you.
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This thread isn't about schooling folks in debate, it's about Smurphy's plans to better optimize his playing of this game through the means he's outlined in his posts in this thread.
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Then why the need to try and directly address the NcSoft employees?
What you describe doesn't require that being repeated twice in the same thread.
Please reconcile those things, then I'll believe you.
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Um where does he directly address the mods? All i see is a vague reference to them and if they would alert him to it being wrong.
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Also, money's tight for me on Freedom. Do you take I.O.U.'s, Smurphy?
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I think it'd be funny if Smurph accepted indentured servitude in lieu of payment- labor in his farms until your drops pay off your debt.
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For a minute there, I thought indentured servitude was something graphic and explicit and not something I could post about ... until I looked it up. Sorry, the mind wanders.
Hrm. Dear Devs: New market object: Indentured Servant.
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This thread isn't about schooling folks in debate, it's about Smurphy's plans to better optimize his playing of this game through the means he's outlined in his posts in this thread.
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Then why the need to try and directly address the NcSoft employees?
What you describe doesn't require that being repeated twice in the same thread.
Please reconcile those things, then I'll believe you.
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Um where does he directly address the mods? All i see is a vague reference to them and if they would alert him to it being wrong.
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I'm sure a reasonable person would be able to easily understand that I am merely stating my plans with the understanding if my plans were deemed in violation of a rule that I would be notified. I'm sure a reasonable person would understand the desire to conform their behavior to acceptable practices. I'm sure no reasonable person would fault another for simply being open and honest about their plans of future action that are intended to be within stated rules of play.
In light of being open and honest about my methods of providing services to level pact customers I feel that I should further explain some of the techniques I use when playing various teams. I feel that players should know exactly how I operate when playing and that I am adaptable to many different styles. I am capable of playing multiple characters at the same time. This picture is intended to give you a better understanding of my method.
One team I play consists of a Fire/Kin Controller, 2 Fire/Sonics and 2 FIre/Force Field controllers. I place the FFers and the Sonics on follow on the Kinetics. I have the FFers/Sonics turn on all their toggles and autofire Fire Cages through the Kinetics. Then I play the Kinetics to the full potential and cease to give any more instructions to the other 4 characters.
When I play my Thug/Storm Masterminds I designate one the "leader" and the others "followers". I summon all of my Thugs and upgrade them. I set my "followers" to follow the "leader". The followers all set the Enforcers and Bruiser to aggressive. The leader stays in full bodyguard. I sometimes have Electrifying Fences or Lightning Storm on autofire. I fire Freezing Rain on each and every character in waves. I divide my team into two parts. So if there are 5 players on the team I may fire 2 Freezing Rains on the first pack then fire 3 Freezing Rains from the other 3 MMs on the next pack. I manually have to click on each window and the location of Freezing Rain to execute the power on each character.
Another team I play is a duo of two Empathy/Sonic Defenders. I need to be sufficiently focused and well practiced to execute playing these two characters at the same time. I find it difficult to explain the exact speed and detail that I use. I may provide a video at a later date. I have two CoH clients in windowed mode side by side. I have one Defender follow the other. I have both autofiring either Scream or Screech. I nearly fully play both characters, using both their primary and secondary powers to the utmost ability of both characters. One character simply follows and targets through the other while executing all of the other powers. I reach the character's full potential by essentially doubling each time I execute a power and adding a "click" in between. Here is an example of the buttons I may be pressing:
Emp A: Shift-2; Control-1; Click Emp B
(Target Emp #2, Fortitude, switch to other character)
Emp B: Shift-1; Control-1; Click Emp A
(Target Emp #1, Fort, switch)
Emp A: Tab, 2, 3, click B
(Target an enemy, autofires fire, execute attack #2, queue attack #3, switch)
Emp B: 2, 3, Click A
Emp A: Shift-3; Control-1; Click B
(Fort a teammate)
Emp B: Shift-3; Control-1; Click A
Emp A; W-A-S-D; 4, 5, 2, Click B
(Position myself, Aim, Howl, Queue Screech, Switch)
Emp B; 4, 5, 2, Click A
I execute these powers very rapidly. Other than the following an observer would not be able to notice I am playing two characters simultaneously. In fact sometimes I execute different powers on each just to "show off." I haven't gotten down Fortituding different targets on each Defender. I always forget who I did last and end up rebuffing people who don't need it and get all confused and lost.
Sometimes I play my Fire/Kin Corruptor and my SS/Fire Brute at the same time. I sometimes play each of these characters completely independantly with no follow and no autofire. I will position the Kinetics near a corner. I have the Brute run and make lots of enemies angry and hide behind the corner. I Fulcrum Shift on the Kinetics when the enemies surround the Brute. I Foot Stomp on the Brute. I Fireball and Rain of Fire on the Corruptor.
That's a lot of work.
I just do /levelup 50 and then go train ... over a period of several hours.
Aeon vs. Television?
Uhm, okay | Get Mashed!I'm Tanking / Bruting so get familiar with my hand signals.
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This thread isn't about schooling folks in debate, it's about Smurphy's plans to better optimize his playing of this game through the means he's outlined in his posts in this thread.
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Then why the need to try and directly address the NcSoft employees?
What you describe doesn't require that being repeated twice in the same thread.
Please reconcile those things, then I'll believe you.
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Um where does he directly address the mods? All i see is a vague reference to them and if they would alert him to it being wrong.
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Oh, I see, if he doesn't literally say the words "And I direct this to you NcSoft Employees:"
but he does say
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I am sure that the NCSoft employees would kindly notify me if such plans are for some reason deemed "not allowed".
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I am also sure that NCSoft employees would be able to kindly explain to me exactly what part of my plan needs to be corrected.
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I'm also sure with this approach that NCSoft employees would be willing to kindly explain to me if this behavior is "not allowed." If this behavior is "not allowed" I am sure that these employees would be willing to kindly explain to me exactly which parts of my plan are "not allowed" so that I may adjust my behavior so that I may act in an "allowed" manner.
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Now, you could make a case that these quotes weren't directed at NcSoft Employees, but you would be wrong. I see three direct references just on page 1. Those don't seem vague at all, or are we coming up with new meanings for the word vague now too?
(You're the one that introduced Mods into the equation. Obvious is obvious. If the preceeding quotes weren't directed at the NcSoft Employees, just who were they directed at? Does someone have to name each one to satisfy your criteria for "directly" addressing someone? Do they have to use the full name, is the use of a middle initial o.k.?)
You see, you can play word games, but the intent is obvious, much like the MA farms themselves were...
Actually yes you would have to name them which i believe is against the EULA
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Actually yes you would have to name them which i believe is against the EULA
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That "Actually yes....."
Isn't actually backed up by anything. It seems like you are splitting hairs to the extreme. I don't think that breaks the EULA, while at the same time, it is obvious that it directly addresses "NCSoft Employees" which you want to claim it didn't...
Because they weren't called out by name...
Really...?
Maybe you could be the one to finally enlighten us as to what the meaning of the word "is" is. 
(I mean, you did decide that to directly address someone you have to use their name with no basis, so I figure you might as well try and make up some more meanings. If you want to dissemble that much, why not just say, no one can actually be directly addressed because in your opinion it has to also take place in person, not just on a message board? Or get metaphysical, can any of us really address another "directly"? There is the lag between an event and our brains ability to process it, while at the same time none of us can truly experience what another has, therefore no direct contact can ever be made!)
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Actually yes you would have to name them which i believe is against the EULA
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That "Actually yes....."
Isn't actually backed up by anything. It seems like you are splitting hairs to the extreme. I don't think that breaks the EULA, while at the same time, it is obvious that it directly addresses "NCSoft Employees" which you want to claim it didn't...
Because they weren't called out by name...
Really...?
Maybe you could be the one to finally enlighten us as to what the meaning of the word "is" is.
(I mean, you did decide that to directly address someone you have to use their name with no basis, so I figure you might as well try and make up some more meanings. If you want to dissemble that much, why not just say, no one can actually be directly addressed because in your opinion it has to also take place in person, not just on a message board? Or get metaphysical, can any of us really address another "directly"? There is the lag between an event and our brains ability to process it, while at the same time none of us can truly experience what another has, therefore no direct contact can ever be made!)
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From merriam-webster:
Direct:
to write (a letter) to a person b: to mark with the name and address of the intended recipient
Directly:
in a direct manner
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Directly:
in a direct manner
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Yes, and nowhere in there does it say you have to use the intended audience's name.
In this case NcSoft Employees was who it was directed at.
As I said so many posts ago, which you somehow tried to twist into only fitting the definition if it broke the EULA, which never had anything to do with it.
Thanks for the proof. 
um you seem to have missed the definition of direct lol
specifically this part: mark with the name and address of the intended recipient
perhaps you should let merriam-webster know they made a mistake
on an aside i told smurphy that if someone argued with a dictionary they would make a fool of them self ....
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This thread isn't about schooling folks in debate, it's about Smurphy's plans to better optimize his playing of this game through the means he's outlined in his posts in this thread.
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Then why the need to try and directly address the NcSoft employees?
What you describe doesn't require that being repeated twice in the same thread.
Please reconcile those things, then I'll believe you.
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It's self-importance masked in grandiosity, seeking to get a 'get out of jail free' card on top of it. 
NCSoft employees don't need to be alerted to anything. If an AE or non-AE mission proves bloatrous in its returns, it will get pulled. If a player abuses (there's that word again) AE or certain missions, it will become common knowledge and that player will get a temp ban.
To me, it seems like an incredible amount of set-up and extraneous expense when I can get heroes or villains PLd by my Vill group or PvP group but...more power to those that can find this interesting.
@Philly:
Dictionaries are great but usage and common sense prevail at times as well.
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NCSoft employees don't need to be alerted to anything. If an AE or non-AE mission proves bloatrous in its returns, it will get pulled. If a player abuses (there's that word again) AE or certain missions, it will become common knowledge and that player will get a temp ban.
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I am sure that you are an astute and intelligent individual. Would you please be so kind as to point out if YOU personally feel that any of my plans are considered "abuse"? I'm sure that a rational and reasonable person such as yourself would have no problem with someone who is truly, honestly, and openly attempting not to cause any "abuse."
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um you seem to have missed the definition of direct lol
specifically this part: mark with the name and address of the intended recipient
perhaps you should let merriam-webster know they made a mistake
on an aside i told smurphy that if someone argued with a dictionary they would make a fool of them self ....
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Just an FYI....
When a dictionary has two listings for a word, you don't have to use both.
Otherwise... you might think I look foolish arguing with a dictionary, but I think it looks a might bit more foolish not knowing how to properly use one.
Have a nice day.
Awesome idea Smurphy! I'd be happy to roll up any AT on any server and join in this noble endeavor.
Wow just wow um I gave you both definitions cause the definition of the one refers you to the other word but wow you live in your own little world. Your logic astounds me and your complete lack of common sense is just well i think i lowered my IQ just trying to comprehend it. Taking everyone's advice and placing you on ignore before i loose my sanity trying to contemplate yours. I thought it was bizarre getting pm's from people i don't know about you now i see they were wise.
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Wow just wow um I gave you both definitions cause the definition of the one refers you to the other word but wow you live in your own little world. Your logic astounds me and your complete lack of common sense is just well i think i lowered my IQ just trying to comprehend it. Taking everyone's advice and placing you on ignore before i loose my sanity trying to contemplate yours. I thought it was bizarre getting pm's from people i don't know about you now i see they were wise.
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Confirmed: You still haven't figured out that if there are two defintinons that they are both acceptable uses, and the one that I was referring to was the second.
oy, from the looks of things, you better put me on ignore, your IQ couldn't stand to get much lower.
Edit: not to mention I wasn't the only one to correct you.
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@Philly:
Dictionaries are great but usage and common sense prevail at times as well.
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Guess your ignore list will grow, maybe someday it can be as big as the Goat's list. Such illustrious company.
And I won't even touch the question of why people are too scared to actually speak up in the thread if they think something about me. We have a word for people like that around here, but it will just get filtered out.
go go go Smurph!
THis plan is truely epic, and I endorse it fully. I don't know if I could find the time to get in on this, though D:
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Incidently, the way this forum works, it's usually better to report to moderator any post you feel may violate the rules instead of attacking other users.
Once a post has been reported, it cannot be reported again and will display a notice to that effect.
As the OP has had such a note since yesterday, I'd say further arguing on the rightness or wrongness of it is moot.
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If you haven't joined a global channel, you're not really looking for team.
I'm not sure the devs are concerned about a specific team being able to achieve high, or even extremely high, reward rates, even on tailored maps. They are definitely concerned with maps, and especially tailored maps, where anyone can achieve absurdly high reward rates. So taking the MM group through extremely hard boss maps should be fine, since most teams would get eaten alive by them; datamined reward rates for those maps should reveal they're in line with the rest of the game. Hopefully.
The SS/fire+fire/kin duo farming difficult foes who all happen to do fire damage is the real brain twister. That combo lampshades the real weakness of the reward system: it can't really take into account the real effort involved in any given combat because it's pre-determined. I suppose a really finely tuned system would recognize the "rock paper scissors" effects in the game, and reward rock less for beating scissors and more for beating paper, but that's a bit much to ask.
This kind of thing has always existed in the game in "accidental" synergies between primary and secondary, and between teammates on a team, but the effect is boosted greatly when you get to customize your foes as well.
I'm not sure the devs can do better than leave that one alone.
And for a while things were cold,
They were scared down in their holes
The forest that once was green
Was colored black by those killing machines
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The SS/fire+fire/kin duo farming difficult foes who all happen to do fire damage is the real brain twister. That combo lampshades the real weakness of the reward system: it can't really take into account the real effort involved in any given combat because it's pre-determined. I suppose a really finely tuned system would recognize the "rock paper scissors" effects in the game, and reward rock less for beating scissors and more for beating paper, but that's a bit much to ask.
This kind of thing has always existed in the game in "accidental" synergies between primary and secondary, and between teammates on a team, but the effect is boosted greatly when you get to customize your foes as well.
I'm not sure the devs can do better than leave that one alone.
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That's the exact kind of thing I've been wondering since Positron made his announcements regarding the AE abuse. I have a Elec/WP that runs boss only missions of E/N dealing foes with my E/N defense being soft-capped.
That's an even better example, because until you just told me it would never have occurred to me that an elec/WP character could soft-cap E/N defense. There's no way the devs could build in the knowledge of such a combination into the reward system, and even if they did, it would effectively penalize whatever elec/WP out there that didn't soft-cap that defense type.
And for a while things were cold,
They were scared down in their holes
The forest that once was green
Was colored black by those killing machines
This thread isn't about schooling folks in debate, it's about Smurphy's plans to better optimize his playing of this game through the means he's outlined in his posts in this thread.
I'm looking at my roster of toons and deciding which one needs to get the axe to the face. The level 35 Stalker I haven't seriously played in over two years, or ...
Also, money's tight for me on Freedom. Do you take I.O.U.'s, Smurphy?
I'm Tanking / Bruting so get familiar with my hand signals.