Recluse SF COMPLETED!!
I am also going to disagree on the "only one raid per day" theory. On Champion a little while back we did multiple raids on Saturdays and raids daily (sometimes twice).
To expand on the "8-man team can't do Hami"; while this may be true at its source, several members of the Champion community managed to take down Hamidon with around 20 or so people, perhaps much less. It involved Team Teleport, Transfusion and a bunch of other things once considered unviable in Raids.
It caused such a stir in our server that people were afraid of Hamidon being 'monopolized".
To return to the Strike Force, congratulations...I only hope thta my only 43 may be of use when it goes live...
So for the SHOEs :P Do they have the same attributes and graphics as the original?
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Well done! I gotta look into thrwing out my dominator and rolling up some corruptors!
Malakim
-Playing since COH beta and still love the game!
guys Im afraid.... who are all these people!
Happy Birthday Positron!
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So for the SHOEs :P Do they have the same attributes and graphics as the original?
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They seem exactly like HOs. The only difference is the word Synthetic in the name and a slightly different description since they are 'replicated by positron'.
Edit: *Possible Spoiler* The Future Freedom Phalanx seem to refer to them as H-Boosters in the SF.
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NOTE: You can only earn the The Lord Recluse Strike Force reward once every *24 hours* This is by design to help prevent farming.
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Per account or per character?
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Character.
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Happy birthday Positron! And please consider my plea regarding the 24 hour time limt.
50s: Inv/SS PB Emp/Dark Grav/FF DM/Regen TA/A Sonic/Elec MA/Regen Fire/Kin Sonic/Rad Ice/Kin Crab Fire/Cold NW Merc/Dark Emp/Sonic Rad/Psy Emp/Ice WP/DB FA/SM
Overlord of Dream Team and Nightmare Squad
It would be nice to get to choose your SHO so we don't end up with something we can't use after all that hard work. Although I think it won't be that bad after a few months when more people start completing the SF. Then we could get on our own server thread and trade there. It does suck for the moment you get it but if all else fails we still have a chance to trade on these boards.
How do you get a booming topic on the Triumph boards?
Get a dev to post!
Great job, guys. Another reputable milestone task completed by your members!
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guys Im afraid.... who are all these people!
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That's what I was wondering. I saw this get 20 pages. I'm a Triumphiant, I don't know how to read more than 2 pages!
Good job guys!
I just hope we don't end up with "need X-Y-Z build to have a shot at finishing Recluse's trial" syndrome.
Happy Birthday Positron
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NOTE: You can only earn the The Lord Recluse Strike Force reward once every *24 hours* This is by design to help prevent farming.
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Meh...kinda dumb. If peeps want to sit and run the TF 6 times a day, why not let them?
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I thought you could run the TF as much as you want but not be rewarded the HO equivalent but once every 24 hours. That might have been what you meant.
Either way I have been thinking about this and how it balances with Hammi.
If all factors were absolutely perfect, you could generate more HOs for heroes faster than villains server wide per day, however on the Villain side, team make ups and recruitment time to do a 6 hour SF *should* be much faster. So with multiple copies of the SF going at the same time at all hours of the night, the Villains may, in a practical gaming world, have an easier time to generate more HOs per day server wide. I wouldn't mind being able to choose your HO at the end to help make up for less "farming" and less people to trade with on the spot at the end.
Just a curious question, let's say I completed this Recluse SF at 6pm on the 20th and received my Recluse reward, then decided I wanted to do another just to get my hands on a 2nd quick HO since I loved the first so much. Can I start my next Relcuse SF at 8pm the 20th but wait to finish it up the last mission at 6:09 pm on the 21st to insure that I get my HO? or do I have to wait 24 hours before even starting the next Recluse SF to insure my reward?
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This is per character. So to crack one villain in a timely manner you need about 3 SF raid ready toons per 5-8 SG members to get off 3 enhancements in one day.
When you can still pull in 3 hami-os at one Hami raid (if your system can run 3 accounts at once) before one Lord Recluse SF is completed; My my very balanced for CoH/CoV. Villains on equal ground in only 2 more years.
CoH
Radion-50 rad/rad
Dyre Knight-50 ill/storm
Shadow-Fall-50 kat/reg
Iceomatrix-50 ice/nrg tank
Goth-Chylde-50 dark/dark scpr
Stealth Man-50 fire/dev blas
CoV
Old Dirty Blaster-50 Rad/Rad
Vampiro-50 SS/Nrg
Repo Man-50 EM/Nin
Under Boss-50 Thugs/Dark
Violet Burn-50 Fire/Psi
(54 other lvl 50 toons)
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This is per character. So to crack one villain in a timely manner you new about 3 SF raid ready toons per 5-8 SG members to get off 3 enhancements in one day.
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Indeed, I'm suddenly more motivated to find a role for my stalker on a Recluse team.
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This server smells funny...
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You're smelling Satan's Breath. He needs a mentos.
Question for those saying that the villains need to catch up - Do you think it is balanced that because some heroes have been around 2 years, Villains should be able to get lots of SHOEs quickly? Doesn't that make it unbalanced the other way, as new heroes then get HOs slower than new villains?
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So, once every 24 hours, and only 7 people to trade with?
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This will probably mean MORE to trade with, as people can do the SF at any time, meaning people who can't make Hami raids will be getting them. Right now, Hami raids need organisation. The Recluse SF will need 8 people at any time.
I don't think all you people actually know how difficult this SF really is. You're going to have people failing more often then passing. Consider how often a Hami raid fails compared to this. Then consider if you need help in a Hami raid you can always bring more people. You're stuck with your 8 person team in this SF. If you didn't bring what is needed you're out of luck.
The only reason my team walked through this so easily is because we have almost the perfect setup played by highly skilled players coordinating our efforts almost perfectly. And we still had a hard time. I really doubt that most teams will be that good; let alone bring the right powersets.
Starfield,
Would you mind (or anyone on the team) commenting on the capabilities of the AVs? Things like buff/debuffer, purple triangles (mag resistance), health, other capabilities or weaknesses?
Dominators don't need mitigation from their secondaries. Even if they did, there's ice (slows), psi (-recharge), and fire and elec (death).
-Talen_Lee commenting on Energy Assault's Utility
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The only reason my team walked through this so easily is because we have almost the perfect setup played by highly skilled players coordinating our efforts almost perfectly. And we still had a hard time. I really doubt that most teams will be that good; let alone bring the right powersets.
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You might be absolutely right about that (I have to differ to your judgement considering you have done it and I haven't even tried yet) but that means there is a severe issue with this SF that needs to be addressed. I would be "I quit this game" kind of angry if the only way I could get some SHOEs for my Dominator was to level up a Corruptor to go through the SF for him.
Dominators don't need mitigation from their secondaries. Even if they did, there's ice (slows), psi (-recharge), and fire and elec (death).
-Talen_Lee commenting on Energy Assault's Utility
I do think however, that the 24 hour limit should be changed to 20 hours. It is still basically once a day, but it means that someone isn't going to not get a SHOE because he starts playing at the same time but one SF takes longer than another.
OR, make it so that it is actually one SHOE per actual day. Between 00:00:00 and 23:59:59 server time, you can only get one SHOE. That way, playing at different times each day doesn't matter.
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So, once every 24 hours, and only 7 people to trade with?
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This will probably mean MORE to trade with, as people can do the SF at any time, meaning people who can't make Hami raids will be getting them. Right now, Hami raids need organisation. The Recluse SF will need 8 people at any time.
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Except that in the HO raid people are generally trading all at once...it's a relatively self-contained event. Now you'll need to hunt down people that want to trade with you...maybe using the message board, maybe set up a special trade channel...easy enough, maybe, but this is the EXACT reason I choose coh over other MMOGs...if I'm going to have to play the Uber-Raid, Phat-Loot and Trade Game, then I might as well go to a MMOG that's set up to handle it (Like WOW's in game auction system)
I just find it incredibly stupid that this is essentially a raid-less, Lootless (in terms of drops) game for 49 levels and then turns into EQ planes Raid Hell at the end.
Honestly, I couldn't really see much with all the buffs/debuffs and fx flying around. Was spending more time worrying on other things.
They all had around 30k hp.
The obvious is that Numina is a empath with fort, both RAs. She has psionic attacks. Didn't notice if she had heal other or rez since we took her out first. Didn't notice if she had a nuke or not.
Sister psyche is mind/ff. She bubbles her allies and uses psionic attacks. She has a very accurate nuke when her hp is low. Took out over half my uber buffed team while she was debuffed. We just barely took her after she nuked us. Only me and foley survived to finish her.
Manticore uses his AoE arrow attack ALOT. He is the most accurate of the 8 and hit us more then anyone else. Really annoying but it didn't hit as hard since it was a DoT thingy. Looked like he had leadership. Will confirm it on our next run.
Positron seemed exactly like anti-matter.
Synapse move REALLY FAST. We could not slow his movement speed at all. So we had MM pets surround him so he couldn't move
Citadel is weak. He uses Nova when he's low on hp.
Back Ally Brawler has huge hp. He took the longest to take down and uses unstoppable when his hp is low. His AoE and ST attack hit really really hard.
Statesman is meh. He hits really hard but he didn't hit us He uses some kind of lightning nuke at the end.
Very awesome!
Anyway, it's much cooler than beating a Jell-O mold!
Good job guys, you made all us n00b-rushers proud!