Discussion: Positron Issue 11 Interview on MMORPG
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AmazingMOO,
Posted on: 2007-10-05 11:29 in News, Events and Announcement Discussion
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Can you please stop claiming that the veteran reward system is a 'program which rewards loyal players' because as we all know it doesn't work like that.
Someone who has been playing for 3 months has more useful and more rewarding bonuses than someone who has been playing for 3 years. A reward is when you give someone something of value to them, an award is something to just mark an occasion.
The veteran scheme doesn't offer rewards, it offers awards once you get far enough into it. It's only rewarding for the first couple years when you get universally valuable things like trenchcoats, wings, temp powers and respecs. Once you get into the 2-3 year mark you have more respecs than you could ever need thus making them devalued and you're not getting costume peices which can be used on a wide range of characters, instead you get very very specific costume peices which are restrictive and not even suitable for super humans half the time.
It's been said time and time again, you cannot claim it offers rewards for loyalty when you insist on ensuring that people who haven't subscribed as long don't feel 'left out'. A reward is valuable because people want it, soon as it stops being desirable it's not a reward anymore.
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/signed!!!!!
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So... if we can only create a door to the Ouroboros Citadel after we've been exposed to time travel, and we can only time travel by going to the Ouroboros Citadel, how do we get exposed to time travel in the first place?
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*Taps Sadako on shoulder*
*Dredges up ED, I9 Doom and MUO threads*
"See? It's like getting hit over the head all over again!"
(More seriously, I expect we'll need to do some of the actual content or speak with contacts to gain the ability, much like doing Levantera's arc gives us merits)
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Well, since your future self goes back in time and repeats the actions of your past self, thereby replacing your past self in your prior adventures, then your past self is actually your future self who already has the power to open the door. Therefore, if your past self has the power to open the door, then your current self must still have the power, allowing you to open the door in the future to go to the past so that you have the power in the present.
It's really quite simple.
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So... if we can only create a door to the Ouroboros Citadel after we've been exposed to time travel, and we can only time travel by going to the Ouroboros Citadel, how do we get exposed to time travel in the first place?
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*head aspolodes*
time paradox anyone? 
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didn't even mention weapon customization... which, I believe, is the best part of the Issue.
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Yeah, it really is one of the strongest points of the issue. Conventional wisdom about what new players want to hear probably says that no one really cares about customization and want to know more about loots, content and powersets, but honestly, customization is a huge draw to a game since it helps personalize the experience of it even moreso.
If it were me, I'd have opened the article with talking about Ouroboros, then the new enhancements, then the new Powersets and finally closed it strong with Weapon Customization.
Just read the article.
Wow.
Great looking issue, Devs. Thank you.
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fluff piece, best information was about the halloween event times,still waiting for IOP and COP as was promised many months ago.
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Well, I'm quite happy with my Vet Pet. Also, happy with the all the Vet respecs. Nice base accessories. The nice, shiny, badges are cool too...can never have enough badges. 
Whether you want to call them 'awards' or 'rewards' (both mean pretty much the same thing in this context), I still like most of the later ones just as much as the "useful" ones you are reffering to.
Well, except the boxing gloves...I'll /sign that part.....and the costume tokens have gotten a bit out of hand
Maybe I'm missing the point of your post? <shrug> Are you saying you would like more powers or something? Pretty sure more powers would unbalance the game quite a bit.....I'd hate to be nerfed simply because I've played for a few more months than others. Or maybe you're asking for something else? Yeah, you're post is not making much sense to me. Sorry 
Would I be happy if a future vet reward/award was a vehical travel power? HECK YES!!! Basically anything the devs will put out as a vet whatever, I'll look forward to....I like getting new stuff for simply playing a game I like....makes playing the game even more of a 'rewarding' experience to participate in. 
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didn't even mention weapon customization... which, I believe, is the best part of the Issue.
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Same here. I would like to see a whole interview on WC.
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So... if we can only create a door to the Ouroboros Citadel after we've been exposed to time travel, and we can only time travel by going to the Ouroboros Citadel, how do we get exposed to time travel in the first place?
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*head aspolodes*
time paradox anyone?
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WooT, new contact (or old contact with new story arc attached) and new story arc to introduce you to the Ouroboros! YAY!
(For the people who whined about the 'Rikti Invasion' being rehashed content.....this is gunna give 'em heartattacks )
Signature character costume temporary powers? Bahahahahaa ... yes, please!
This year I'm gonna dress up as Synapse and go around throwing myself at people.
I hope the Posi costume is the "helmet on" version, though.
Well, assuming that "CoX NPCs" means the signature characters. If it turns out that all I get is a Cadao Kestrel or Wilson Zucco costume, I'll be rather disappointed.
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didn't even mention weapon customization... which, I believe, is the best part of the Issue.
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Yeah, it really is one of the strongest points of the issue. Conventional wisdom about what new players want to hear probably says that no one really cares about customization and want to know more about loots, content and powersets, but honestly, customization is a huge draw to a game since it helps personalize the experience of it even moreso.
If it were me, I'd have opened the article with talking about Ouroboros, then the new enhancements, then the new Powersets and finally closed it strong with Weapon Customization.
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Likely this interview was done a while ago and held under wraps until NCSoft gave the green light to publish it. Considering Positron already mentioned that WC was finalized for this issue rather late in development, it's quite possible this interview was done before WC was even in the I11 build.
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So... if we can only create a door to the Ouroboros Citadel after we've been exposed to time travel, and we can only time travel by going to the Ouroboros Citadel, how do we get exposed to time travel in the first place?
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We flashback to the mission that unlocks the Ouroboros Citadel, which we missed the first time because we couldn't get to it because we didn't unlock time travel because we couldn't do the Ouroboros unlock mission to unlock time travel.
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Cool article. Just wish they'd have thought to ask when this issue would be out. :-p So I'm guessing there will be issues after I11 right?
I cant wait i will do the virdian arc over and over hehe!!!
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Signature character costume temporary powers? Bahahahahaa ... yes, please!
This year I'm gonna dress up as Synapse and go around throwing myself at people.
I hope the Posi costume is the "helmet on" version, though.
Well, assuming that "CoX NPCs" means the signature characters. If it turns out that all I get is a Cadao Kestrel or Wilson Zucco costume, I'll be rather disappointed.
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CoX NPC's does not mean Signature character. No Posi, Synapse, et al
The list:
Banished Pantheon Shaman
Cage Consortium Guard
Carnie Harlequin
Carnie Strongman
Coralax Minion
Council Galaxy
Council Penumbra
Crey Agent
Crey Power Suit
Crey Security
Freakshow Boss
Freak Stunner
Ghost Pirate
Goldbricker
Hellion
Kinves of Artemis
Legacy Chain
Lost
Malta Gunslinger
Malta Operative
Nemesis Soldier
Outcast Thug
Paragon Protector
PPD Cop
PPD Hardsuit
PPD Swat Officer
Scrapyarder
Skull Thug
Sky Raider
Troll Ogre
Tsoo Inkman
Vahzilok Eidolon
Warrior
(from ParagonWiki)
Awww man was so hoping there was a 5th column costume and i didn't find it yet darn
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fluff piece
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"This year, players will be also have the opportunity to gain temporary powers that will turn them into popular City of X NPCs."
i11 is looking great, and even -IF- we have to wait until December, the Halloween event is just around the corner and the above quote makes this years event even more fun filled!
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The veteran scheme doesn't offer rewards, it offers awards once you get far enough into it.
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Semantic gibberish.
/signed. In all fairness... I don't know WTH Tal was goin on about there.
So what if you've spent well over $500 on this damn game by now... Do you have any idea what a Smoker has spent for their Fix over the last 3-4 years? ...nevermind what they'll be spending in the NEXT 3-4.
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I'm not sure if this has been mentioned by the devs or not, but I did see something concerning the combo system for dual blades:
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For the Dual Blade, the order of the attacks can execute a combo that will either buff your character of de-buff your enemy.
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[/ QUOTE ]I love the new stuff with I11. They only question i have is will claws be getting this combo buff, debuff cause they deserve it.Can i plz get a red name to answer this
The other reason there was no mention of the Weapons Customizing in the article could be that the interviewer didn't do their homework and never asked that question. Stranger things have happened.
It's nice knowing some semi-concrete dates for things upcoming. God knows we'll get an email about the Halloween event two days after it starts
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This Issue also adds new Invention Sets to the game. When the Inventions System went live back with Issue 9, there were a number of powers that were left out. Matt tells me that Issue 11 resolves that issue, adding inventions that enhance the remaining powers. Like any good journalist, I asked for a list:
* Taunt
* Knockback
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Energy Blasters and Force Fielders REJOICE!!
Our time has come. Better yet, since these will be considered to be 'useless' as Hold or Immob IOs (They're not), these will be relatively easy to get hold of.
Can you please stop claiming that the veteran reward system is a 'program which rewards loyal players' because as we all know it doesn't work like that.
Someone who has been playing for 3 months has more useful and more rewarding bonuses than someone who has been playing for 3 years. A reward is when you give someone something of value to them, an award is something to just mark an occasion.
The veteran scheme doesn't offer rewards, it offers awards once you get far enough into it. It's only rewarding for the first couple years when you get universally valuable things like trenchcoats, wings, temp powers and respecs. Once you get into the 2-3 year mark you have more respecs than you could ever need thus making them devalued and you're not getting costume peices which can be used on a wide range of characters, instead you get very very specific costume peices which are restrictive and not even suitable for super humans half the time.
It's been said time and time again, you cannot claim it offers rewards for loyalty when you insist on ensuring that people who haven't subscribed as long don't feel 'left out'. A reward is valuable because people want it, soon as it stops being desirable it's not a reward anymore.