Wired und Slashdot
Sheesh they're slow to the drama train.
We're already on to the new hawtness, Going Rogue!
There's another thread about it here.
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This is actually better than the other article I saw on Wired, which flat out said:
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So now, any user-created mission that is exploitative will get deleted, and users who played it will get their XP retroactively lowered, or even lose their character. So what counts as exploitative? One or two of the exploits are pretty obvious, but its really unclear where the line is drawn.
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The whole thing feels like written by a Rikti farmer who is pissed his favorite exploit got nerfed. Way to generate negative press with incorrect information.
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Yeah, and it doesn't look like they bothered doing anything more than asking a competitor - a single one, mind - their opinion, grabbing a quote or two from the forum, and hyping it. (And before anyone bothers, yes, I know he's not with Cryptic. He's still a competitor, and someone not involved with this game.)
I'd call it high school level journalism, but that would be insulting to most high school journalism classes. Very poor showing. I do wish I could say I was surprised.
They even attributed the screenshot of the Architect UI to Cryptic Studios.
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This is actually better than the other article I saw on Wired, which flat out said:
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So now, any user-created mission that is exploitative will get deleted, and users who played it will get their XP retroactively lowered, or even lose their character. So what counts as exploitative? One or two of the exploits are pretty obvious, but its really unclear where the line is drawn.
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The whole thing feels like written by a Rikti farmer who is pissed his favorite exploit got nerfed. Way to generate negative press with incorrect information.
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Uh, what's incorrect about it? That's taken nearly verbatim from Positron's announcement.
Doom.
Yep.
This is really doom.
Sins of omission.
Say we were talking, and you said "Food? I don't like chinese, and Mexican is synonymous with crap.. I'm not against trying out a new place if it's actually that much better, though."
Someone overhears that, and puts out a post about how racist you are, and as proof, uses just this quote:
"I don't like Chinese, and Mexican is synonymous with crap."
Now, yeah, about as realistic a scenario as me taking a bus to mars this weekend, but just because they used part of a quote doesn't mean they're being in the least responsible about it. The quote is, after all, directly from what you said, right?
True but Posi did post a follow up from the announcement.
Seeing as how the article is dated for the 18th and Posi's follow up was on the 7th I find this article lacking.
The wired.com article filled me with lulz. So many lulz. Over 9,000 lulz!
The comments by readers below the article are more interesting to read than the article itself, honestly. Bad journalism practice to be writing about last month's edrama.
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Wired has a new article that... well.. blasts the MA system and suggests that the recent changes will cause players to leave.
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Reread the article. The author is on the side of management and acknowledges that Farming is a result of people's desire for shortcuts and giving them free reign is a bad idea, at least if you want your game to continue and not become a flash in the pan as people burn out on farms and completely maxed out toons.
It acknowledges some player's fears that they don't know where the line is (a most disingenuous statement... people know that leveling to 50 in one day is exploitive) and then explains the bind the management is in if they ever clearly delineate a line.
Your characterization that the article "blasts" the MA system is way off.
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This is actually better than the other article I saw on Wired, which flat out said:
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So now, any user-created mission that is exploitative will get deleted, and users who played it will get their XP retroactively lowered, or even lose their character. So what counts as exploitative? One or two of the exploits are pretty obvious, but its really unclear where the line is drawn.
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The whole thing feels like written by a Rikti farmer who is pissed his favorite exploit got nerfed. Way to generate negative press with incorrect information.
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Uh, what's incorrect about it? That's taken nearly verbatim from Positron's announcement.
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The article bends the words just enough for them to say that users that play any exploitative mission will get their XP retroactively lowered or even lose their character, when Positron said:
"Only the worst of the worst, exploitive, powerlevelled characters will be removed from the game. We dont take retroactive punishments lightly, but some offenses are so egregious that no one would question their intent and those ill-gotten gains should be dealt with."
This is good and well: "any user-created mission that is exploitative will get deleted". But then they jump to saying the players of those user created missions will all be punished/banned, when that is not the case.
To put it more simply: the article paints the devs' stance as unreasonable, draconian and out to screw the players.
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This is what 3700 heroes in a single zone looks like.
Thanks to @EnsonsDeath for the GVE code that made me VIP again!
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Yeah, and it doesn't look like they bothered doing anything more than asking a competitor - a single one, mind - their opinion, grabbing a quote or two from the forum, and hyping it. (And before anyone bothers, yes, I know he's not with Cryptic. He's still a competitor, and someone not involved with this game.)
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Actually, due to piss-poor research in the article, Eric isn't even with Cryptic. He was with the previous company working on Star Trek, Perpetual. He did work on AC2, but that's his only published MMO. But Eric even says as much in the Slashdot discussion that he's not working on Star Trek with Cryptic.
Again, the Wired author did a horrible job researching and checking sources, which really throws a shadow over the article's veracity.
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This is actually better than the other article I saw on Wired, which flat out said:
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So now, any user-created mission that is exploitative will get deleted, and users who played it will get their XP retroactively lowered, or even lose their character. So what counts as exploitative? One or two of the exploits are pretty obvious, but its really unclear where the line is drawn.
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The whole thing feels like written by a Rikti farmer who is pissed his favorite exploit got nerfed. Way to generate negative press with incorrect information.
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it sounds like it was written by someone outside the system who is able to clearly see its flaws.
it's a pretty obvious point to make.
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How is it inappropriate?
The article identifies the majority of players as doing themselves a disservice and constantly cheating themselves out of a great gaming experience. The only negative being noted against the Devs is their inability to define "farming violations" which is a fair criticism.
If anything I think the article points out there's a weird "left of the middle" leveling environment here that needs to be re-centralized. Leaving it "as is" *could* kill the game if players find a more centralized, balanced environment with future competition.
It's all about perceptions - best the devs can do is ask "why" players feel obligated to undercut the leveling process whenever possible and see how they can empower it.
Personally, I think we're all a little bit spoiled by console games which employ a leveling system but move much faster in their own right but who really knows? Certainly Back Alley Brawler and the team have done a great job of speeding up the animations on most powers (and it *has* helped) but what more can be done at this point?
I did spot a comment from Allen Varney in the Slashdot follow-up, whom I remember from SJGames/Space Gamer days....
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I always thought of Allen Varney as a great game supplement writer but an incredibly arrogant, self-absorbed commentator. His The Veiled Society for AD&D's Dark Sun setting ranks among my five favorite RPG works of all time. On the other hand, Varney once spent several pages in a review of a Champions supplement complaining about how anyone who like The Punisher was a psychopath and spent several pages in a review of the Amber game claiming that dice rolls are an abomination. Neither review gave any information about the supplements themselves that I can remember.
I imagine he trashed CoX.
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I imagine he trashed CoX.
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Looks like he trashed a commenter who claimed he could come up with a better system for CoX in two minutes.
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Uh, what's incorrect about it? That's taken nearly verbatim from Positron's announcement.
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Creative replacement of "may" with "will" kind of changes the whole tenor of the thing.
Dec out.
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Looks like he trashed a commenter who claimed he could come up with a better system for CoX in two minutes.
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Well, that's nice. As I said, Varney is good when he's on his game. (I couldn't get this page to load for some reason, myself.)
"Bombarding the CoH/V fora with verbosity since January, 2006"
Djinniman, level 50 inv/fire tanker, on Victory
-and 40 others on various servers
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Varney doesn't add much to the discussion, but does defend CoH/V.
There's no such thing as bad publicity, is there devs? ;-)
Wired has a new article that... well.. blasts the MA system and suggests that the recent changes will cause players to leave.
Slashdot discussion of said article.
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