Discussion: COH/COV Myspace!
By
Alwaysseen,
Posted on: 2007-06-04 15:25 in News, Events and Announcement Discussion
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Why didn't the poll have more options? Such as:
do you use:
_ Myspace
_ Livejournal
_ Friendster
_ Facebook
_ (etc)
And put the first effort into the one you found the most players used?
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Can't speak for the others, but Livejournal already has thriving, well known City of Heroes and City of Villains communities that have been around since the launch (even the Beta) of their respective games. We're unofficial and fan-run, but so well established that NCSoft really doesn't need any official presence on LJ. Besides, we've got the names already. 
But as co-mod of the CoH community, I'd be overjoyed to see the Red Names pop in and say hi anytime they feel like it.
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@Quasadu
"We must prepare for DOOM and hope for FREEM." - SirFrederick
Wow, you guys are just terrible to each other sometimes on here. 
Linking to publicly available information isn't an act of pseudointellectualism, it's an attempt to educate and inform others. Kinda like linking to Wikipedia. So lets watch the harsh, sweeping judgements of others intellectual capacities? No need for ego, just share share the wealth.
I'm just glad people are pushing for multiplatform exposure online, regardless of the muddled number of costs and payments. (I don't think Cryptic Studios has its accountant on the forums? Or an investor page, even? That'd be an interesting bit of info.) I'm just hoping these other social networks get jumped on pretty quickly, to escape the 'Just MySpace' fears I'm reading in a lot of these posts.
The fact that these pages are more used as "gateways and "signposts" to the core website and Cryptic-owned social networks rather than being their own singular source of information? That just makes me breathe a bit easier.
Plug away if you have a personal webring of choice, I say, if you've got one. It'd just be a matter of making sure the Cryptic webmonkies can match their unique formats A-OK.
Well despite all the rants and various arguements that ive heard, i feel that this is a very good step toward broadening the games target market. Finding new players can only help the company, there in, helping the game. The more revenue they bring in, the bigger the game can get, there is no point in limiting a companies potential just because individuals have some rediculous peevs with myspace. If you have a problem with the myspace page, then simply dont use it! It will take nothing away from the challenges of devs to fix bugs because they are 2 completely different things. Having a good networking tool (which is all myspace is really meant to be) would be a good thing for this game to spread the word, increase subscriptions, and put that money to use for the greater good of the game!
Be sure to drink your
I've stayed away from this because I hate Myspace with a passion that burns... yada yada... blah blah... yackity schmackity.
Even though, the problem with my laptop melting was probably caused by my son (who has a Myspace page) clicking on one of the ebil banner ads somewhere there, I don't care. I hate Myspace. It's ebil. It melted my laptop, which is still in the shop for repair.
But I didn't speak up because, well, if the powers that be felt this was a good move, I didn't want to sour it. 7 pages later (max view) and I'm apparently not alone in my loathing. While I freely admit my feelings towards Myspace aren't completely logical, that doesn't change my feelings. No more than declaring I no longer believe in couches. Tomorrow morning, my couch will still be here.
What's the point to my ramblings? Glad you asked!
If NCSoft wishes to engage in this particulary business practice, I can not sway them. I am but one voice. But, I can implore them to visit similar sites and other 'net based forms of 'getting the word out' so to speak. It is, after all, a bit late to close the barn door, the cows are already out. But, hit all the sites. Make RSS feeds and other technical jargon. All that techie stuff. Go for it. I will not begrudge cheap advertising.
Well, I created a MySpace account just to add COH as a friend. I'll probably never bother visiting it after this, but the way I see it, the more people befriend COH, the better chances someone browsing MySpace and looking for a new MMO will try it.
www.SaveCOH.com: Calls to Action and Events Calendar
This is what 3700 heroes in a single zone looks like.
Thanks to @EnsonsDeath for the GVE code that made me VIP again!
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yackity schmackity.
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I got it, Athyna, even if no one else did.
It's nice creating new ideas, but what about the old like fixing "Cathedral of Pain" and other things that have been tabled for months ... who cares about myspace anyway... I certainly don't.
this is simply a well placed marketing strategy and has nothing to do with the "tech" side of the game, can you understand this simple concept?
more CoX myspace friends = more potential teammates = the end.
p.s. no more free drinx for me tonite.
:::MAIN::: Blu Bird / Virtue/ 50- energy/energy - Blaster
lol blu you shouldnt be posting drunk! Teaming with you tonight was odd to say the least, you may not even remember....
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yackity schmackity.
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I got it, Athyna, even if no one else did.
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So did I. 
*wanders off to get a little OJ...*
@Quasadu
"We must prepare for DOOM and hope for FREEM." - SirFrederick
The naysayers be doomed, I for one am all for trying anything NEW that might lead to EXCITING. Oh, dont get me wrong, I have my reservations, but I am willing to give it a chance. See, I understand that different projects are funded by different pots of money in a business, and managed by different groups of people. The rise of this project does not spell doom for another.
What appeals to me most about this opportunity is that my husband and I live in a fairly remote area, and are very anxious to find other people in real life within an hour or two of our home, who play this game. It would be nice to get together in real life with people who know what all our excited chatter is about, and enjoy the conversation as much as we do.
We'd have some BBQ on the patio, a beer, maybe a LAN party, whatever.
But so far our attempts to make real life friends with folks in the game have left us a bit jaded. Opening our horizons here MIGHT bring our way someone we actually want to know.
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Why didn't the poll have more options? Such as:
do you use:
_ Myspace
_ Livejournal
_ Friendster
_ Facebook
_ (etc)
And put the first effort into the one you found the most players used?
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Can't speak for the others, but Livejournal already has thriving, well known City of Heroes and City of Villains communities that have been around since the launch (even the Beta) of their respective games. We're unofficial and fan-run, but so well established that NCSoft really doesn't need any official presence on LJ. Besides, we've got the names already. But as co-mod of the CoH community, I'd be overjoyed to see the Red Names pop in and say hi anytime they feel like it.
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Same with Myspace. There is a forum group there that has been active for a very long time before the "offical" page came about.
Cheers!
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Why didn't the poll have more options? Such as:
do you use:
_ Myspace
_ Livejournal
_ Friendster
_ Facebook
_ (etc)
And put the first effort into the one you found the most players used?
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Can't speak for the others, but Livejournal already has thriving, well known City of Heroes and City of Villains communities that have been around since the launch (even the Beta) of their respective games. We're unofficial and fan-run, but so well established that NCSoft really doesn't need any official presence on LJ. Besides, we've got the names already. But as co-mod of the CoH community, I'd be overjoyed to see the Red Names pop in and say hi anytime they feel like it.
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you're gonna pimp the comm and not let me know...
*bans quas* O:
We just topped out at 5700 and we get approximately 200 adds per day.
There area a lot of fun pages, and it is nice to browse through and see how really different people are out there.
Just wanted to give a heads up for those following this discussion.
http://www.myspace.com/official_cityofheroes
Ex
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We just topped out at 5700 and we get approximately 200 adds per day.
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Still on this kick, are you? Well, if you're going to make a serious go at it, you need to be emulating this guy. Weird Al's got what, 630,000 friends? Yeah. Puts that '5700' number into perspective.
Al's is the only MySpace page I've ever deliberately visited. And the reason I do so? Content. He's got songs, tour dates, fan club info, pictures, etc. posted there. Given that the CoH team can't come up with content for its own home page, I'm gonna go out on a very short limb here and say we're never going to see content on CoH MySpace. Ergo: fail.
Alright, let me modify that statement a bit. I just deliberately visited the CoH MySpace page to make sure I wasn't talking out of my [censored]. Nope. I wasn't. Content-free, unless you consider a link to the home and friend-referral pages content.
I'm a substitute teacher these days and I've got a fairly good insight into the ways some middle schoolers use MySpace. In my experience, 200-250 friends is about the average for an 8th-grade girl. So, you've boosted CoH awareness by about 25-30 eighth grade girls and are getting another one every day or two.
Woo. 
You get what you pay for, Ex. Craptastic web-advertising will only generate a craptastic response.
And let me add that 'craptastic' doesn't even come close to describing the "community" there. A compilation of one-line text messages each trying to scream 'O Gawd, please, somebody LOOK at me' louder than the ones around it is not community.
I realize that the purpose of this abomination is to generate brand awareness and foster goodwill amonst the users. But Ex, you'd have more success in both those endeavors by giving homeless guys a sandwich and a CoH sign and asking them to yell the game's name from the streetcorners- with the added karmic bonus of at least having fed a homeless guy.
Statesmonkey Sez: Lighten up! It's a game, for Lincoln's sake!
Also: Six years of casual play begins to look an awful lot like one year of hardcore play.
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I'm a substitute teacher these days and I've got a fairly good insight into the ways some middle schoolers use MySpace. In my experience, 200-250 friends is about the average for an 8th-grade girl.
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You visit the MySpace pages of the 8th grade girls you sub for?
/creepy
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I'm a substitute teacher these days and I've got a fairly good insight into the ways some middle schoolers use MySpace. In my experience, 200-250 friends is about the average for an 8th-grade girl.
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You visit the MySpace pages of the 8th grade girls you sub for?
/creepy
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Lmao! True and sounding a bit bitter. http://www.myspace.com/nightclerk While your at it come see me.
You said what I said just before and right after the CoH MySpace page was started. But you said it a whole lot better than I did.
You are my hero Casual_Player!
Oh and BTW Ex, it's cool that you're having a ball with MySpace and all but how many new subscriptions has it brought to CoH?
Why don't you all update and add content to the official CoH page? Hmmmmmmm? What's that? Cause you're too busy dinking around with MySpace to actually add anything to the official page. Yeah, ok.
I don't blame CoX for trying something new. As someone who has played CoX for years now, I don't like it.
Why?
Because the quality of people at My Space is not the best. Casual_Player defined them best. They are overall not the type of people who will stick with a game until they get 1 toon to lvl 50. Most of the target audience at My Space is to young, too immature, and too impatient to play a game longer than a month.
I understand wanting more players, but do something to get the right players. Hit video game stores, ask us to promote (Which I do all the time), and do the comic conventions. Don't waste time on a website like Juvi Detention Central.
in the last 2 years I have seen CoX I have seen the shift from older players who use stratagy give way to a sub-group of players who try to do nothing more than PL in order to get more characters eligible for their PvP "Fight Club" style of playing. Not saying that every PvP'er is that way, but those who do, their numbers are growing.
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I'm a substitute teacher these days and I've got a fairly good insight into the ways some middle schoolers use MySpace. In my experience, 200-250 friends is about the average for an 8th-grade girl.
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You visit the MySpace pages of the 8th grade girls you sub for?
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No, I don't, as that would be creepitude verging upon firing offense. 
I look over their shoulders as they point their page out to me proudly. For them, I'm willing to be a little forgiving. Making a MySpace is at least a tiny step toward the math/sciency world of webcoding, and I try to encourage the girls whenever I can along those lines, just like I try to encourage my wannabe rapper boys towards anything english-language-y.
Ex-Libris, however, is an adult, and needs a little needling whenever she wanders into pre-teen territory.
Statesmonkey Sez: Lighten up! It's a game, for Lincoln's sake!
Also: Six years of casual play begins to look an awful lot like one year of hardcore play.
This article describing the class devisions between MySpace and FaceBook has been making the blog rounds right now, but I find it amusingly accurate given the attitudes that have reared their head about MySpace so far in this thread:
http://www.danah.org/papers/essays/ClassDivisions.html
" The goodie two shoes, jocks, athletes, or other "good" kids are now going to Facebook. These kids tend to come from families who emphasize education and going to college. They are part of what we'd call hegemonic society. They are primarily white, but not exclusively. They are in honors classes, looking forward to the prom, and live in a world dictated by after school activities.
MySpace is still home for Latino/Hispanic teens, immigrant teens, "burnouts," "alternative kids," "art ****," punks, emos, goths, gangstas, queer kids, and other kids who didn't play into the dominant high school popularity paradigm. These are kids whose parents didn't go to college, who are expected to get a job when they finish high school. Teens who are really into music or in a band are on MySpace. MySpace has most of the kids who are socially ostracized at school because they are geeks, freaks, or queers. "
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This article describing the class devisions between MySpace and FaceBook has been making the blog rounds right now, but I find it amusingly accurate given the attitudes that have reared their head about MySpace so far in this thread:
http://www.danah.org/papers/essays/ClassDivisions.html
" The goodie two shoes, jocks, athletes, or other "good" kids are now going to Facebook. These kids tend to come from families who emphasize education and going to college. They are part of what we'd call hegemonic society. They are primarily white, but not exclusively. They are in honors classes, looking forward to the prom, and live in a world dictated by after school activities.
MySpace is still home for Latino/Hispanic teens, immigrant teens, "burnouts," "alternative kids," "art ****," punks, emos, goths, gangstas, queer kids, and other kids who didn't play into the dominant high school popularity paradigm. These are kids whose parents didn't go to college, who are expected to get a job when they finish high school. Teens who are really into music or in a band are on MySpace. MySpace has most of the kids who are socially ostracized at school because they are geeks, freaks, or queers. "
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Well, I now feel it is my moral obligation to write a long and scrawling Myspace entry!
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No offense to Memphis, but "that's all moot now" is a little extreme. Apparantly, we're being forced to go to myspace to see updates.
To anyone else, if it bothers you that much, ignore it. Stop wasting time with pointless post and mindless rants.
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Bit of a leap there, don't you tink? "It's all moot now" = concerns about other places getting the attention we stated at the time we'd rather see put on the official page instead of creating a myspace page no longer matter since the myspace is done.
Try not to assume.