What has happened to this game? (Freedom)
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Aisynia,
Posted on: 2009-05-15 16:05 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
Maybe it's post count / days since registration ?
You've posted a lot by that formula, given that you've only been regged for just under a year.
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No more than she has in the 3 years she's been registered? About 1/3 of her total count in 1/3 as long.
I think it's (Days registered/Post Count) X How often someone disagrees with her
In which case my total post count would be somewhere around... Infinite. I just can't help but disagree with her. =-3
I'm, like, the Anti-Conforming-Non-Conformist, I think. Which means I'm a well adjusted member of society... Should I change my forum name to Good_Influence? =-3
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I find it funny that I'm -basically- Forum Cartel, since I agree with a lot of the Cartel members. Meanwhile I don't have 1/3 of the posts B_I does.
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That just makes you a mindless sycophant of the Forum Cartel, one of the many faceless drones they send out against anyone who displeases them.
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It's interesting that I myself have been having the exact opposite of your experience. I can see why people get heated about this issue.
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And, have you attempted any of the listed things in this thread to get your experience to match up more with the rest? Because if not, I highly suggest you do. Because the teams are out there, there are plenty of people in the game. If you aren't willing to make your own team by politely sending tells and not being overly picky about your pickup groups, or getting on a supergroup, or a global channel, or in your server forum, ... then that's still exactly like the OP's "problem". Laziness is his problem. I hope it's not yours too.
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Just throwing another factor out there to consider when looking for teams.
Time of day.
Some players only play during odd hours. Like Aussies. (Their prime time is during our morning hours) There are less players online at odd hours. That's not the games fault, nor is it the players fault.
If you play during odd hours you are just going to have to deal with the fact that finding teams is harder.
Yup. This is an American-based game and though it's available to other countries it IS a fact of life that even if you're an English speaker in Australia, South Africa, Singapore, or Europe... we're still playing at another time of day.
Tellyk, you didn't say what server you're on, what time you're playing, redside or blue, etc. I think if you're going to chime in with the "but it's still hard" crowd, speaking up about those things is at least as important as your opinion on the ease of teaming.
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Dude, did you just say that Billz contributes nothing to the community?
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People like you contribute nothing to the community because apparently if the majority disagrees with something initially, it is always wrong.
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Pot... meet kettle.
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And, have you attempted any of the listed things in this thread to get your experience to match up more with the rest? Because if not, I highly suggest you do. Because the teams are out there, there are plenty of people in the game. If you aren't willing to make your own team by politely sending tells and not being overly picky about your pickup groups, or getting on a supergroup, or a global channel, or in your server forum, ... then that's still exactly like the OP's "problem". Laziness is his problem. I hope it's not yours too.
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Not trying to pick on you Zekiran, but these solutions people continually offer are bugging me. People are complaining that they believe it is more difficult to find teams these days because of a perceived lower population -- and others are responding that the population isn't lower, yet informing them that the way they should go about finding teams is through Supergroups and the like.
Isn't that further indication of a lower population?
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Factually, it's an indication of a shift in populace behavior, not populace size.
It's almost impossible to find people to do PuG teaming on anything but loot-desirable instances (meaning general questing) on even the most populated servers in World of Warcraft, but it has nothing to do with there being less or more people. It has to do with what the current population wants to do.
SG/Clan/Guilds are the magic bullet to group finding. It forces a bunch of people to "know" you and feel somewhat obligated to team with you. Kind of like the strange uncle that no one actually wants to talk to but will just because he has genetics similar to yours.
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It's all well and good to cast yourself in the role of the intrepid rebel voice against the quiescent majority, but what you need to recognize is that if the majority is against you then there's an excellent possibility that the majority is correct and that you are mistaken or flat-out wrong.
As the self-proclaimed maverick it's incumbent on you to make your case unshakable so that it can stand against the masses and be proven correct. If you can't do that, either because you don't have the support or because you don't care to do so, then you're going to get the predictable reaction from the community at large and frankly, should expect it to be so.
You've already had many good replies to this thread which have basically said the same thing - it's more than possible to get teams with a little effort (especially if you make use of all the tools available and don't just set your flag and broadcast LFT spam), even in the wake of the Rikti Comm. Officer exploit debacle which had many people doing nothing but exploiting in AE farms. At this point it's not exactly clear where you feel the game or the community has fallen short, except perhaps that it's not what you would like it to be.
Whatever you hope to accomplish, engaging in attacks on individual posters (regardless of whether or not you believe it justified) gets you nowhere.
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Point one: While I no longer do so, the vast majority of my posts came from hanging out in the tech forum doing everything I could to assist other players with their technical issues. That is assisting the community. If, instead, I had 25000 posts of nothing but doom-calling and rants against the "forum cartel," the community as a whole would treat me far differently than they do now.
Going against the majority is a wonderful thing WHEN you do it logically and without needless insults. Many of the changes that have seen fruition in this game came from players armed with reams of factual data and compelling arguments. Both of which are blatantly lacking from the usual suspects in this thread.
An example of how compelling arguments can sway one's opinion can be found right now in the brute forum where I realized after one post from Sarrate that my opinion on doublestacking Active Defense was completely wrong. I recanted my prior post and agreed that Sarrate's opinion was correct. That's how logical and sane discourse is supposed to function.
This game is not lacking farm teams. They are disgustingly easy to find with nothing more than a "padder looking for farm" tell in broadcast. And I come from Pinnacle, one of the lower population servers.
Yes, I judge who deserves disdain and ridicule just as I expect it when I'm being a complete dork. Everyone should. Our society on the whole might raise its IQ some if we all began vocalizing our disgust at idiocy and mediocrity rather than glorifying it with reality TV and a substandard education system.
We all play this game for fun. We all post on the forums for the same reason. Sometimes our opinion of fun differs and as long as the discussion about those opinions stays calm and rational, no one gets belittled or ridiculed.
But when someone starts spewing off about how some evil cabal of forum lurkers attacks all newcomers and suppresses all those that "want nothing more than what's best for the game" then it's time to whip out the mocking-bat and get to swinging.
Or slap them on ignore as non-contributors. Your choice, of course.
Be well, people of CoH.
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It's all well and good to cast yourself in the role of the intrepid rebel voice against the quiescent majority, but what you need to recognize is that if the majority is against you then there's an excellent possibility that the majority is correct and that you are mistaken or flat-out wrong.
As the self-proclaimed maverick it's incumbent on you to make your case unshakable so that it can stand against the masses and be proven correct. If you can't do that, either because you don't have the support or because you don't care to do so, then you're going to get the predictable reaction from the community at large and frankly, should expect it to be so.
You've already had many good replies to this thread which have basically said the same thing - it's more than possible to get teams with a little effort (especially if you make use of all the tools available and don't just set your flag and broadcast LFT spam), even in the wake of the Rikti Comm. Officer exploit debacle which had many people doing nothing but exploiting in AE farms. At this point it's not exactly clear where you feel the game or the community has fallen short, except perhaps that it's not what you would like it to be.
Whatever you hope to accomplish, engaging in attacks on individual posters (regardless of whether or not you believe it justified) gets you nowhere.
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Which brings me back to my 2 main points.
PvP has for a fact diminhed.
I have found in my experiences on Freedom that it is somewhat harder to find a normal team. Ask these forum guys and gals how many of them have teaming experience on Freedom...
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I don't think anyone has disagreed that PVP has diminished. PvE teaming population has not has been the main disagreement.
Almost every post from everyone (on the other forums) indicates the lack of PVP since i13. (not due to architect, but to the decimation of PvP that came with i13)
I also wont track back 33 pages to figure out if anyone that has an investment in PvP play said PvP is more populated.
As far as server PVP.. Infinity always seems like a ghost town to me when I bop in to look at the PvP maps. I don't PvP at all myself, but I like badges.
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It's all well and good to cast yourself in the role of the intrepid rebel voice against the quiescent majority, but what you need to recognize is that if the majority is against you then there's an excellent possibility that the majority is correct and that you are mistaken or flat-out wrong.
As the self-proclaimed maverick it's incumbent on you to make your case unshakable so that it can stand against the masses and be proven correct. If you can't do that, either because you don't have the support or because you don't care to do so, then you're going to get the predictable reaction from the community at large and frankly, should expect it to be so.
You've already had many good replies to this thread which have basically said the same thing - it's more than possible to get teams with a little effort (especially if you make use of all the tools available and don't just set your flag and broadcast LFT spam), even in the wake of the Rikti Comm. Officer exploit debacle which had many people doing nothing but exploiting in AE farms. At this point it's not exactly clear where you feel the game or the community has fallen short, except perhaps that it's not what you would like it to be.
Whatever you hope to accomplish, engaging in attacks on individual posters (regardless of whether or not you believe it justified) gets you nowhere.
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Which brings me back to my 2 main points.
PvP has for a fact diminhed.
I have found in my experiences on Freedom that it is somewhat harder to find a normal team. Ask these forum guys and gals how many of them have teaming experience on Freedom...
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Okay, point 1 - PvP is less popular / "has diminished". Yes, obviously. A number of the prominent PvPers and even whole PvP SGs were, shall we say, less than happy with the I13 changes to PvP and stopped PvPing or left the game entirely. Since the new PvP is still in the process of being born, I'd say it's to be expected that it'll be slow to gain new proponents. So yes, there's less PvP.
As for "it's harder to find a team", especially on Freedom... only if you're doing it wrong. A number of factors - an emphasis on instanced content, new customizable /hide options, the advent of global channels and the existence of good, stable Supergroups and Coalitions - have all combined to offer more options for the quick and easy finding of teams. Someone who does not make use of these options, yes, is going to have a harder time.
You can't just rely on blind invites, broadcast spamming and your LFT flag or even on Freedom you may have some trouble getting teams quickly. If you use all the tools you have available to you, however, there's no reason you should be having trouble at all. Other folks in this thread have already said as much. In the short term you need to be using tells and global channels - in the long term you need to be adding people to your friends list, beefing up your SG / finding another one and/or picking up good coalition allies.
Freedom is probably one of the easiest servers to find teams on quickly and I don't have any trouble even on far less popular servers. And yes, I play on Freedom. Also Justice, Infinity, Liberty, Triumph, Pinnacle, Protector and Champion. And sometimes Virtue.
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Everything Justaris has said.
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