Discussion: Issue 12: Midnight Hour Announced!
By
AaronH,
Posted on: 2008-03-12 09:13 in News, Events and Announcement Discussion
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Right but storm isn't really a buff set. Debuffs sure.
I would be annoyed if heros got one of the corrupters BUFF sets and controllers didn't get the main one of there's just saying.
If I had one to pick to keep unique on each side it would be empathy and thermal. If you're not going to port one I'd port the other.
BUT, this is not a make or break issue for me.
/storm corruptors will make me want to finally roll and play a corruptor past lvl 10.
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Well, I did say Debuff/Buff...but yeah, I know Storm is more the Debuff.
However, like I said in this thread. Empathy for the MMs is possible. I'm still guessing Kinetics, but Empathy is a VERY CLOSE second.
For Trollers secondary, they only have 2 options, sinse Trollers have access to every other Debuff/Buff set...Thermal Radiation and Cold Domination.
Seeing as how Fire Controll is the only Primary without a matching Secondary (Radiation being the closest, but still not matching imo), my guess is Thermal Radiation.
I of course could be wrong.
Tho to mention it, with Plant being on Trollers now, I don't see a matching Secondary for it either...maybe Empathy.
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So, was I reading it right that each AT will get one primary and secondary power from its corresponding AT? If so that's awesome!
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Every AT gains at least 1 powerset -- Masterminds only get a Secondary, no new Primary. Brutes get 2 new Primaries, and 1 secondary. Everyone else gets 1 Primary and 1 Secondary.
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Primary Secondary
Blasters Psi Blast ?
Controllers Plant Control ?
Defenders ? ?
Scrappers ? ?
Tankers ? ?
Brutes Axe, War Mace ?
Corruptors ? Storm Summoning
Dominators ? ?
Masterminds none ?
Stalkers ? ?</pre><hr />
Can we please get those question marks filled in, for the 75% of the slots that don't have anything to go on yet?
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positron already said corrs will get storm...meaning empathy is out.
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Thugs/empath MM ftw!
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I can see that instead of Kinetics for Masterminds. I'll still guess Kinetics tho.
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I would be a little surprised to see that, if only because of the widespread nerf-herding that surrounds Kinetics.
If there's an AT that it actually makes a little sense to have a "buff the troops" powerset like Empathy villain-side, it's probably more MM than Corr anyway.
I'll be happy regardless. Despite posting a "bah" earlier in this thread, I'm significantly more stoked about this issue than I was about I11.
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I just wanna know why they can say the AT's are getting new sets... and mention SOME of the sets that SOME of the AT's are getting... but can't just release the list of sets.
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Cuz the devs are teases.
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I officially had a coronary arrest due to an overload of too much winsauce overloading my system. I'm going home to hug my CoH/V boxes and whisper sweet nothings.
53 Bots/FF/Mace Mastermind | 53 NRG/FF/Electricity Defender | 50 Time/Dual Pistols/Soul Defender | 50 Demons/FF/Mace Mastermind | 51 Necro/Dark/Soul Mastermind | 50 Thugs/Time/Mace Mastermind | 50 Ice/Ice/Arctic Tanker | 50 Plant/Rad/Earth Controller | 50 Illusion/Trick Arrow Controller | 50 Gravity/Force Field Controller
Yes, I like Force Fields.
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WTH is with this? I can not name one SUPERHERO (Miller's "300" is NOT a superhero comic) comic book that has ever gone to the Roman time period. This is a VERY bizarre choice. Whatever happened to the surveys about what kind of content that the players were given way back when? I seem to remember COOL things like a lunar base or underwater settings... Unless theyre going to introduce mythological beasts such as hydras and cerberus, this is going to be VERY lame.
I was playing this game to play in SUPERHERO settings...
Any thoughts on this roman thing?
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There's all the Savage Land / Barsoom stories, plus the Asterix comics, the HG Wells time travel stuff, Jules Verne legends... any time you get into time travel, there's a question as to why you limit yourself to the "modern age" or equivalents.
Up until now we've been in a sort of "Sliders" multiverse, where we're still in the same Era, only with different permutations. NOW, we get to travel out of our native era, and into one that is radically different.
I fail to see how this is bad... you're right in that it's "not what the players asked for" but was probably the most awesome idea to make it onto the "We can implement this for I12" list.
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Warriors are Greek based right? so Romans aren't that far fetched
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Every AT gains at least 1 powerset -- Masterminds only get a Secondary, no new Primary. Brutes get 2 new Primaries, and 1 secondary. Everyone else gets 1 Primary and 1 Secondary.
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Someone made a theory... doe sthis mean Khelds get a new power set too? They are technically an AT :P
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HOLY CRAP.
Axe brutes! Plant controllers!
THERE HAD BETTER BE STORM CORRUPTORS.
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/Storm Corruptors... done.
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Holy [censored]
"I never said thank you." - Lt. Gordon
"And you'll never have to." - the Dark Knight
yeah, we wish. khelds are the AT that doesn't count, i guess.
i'll trade new powersets for khelds for some human form mez protection and some other QoL changes. deal? Castle?
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HOLY CRAP.
Axe brutes! Plant controllers!
THERE HAD BETTER BE STORM CORRUPTORS.
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/Storm Corruptors... done.
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I think I've died and gone to heaven.
Use some guess work...
Brutes...Axe and Mace already mentioned. That leaves 3 sets open on Secondaries (without Ice Melee, will ditch Ice Armor as a choice). Seeing as how they don't have access to a ninja like Primary, I'd ditch Ninjitsu. That leaves SR or Regen (I'd guess SR).
Corrs...Getting Storm. For theme reasons, Electric makes sinse.
Doms...They only lack Illusion and Earth. Really, it's a toss up either way. I think they'll go ILL tho.
MMs...lots of options. Sonic is close to FF in use. But with no matching Primary, I'd guess Kinetics (my bet) or Empathy (gives Villains the Empathy set they want).
Stalkers...I see Ice/Ice myself. But they could go either way on this set.
Trollers...Plant we know. Cold Domination and Thermal Radiation are the only sets they lack as a secondary. Thermal makes more sinse to port over for theme reasons. Thermal is the good bet imo.
Defenders...Ice/Cold Domination. Brings Cold Domination over to Hero side (if Trollers get Thermal Radiation).
**Note...hmmm...yes, saying this, I think MMs with get Empathy now more than Kinetics. Brings Empathy over to Villain side.
Blasters...Psy has already been mentioned. Really, I can't think of anything for their secondary, that wouldn't need to be butchered over alot, to be alot like the secondaries they already have.
Tankers...Dark/Dark is my guess. EA and ELA lack self-heals/regen, things every Tanker says they need to tank. I also just don't see Ninjitsu being made tank. Tho the tanks do have Dual Blades to fit the theme of Ninjitsu.
Scrappers...going with themes...EM/EA, ELM/ELA, or Fire/Fire (I just don't see it being Ice/Ice). My guess...ELM/ELA, just cuz I want my ELM/ELA hero.
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Every AT gains at least 1 powerset -- Masterminds only get a Secondary, no new Primary. Brutes get 2 new Primaries, and 1 secondary. Everyone else gets 1 Primary and 1 Secondary.
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Someone made a theory... does this mean Khelds get a new power set too? They are technically an AT :P
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This?
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Specifically, new characters of almost every Hero and Villain archetype gain access to an additional primary and secondary powerset that they didnt have access to previously.
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Might have been 
though.
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Right but storm isn't really a buff set. Debuffs sure.
I would be annoyed if heros got one of the corrupters BUFF sets and controllers didn't get the main one of there's just saying.
If I had one to pick to keep unique on each side it would be empathy and thermal. If you're not going to port one I'd port the other.
BUT, this is not a make or break issue for me.
/storm corruptors will make me want to finally roll and play a corruptor past lvl 10.
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Well, I did say Debuff/Buff...but yeah, I know Storm is more the Debuff.
However, like I said in this thread. Empathy for the MMs is possible. I'm still guessing Kinetics, but Empathy is a VERY CLOSE second.
For Trollers secondary, they only have 2 options, sinse Trollers have access to every other Debuff/Buff set...Thermal Radiation and Cold Domination.
Seeing as how Fire Controll is the only Primary without a matching Secondary (Radiation being the closest, but still not matching imo), my guess is Thermal Radiation.
I of course could be wrong.
Tho to mention it, with Plant being on Trollers now, I don't see a matching Secondary for it either...maybe Empathy.
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Yeah I don't think these initial (most likely more will come in future issues) proliferations are taking matching into account at all.
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positron already said corrs will get storm...meaning empathy is out.
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Thugs/empath MM ftw!
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I can see that instead of Kinetics for Masterminds. I'll still guess Kinetics tho.
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I would be a little surprised to see that, if only because of the widespread nerf-herding that surrounds Kinetics.
If there's an AT that it actually makes a little sense to have a "buff the troops" powerset like Empathy villain-side, it's probably more MM than Corr anyway.
I'll be happy regardless. Despite posting a "bah" earlier in this thread, I'm significantly more stoked about this issue than I was about I11.
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Actually...I'm seeing the Empathy for MMs more than Kin now, while typing out my last post in this thread.
It gives the villains the Empathy Set they've been wanting.
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Use some guess work...
Brutes...Axe and Mace already mentioned. That leaves 3 sets open on Secondaries (without Ice Melee, will ditch Ice Armor as a choice). Seeing as how they don't have access to a ninja like Primary, I'd ditch Ninjitsu. That leaves SR or Regen (I'd guess SR).
Corrs...Getting Storm. For theme reasons, Electric makes sinse.
Doms...They only lack Illusion and Earth. Really, it's a toss up either way. I think they'll go ILL tho.
MMs...lots of options. Sonic is close to FF in use. But with no matching Primary, I'd guess Kinetics (my bet) or Empathy (gives Villains the Empathy set they want).
Stalkers...I see Ice/Ice myself. But they could go either way on this set.
Trollers...Plant we know. Cold Domination and Thermal Radiation are the only sets they lack as a secondary. Thermal makes more sinse to port over for theme reasons. Thermal is the good bet imo.
Defenders...Ice/Cold Domination. Brings Cold Domination over to Hero side (if Trollers get Thermal Radiation).
**Note...hmmm...yes, saying this, I think MMs with get Empathy now more than Kinetics. Brings Empathy over to Villain side.
Blasters...Psy has already been mentioned. Really, I can't think of anything for their secondary, that wouldn't need to be butchered over alot, to be alot like the secondaries they already have.
Tankers...Dark/Dark is my guess. EA and ELA lack self-heals/regen, things every Tanker says they need to tank. I also just don't see Ninjitsu being made tank. Tho the tanks do have Dual Blades to fit the theme of Ninjitsu.
Scrappers...going with themes...EM/EA, ELM/ELA, or Fire/Fire (I just don't see it being Ice/Ice). My guess...ELM/ELA, just cuz I want my ELM/ELA hero.
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Again, I dont' think they are doing these INTIAL ones by matching.
And you forget that the controllers get ICE control primary. So cold is just as likely as thermal.
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Yeah I don't think these initial (most likely more will come in future issues) proliferations are taking matching into account at all.
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I wouldn't say that. I bet theme will be as much a part as anything.
Except, right now, in game...there is no matching buff/debuff set to go with Plant Controll. THO...I think Empathy works really well with the Mother Earth type.
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You know, it seems like every new issue you guys have put out since Issue 9 attempts to top the last one. That's a good thing. From the looks of it if Issue 12 doesn't top Issue 11 at least it'll run a close second.
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R U kidding me??? I11 was and is great but I12 just blew it out the water!! Now I gotta figure out who to delete to make space on my home server for all the new toons I am gonna create. Or... since they made server trasnfer possible, can we have additional slots on servers?? Heck I'd be willing to pay for it.
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Yeah I don't think these initial (most likely more will come in future issues) proliferations are taking matching into account at all.
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I wouldn't say that. I bet theme will be as much a part as anything.
Except, right now, in game...there is no matching buff/debuff set to go with Plant Controll. THO...I think Empathy works really well with the Mother Earth type.
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Yeah, if that's the case then cold domination is just as likely as thermal.
Blazara Aura LVL 50 Fire/Psi Dom (with 125% recharge)
Flameboxer Aura LVL 50 SS/Fire Brute
Ice 'Em Aura LVL 50 Ice Tank
Darq Widow Fortune LVL 50 Fortunata (200% rech/Night Widow 192.5% rech)--thanks issue 19!
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Again, I dont' think they are doing these INTIAL ones by matching.
And you forget that the controllers get ICE control primary. So cold is just as likely as thermal.
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I didn't forget. However, Cold/Storm isn't a bad fit themetically. Fire/ lacks it more imo.
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Again, I dont' think they are doing these INTIAL ones by matching.
And you forget that the controllers get ICE control primary. So cold is just as likely as thermal.
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I didn't forget. However, Cold/Storm isn't a bad fit themetically. Fire/ lacks it more imo.
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Huh???
Cold Domination is a /secondary
Storm is a /secondary
Thermal is a /secondary
Ice and Fire are prmaries for controllers.
HOWEVER, Storm/ is a primary for defenders. Seeing as how corrupters are reverse defenders and controllers and dominators are more linked, I still say Ice/Cold controllers are just as likely as Fire/Thermal controllers.
In other words you can't have a cold/storm corrupter since cold (and now storm) are secondaries for corrupters. And storm was a SECONDARY for controllers.
Blazara Aura LVL 50 Fire/Psi Dom (with 125% recharge)
Flameboxer Aura LVL 50 SS/Fire Brute
Ice 'Em Aura LVL 50 Ice Tank
Darq Widow Fortune LVL 50 Fortunata (200% rech/Night Widow 192.5% rech)--thanks issue 19!
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So, was I reading it right that each AT will get one primary and secondary power from its corresponding AT? If so that's awesome!
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Every AT gains at least 1 powerset -- Masterminds only get a Secondary, no new Primary. Brutes get 2 new Primaries, and 1 secondary. Everyone else gets 1 Primary and 1 Secondary.
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Which are............
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We will be releasing more details of each of Issue 12's features over the course of the coming weeks building up to the launch of the Issue. So, hang tight! We'll have all the goods and details for you in the future!
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Gut the marketting guys, LH
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Doom.
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