Locked out again.
I've had enough of 0 xp weekend -- I'm going to the movies.
Well this is my first negitive post but i have 1 toon a 50 1 sg the underground heroes and 1 server freedom. was running my 1st sg event the 1st respect trial for my sg got kicked of and now it wont let me back in that is BULL s#^@ ! I am so mad 
AHHHHHHHHHHHHH they need to fix this or dont have double xp weekends! ,,well good bye reactor
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Agreed x2 . Waiting on a server is an everyday thing in certain other games.... 
get out there, mingle on some other servers, i guarrentee you'll be able to get a great team on any of them this weekend
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Most people use this to get past stuck levels, where leveling sucks.
Not powerlevel a level 1 toon.
Its essentially zero xp weekend if you dont have established characters on other servers.
Boycott Ncsoft if they close down Coh.
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Hmm, could be just me, but I havent had problems logging into Freedom except a few times and eventually got on. With 2 gigs of Ram and running 2 accounts I'm doing just fine.
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I'm surprised you haven't had a mob at your door with torches and pitchforks... or Lady_Athyna aiming the orbital laser at the roof of your house...
"City of Heroes. April 27, 2004 - August 31, 2012. Obliterated not with a weapon of mass destruction, not by an all-powerful supervillain... but by a cold-hearted and cowardly corporate suck-up."
Virtue looks like it's about to hit the cap too, but I guess I'll have to play an alt there until freedom frees up. If both of them lock down, I'll just have to forget this crap.
I am amused that people expect freedom players to just roll alts that they will probably never touch again elsewhere just to take advantage of double xp weekend. The reason we're on freedom is for its activity, so we generally have zero interest in being one of 30 villains on protector.
Yes, Virt's right there at the lock. But I'm at work, so it's all moot for me right now anyway.
*shrug* I got two 50's, not like I'm in any hurry to get another...
"City of Heroes. April 27, 2004 - August 31, 2012. Obliterated not with a weapon of mass destruction, not by an all-powerful supervillain... but by a cold-hearted and cowardly corporate suck-up."
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To be clear....There are more players on Freedom now than have ever played on that server. Ever.
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1. Champion server was "screamin' yellow" when I logged on Friday, but I had little issues with lag. One big 10 second network "event" did kill one teammate, but besides that it was darn smooth. Good job!
2. I think I read in another thread that NCNC doesn't release server player numbers outside of shareholder reports, but assuming the news is good (ie., more players on all servers) it might not hurt to do some kind of press release. This would be positive advertising for CoH, I think, as well placate (heh, Stalker power...) the current player-base somewhat. Maybe just release the % increase on all servers. Knowing something, from a player's perspective, is better than knowing nothing.
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I can't help but laugh at those that only have characters on freedom. There are benefits to playing on 2 or 3 different servers regularly.
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Funny, except for the 2xXP weekends, we laugh at people who're everywhere except Freedom cuz of all the "tumbleweed" complaints I hear about your 2 or 3 different servers.
What's your home server, Turbo? I'll ask Lighthouse to designate that the official PL server of CoX, so all the farmers can move there and boost your population. I mean, you have 2 or 3 others, so it's all hunky dory, right?
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I live on Infinity, Liberty, and Virtue with mid-high levels on each server. I wouldn't be bothered if one of them was full because I have 2 backup options available to make use of the Double XP.
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nobody cares
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Hmm, could be just me, but I havent had problems logging into Freedom except a few times and eventually got on. With 2 gigs of Ram and running 2 accounts I'm doing just fine.
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I'm surprised you haven't had a mob at your door with torches and pitchforks... or Lady_Athyna aiming the orbital laser at the roof of your house...
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Actually, this is something I was surprised about too. Granted I am an outsider. I currently reside on Inifinity (and damn, being on the third most populated server never sounded so sweet), but Freedom was my first home. I played on freedom straight through from CoH beta to CoV launch. The only reason I switched to infinity is because while I was in CoV beta, I got invited to a VG when the game went live that just happened to be based on Infinity.
While reading this thread (because I have to work during most of Double XP weekend) one of the thoughts I keep having is "there bur for the grace of god go I."
Now that you know enough of my background to determine for yourself whether or not my opinion is worthwhile, here it is.
1) every server has RMTers and other undesireables taking up room. It is not just limited to Freedom, and the devs have been taking steps to try to curtail their population, but there is only so much a few game developers can do when faced with the limitless potential of human ingenuity motivated by relatively easy money.
2) From what I gathered from Lighthouse and Ghost Falcon's posts, this is not only record high server populations, but record high game populations. So while they might have seen this problem developing, it would have been dificult to predict that the measures they had already taken would be insufficient.
3) "Lock out all of the transfers to Freedom" I have two problems with this line of thought. First, if someone is motivated enough to transfer to freedom just to get PLd (which they could have done on any server really, or at least the top five), then chances are they'd be motivated enough to roll the toon they want on freedom, get PLd over the weekend and just transfer off a toon in the high thirties or higher afterwards. Second, I could have sworn that I heard a lot of people from Freedom bragging when transfers were first opened and people spent their own hard earned money to move to Freedom. Not only were they bragging, but they were advertising or maybe the better word is campaigning to get people to transfer over. I'm not saying this is your fault, I'm just saying: be careful what you wish for.
4) This is where we get to the suggested solution segment (yay alliteration!) of the post. From time to time, throughout this thread, I have heard people make reference to having multiple accounts logged in at once. If Freedom is anything like Infinity, at least 1 out of every 5 people knows someone who has multiple accounts. That ratio tends to go up drastically when the field is narrowed to the forum going population. My suggestion is that you make every effort to convince people you know who are running multiple accounts concurrently, to pick one account at a time to run. You can do this several ways: you can simply ask them, and if that does not have the desired response, try annoying or bugging or harassing them. If that doesn't work, try excluding them from good teams.
In my (admitedly skewed) opinion, that is probably the best solution to allow more people to enjoy double XP weekend without calling for the exclusion of anyone.
If I could transfer the characters I wanted to work on off freedom for free during this weekend to work on, it wouldn't bother me so much.
Many of us saw what unmoderated transfers would do to freedom. I don't remember so much encouragement to transfer here as to prevent it. Same with virtue. The populations on these severs were aware what would happen, but the devs wanted money, and they wanted easy money, and there was easy money in letting people transfer to freedom and virtue at will.
It's a case of greed more than anything else.
Exactly.
Shoot, there was one forum poster that said they had FOUR accounts on at once. That's three spots taken that could go to someone else.
"City of Heroes. April 27, 2004 - August 31, 2012. Obliterated not with a weapon of mass destruction, not by an all-powerful supervillain... but by a cold-hearted and cowardly corporate suck-up."
This may have been suggested, within this thread or elsewhere, perhaps a million times too, but please:
Allow Free server transfer from Freedom to any of the low pop servers.
If I had only 1 character to move I'd pay for it, but I've got way more than that and I really think this would help more than just me if this would be allowed
Why make it free when they can charge you?
They want the money. They couldn't give a damn if it made the populace happy or not. That's how business works.
It's been brought up. So far we've seen no dev response (positive or negative). It may be that the character transfer routines have no way of negating the charge if it's from specific servers, so they'd need to code that in, test it, then deploy it. If this is true (and it's likely that it is) then we shouldn't expect it to happen before the next double-XP or other special event.
Granted, this game charges you ten bucks to move a character... others charge more (I just moved two in That Other MMO, and got dinged $25... EACH. That's three month's worth of play just to move two characters to a server where my friends play.)
"City of Heroes. April 27, 2004 - August 31, 2012. Obliterated not with a weapon of mass destruction, not by an all-powerful supervillain... but by a cold-hearted and cowardly corporate suck-up."
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That's three month's worth of play just to move two characters to a server where my friends play.
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This is why people like to play on freedom. Because their friends play here. It's not cool to have to drop a ton of money to do it either. WoW bit the bullet on a lot of server transfers from overpopulated servers (like archimonde in its heyday) to help populate the lower popped and new servers that they were working on, but NC can't be bothered to try that approach, because it doesn't make them money. I've never seen a game with such a drastically dispersed population as this game. Some servers are wastelands, and some are overcrowded.
It's amazing to see how many people scorn this though and expect people to play on like eight different servers.
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It's been brought up. So far we've seen no dev response (positive or negative). It may be that the character transfer routines have no way of negating the charge if it's from specific servers, so they'd need to code that in, test it, then deploy it. If this is true (and it's likely that it is) then we shouldn't expect it to happen before the next double-XP or other special event.
Granted, this game charges you ten bucks to move a character... others charge more (I just moved two in That Other MMO, and got dinged $25... EACH. That's three month's worth of play just to move two characters to a server where my friends play.)
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That is very true. Also considering that we don't get charged for more content. Plenty of other MMOs out there charge you for expansions, and new content, with the exception of minor updates. We get our issues, and updates for free. Also -- They decided not to charge users 2 seperate fees for City of Heroes, and City of Villains. The developers and NC have been very generous to us. They also listened when we all asked for server upgrades, and we got it. They gave us server transfers for a fee MUCH lower than "other games" charge.
~Broken
I don't get my issues and updates for free. Last time I checked, I pay 15 dollars a month, and it's hard to charge two different fees for the same exact game that is hosted on the same servers.
Many other games charge for transfers too, but other games, like WoW, provide their higher population servers transfers for free to lower pops to balance the population out.
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I don't get my issues and updates for free. Last time I checked, I pay 15 dollars a month, and it's hard to charge two different fees for the same exact game that is hosted on the same servers.
Many other games charge for transfers too, but other games, like WoW, provide their higher population servers transfers for free to lower pops to balance the population out.
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I apologize then. I meant, you don't pay extra money for more content, where as other games you pay extra money for expansions.
Provide server transfers for free to higher population servers to balance the population out? I would agree with that. It would probably be the best approach.
What I was responding to, was that you said that "All they want is our money. They don't care if the populace is happy or not".
I don't know of many game developers out there who are more involved with their community than this one. They care about their fanbase, believe it or not. We may not get every little thing we ask for, but they do listen, and they try their best to do what they can for us.
~Broken
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Did the Devs not say something about increasing the load capacity of the servers to compensate for this?
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Yes. We upgraded our server hardware as part of our re-investment plan for City of Heroes/Villains, but the fact of the matter is that we've actually hit a new capacity threshhold.
To be clear....There are more players on Freedom now than have ever played on that server. Ever.
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...and Half of them are in Peregrine right now STEALIN R XP!!
(Fact: PL'ing on Freedom doubled and then tripled after server Transfers)
Seriously, for those of us who've made Freedom our home for the last 2 years but get locked out b/c of so many newbs... this actually is unfair. And yes I do believe there was precedent for entitlement b/c this very issue came up time and time again during the discussions about Server Transfers.
I don't wanna say I told ya so, but..... I TOTALLY called this like 8 months ago
This is a massive screw-up by NC Soft. Capping servers, and not allowing people access to their characters, is a fast track towards longtime players (like me) canceling subscriptions.
Totally stupid move on their part.
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Make Freedom 2, Like you make Peregrine 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,75843
It's that easy.
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Yeah, they can just right click the server hardware, copy, paste, >>>viola<<<!
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It is that easy, noob. Almost as easy as spell checker, oh noez! Go cry. Shoo.
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I don't get my issues and updates for free. Last time I checked, I pay 15 dollars a month, and it's hard to charge two different fees for the same exact game that is hosted on the same servers.
Many other games charge for transfers too, but other games, like WoW, provide their higher population servers transfers for free to lower pops to balance the population out.
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I apologize then. I meant, you don't pay extra money for more content, where as other games you pay extra money for expansions.
Provide server transfers for free to higher population servers to balance the population out? I would agree with that. It would probably be the best approach.
What I was responding to, was that you said that "All they want is our money. They don't care if the populace is happy or not".
I don't know of many game developers out there who are more involved with their community than this one. They care about their fanbase, believe it or not. We may not get every little thing we ask for, but they do listen, and they try their best to do what they can for us.
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They don't listen. They're too busy "fixing" rage, a power no one had a problem with. While making "fixes," in the process, they break other things.
The current toggle debuff animation bug is a result of a "fix," yet we still haven't seen this issue addressed. It took how long to fix the arenas?
They made a poll for new powersets, and then when one beat out another, they chose the losing set because they didn't want to make the winning set (I believe it was willpower) probably because they never intended to do it in the first place.
They change defiance, villains are getting mauled, they say they will consider lowering unresistable damage, its warned that it'll not really help the villains so much but will just slow down hero vs hero and what's the plan? To lower unresistable damage.
Grandville is still a laghole.
I know everyone was JUST DYING for the -1 imp level nerf, because it did so much to slow down fire/kins.
Heroside TFs are still a billion times longer and more repetitive than villain SFs.
Still waiting on pvp brute fury fix.
Still waiting on villain PPP love.
How long is that costume request thread? So many cool, interesting ideas and we get random patterns and the you-know-no-one-asked-for-them boxing pieces and greek letters. You'll never see 99% of that thread come to fruition.
I've never seen such an [censored]-backwards performance.
Most people with CoV paid for it as an expansion for CoH, which included new content, so I don't see how you can say that they've never had people pay for an expansion. Same servers, new content, more character slots. So I really have no idea where you get "Well OTHER companies charge for expansions!"
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This is a massive screw-up by NC Soft. Capping servers, and not allowing people access to their characters, is a fast track towards longtime players (like me) canceling subscriptions.
Totally stupid move on their part.
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hello mister minority.
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This is a massive screw-up by NC Soft. Capping servers, and not allowing people access to their characters, is a fast track towards longtime players (like me) canceling subscriptions.
Totally stupid move on their part.
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hello mister minority.
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Make Freedom 2, Like you make Peregrine 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,75843
It's that easy.
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Yeah, they can just right click the server hardware, copy, paste, voila!