Once every 24 hours versus once a week, Shall we do the math or are the numbers obvious?
Congrats on completeing this, a reward well earned.
You also have to remeber pre-HO nerf servers were doing daily raids with some of the servers have 2 instances of the Hive. So 2 Hami-o's a day for about 30-45 days is ALOT. I know my friends account has everyone of his primary powers have HOs and almost all of his secondaries. Now if they were double boxing, that's 4 HOs in a day. That's alot of days villains have to wait...
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I asked Customer Service to grant you all the Annihilator badge this morning, so you should all have it by now. It's not working in the game yet.
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Can you ask customer service to grant me the hard luck badge I lost due to an undocumented bug that they refuse to compensate me for and I cannot redo the mission?
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NOTE: You can only earn the The Lord Recluse Strike Force reward once every *24 hours* This is by design to help prevent farming.
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Was a pleasure beating you up last night Posi 0:-)
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The villains are the ones who will have it easy getting thier sHO's.
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Just for the record, I wouldn't say "Easy". I will be very impressed the first time a PUG does this. And I mean a group of 8 complete strangers, not using Ventrillo...
In my oppinion, because of the difficulty of the event (it is difficult) and because of the massive head start heroes have, and the fact that heroes can get 120 HO's per night, villains will NEVER catch up to them. I would wager that on any given night Villains will bring in 32 SHOEs tops.
~Walks Among You~
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I understand some servers are able to raid the blob more often than others, but the simple fact is that Heroes can far outpace Villains for enhancements, if not in sheer number of enhancements than in quality of enhancements through trading.
I was an early and often raider. All of my primary powers and almost all of my secondary powers are fully HO'd on my main. My main has nine HO's in his tray, and I have two alternate characters each with 10. I have not even gone to a raid in 8-10 months.
To say that the 24-hour timer somehow gives villains in advantage over heroes in the procurement of these enhancements is ludicrous. I can understand how some might think the strike force is "easier" to arrange since it involves only eight members, but the narrow range of viable builds and the extremely small trading pool completely negates that. We are looking at six months to a year, if not longer, before there is any parity between heroes and villains -- and then only on the builds that are able to participate (or those accounts that are sharing their enhancements with their second or third characters).
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You also have to remeber pre-HO nerf servers were doing daily raids with some of the servers have 2 instances of the Hive
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Those 2 a days were rare even on really active servers. And really that mentality only lasted a couple months. And if even there was 2 a day not everyone could do them so most only got the 1 HO on any particular day. Double raiding was a bit much for most to stomach.
Most importantly CoH has been around for 1.5 years before CoV. The heroes earned all thier toys by committing that time to CoH. They SHOULD have a starting advantage. People who just started playing with CoV have to realize there is a whole 'nother world in this game thats far more established. There is no fairness to it. If anything the devs should be compensating the hero side more for thier continued patronage, but even with I7 this update was aimed primarily at the villains. You guys are getting a bit spoiled on your side of the game 
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For this SF you ONLY need 8 villains. Thats it. That means villains can easily throw down and get thier sHO every single day if they want.
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You obviously haven't tried this SF. It isn't exactly easy to complete. I wonder if I never posted how we did it and our builds if anyone else would have a clue as to how to beat it. Judging from the sheer amount of PMs I recieved from people asking how to do this, my guess is that most players would not even think of doing what we did. Honestly, when I laid out the plan my team basically yelled at me calling me a crazy moron. It's a good thing they know me or else none of this would have worked 
Now consider your average team trying this. How many do you think will actually be able to pull this off? Even with AV/Hero regen nerf, which doesn't matter, you still have to find a way to separate 8 L54 Heroes, which I don't think is possible, and then not die to their attacks that can hit you for over 3k damage.
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This SF is not something that will fail due to lack of #'s. Matter of fact once the AV's regen are brought down a bit as stated by positron you can probably due this TF with 5 or 6 of the ideal powersets.
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Do you honestly think their regen rate matters to make that much of a difference? If you have the 'ideal' powersets it won't. If you don't then you aren't going to complete this. It's that simple.
So now lets look at the math. 8 villains with the IDEAL powersets. Every 24 hours. Who can actually complete this SF. You're only looking at the hardcore SGs. No average player or PUG will be able to do this (unless they happen to luck out and get the required powersets) not without this SF being seriously reworked. And if it is reworked to be easier, then guess what the same hardcore SGs will be completing this and your average PUG will probably still fail. Like you said, This is about numbers. You have to have the right amount of this or that or else you fail. And you have a smaller pool of people to choose from.
Now of the teams that do pass. That gives you only 8 SHOs to trade per team per successful run. How many Teams and people do you think have the right powersets to do this? Now how many of those right powersets will happen to fall into the same team? My guess is not many and not for a long time. So you only have a handful of people being able to complete this regularly.
Add in the fact that you can't choose your SHO so your entire team could potentially get a lysosome or another SHO that none of you can use. Too bad there is no one else to trade with. Unlike the other 75-150+ people after a hami raid.
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If that's the case... considering the required team setup and the fact that there will be only 8 people to trade with at the time, can we please have the option to CHOOSE our SHO? It'll definitely be a huge quality of life improvement.
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/agree, and HOs are in far greater abundance for heroes, even if you're a new 45+ on the block, if you step up you can get one weekly. If you actually get a comptent team together for this SF, you can't repeat it right after, and if everyone can't show up the next day or whenever, you're in more trouble than not having enough holders at a raid, since you're locked IN the TF and can't do anything else, and if someone quits you might as well give up because 7 villains vs. 8 54 heroes is just a bit too much sounding, though it could be possible. There are points for and against this, but I think just allowing us to at least choose the SHO would be a big leap forward, and for the next month+ we will have a REALLY small trading pool, and even when this SF becomes 'regular', it won't be as easy to get the SHO you want, whereas at a raid you just broadcast right after Hami pops.
Congrats on the success. Only request I have is to do it again with the ATs you didn't have the first time so we can cut down the level of doom noise on some forums. It's not like you have anything else to do right? 
The details and screenshots were a nice touch - thanks again.
Congrats!
As I look at the team make-up, I notice that it's eerily familiar to what I suggested back in the day:
All Ice Corruptors with double /Rad and one /Kin. I didn't think MMs could do it but the /Dark and the /FF probably kept the AVs from hitting.
No Doms, only 1 Brute. I opted for 2 more brutes instead of the MMs (I figure they could hit harder) but the extra Buffs/Debuffs from the MMs probably really helped.
Kudos to you!
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Gratz!
What level was everyone?
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Per account or per character?
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Character.
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First off. Grats. Second, don't you (not "you" specific, but "you" general) think it is a little unfair to even be able to get HOs in an 8 man team on the villain side when it isn't even possible to do such a thing on the hero side? At least I don't think an 8 man has taken down hami (I didn't read though 15 pages, so this might have been mentioned)
Oh, yeah, is the 24 hours from the start time or finish time? (i.e. if I start it at 6pm every night will that work?)
Also I haven't done the SF, so I'm just kinda BSing here, but I think you may be overstating that you HAVE to have the specific builds. Only because how many 45+ levs are even out there right now to run it? (much less 50s) You obviously had a smaller "pool" of powersets to work with than say 2 or 3 months from now when there are more 50s running around, so you probably don't want to discount various teams being able to complete it with different powersets.
Scatterpack Rad/Rad
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At least I don't think an 8 man has taken down hami (I didn't read though 15 pages, so this might have been mentioned)
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i think that argument is only valid if heroes aren't able to get the neccessary numbers to do a hami raid on a regular basis. (there are exeptions, but those are few)
if all else, the villain raid is more restrictive considering they have to get "the right team" makeup in order to do this. they have to get this build, and that build, and the other, and fit it into an 8 man team.
secondly, in hami raids, people have the luxury to leech if you feel like it. at it's infancy, the villain raid requires the participation of all the members, 300% longer than at typical raid, etc.
villain raids are definitely more complicated than hami-raids.
the reward selection is definitely justified.
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anyway, i think this issue should be discussed on a different thread, i think cricket made a point to not stray off the OP's topic on another thread.
who lives in a pineapple under the sea?
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Completed on Thursday June 15, 2006. 12pm Eastern. Started at 9pm Eastern. 3 hours Total.
Rewards:
Archvillain badge - You have claimed victory over the greatest hero of paragon city, the mighty Statesman!
Servant of Recluse badge - You have broken Paragon's City's 'best.' Let everyone fear you!
Synthetic Hamidon Origin Enhancement.
Team Members:
Isyss - ice/rad corr
Misstress Foley - fire/fire brute
IceMaiden - ice/cold corr
Despair - ice/rad corr
Walks Among You - necro/ff MM
Skrape - ice/kin corr
Arctic-Doom - ice/thermal corr
Necroshade - necro/dark MM
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Gratz from one Empire to another. Well done fellow villains. Well done. We salute you.
Just wanted to drop by and say grats!
Grats!
Huge grats guys, I'm looking forward to this for sure.
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SHOE. I love it. You complete Recluse's Strike Force and he gives you a SHOE.
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and D'URH.....
GRATZ GUYS!! Awesome awesome awesome job!!
"I'm not scared of anyone or anything Angie. Isn't that the way life should be?"
Jack Hawksmoor, The Authority.
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I opted for 2 more brutes instead of the MMs (I figure they could hit harder) but the extra Buffs/Debuffs from the MMs probably really helped
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The MM's served another purpose too ;-)
As far as levels it was posted earlier, but for a recap:
We were all level 50, except for Necro, he was 47/48 for the mission.
~Walks Among You~
Amazing job everyone. Gratz.
I'm wondering what the lowest level the SF could be completed at.
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Most importantly CoH has been around for 1.5 years before CoV. The heroes earned all thier toys by committing that time to CoH. They SHOULD have a starting advantage. People who just started playing with CoV have to realize there is a whole 'nother world in this game thats far more established. There is no fairness to it. If anything the devs should be compensating the hero side more for thier continued patronage, but even with I7 this update was aimed primarily at the villains. You guys are getting a bit spoiled on your side of the game
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There is no two sides to the game. Everyone has the same access (assuming you bought the expansion).
The problem is balance. It is just that simple.
PvP sucks when the heroes have grossly superior EPPs and tons of HOs, whereas villains have sucky, unrespeccable PPPs and a trickly of SHOs.
Congratulations!
Expect a corruptor nerf next patch!
Really hope that this SF wont flat out require 5 corruptors on every team. My main is a stalker and i doubt id ever be able to get a team if that was the way. One of the things I love so much about this game is the fact that there is no perfect team. Stalkers only bring burst damage to the table so i doubt they would be very useful against 8 heroes, just get constantly one shot. (im a little bitter i think =p )
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If that's the case... considering the required team setup and the fact that there will be only 8 people to trade with at the time, can we please have the option to CHOOSE our SHO? It'll definitely be a huge quality of life improvement.
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QFE.
Honestly, my MM can use up to 4-6 synthetic lysos, maybe a few centrioles, but other than that getting the right set is going to Suck.
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So not only do heroes have a 1.5 year jump on farming HOs over the villains, but villains will NEVER catch up...by design.
How many more advantages are you going to give to heroes over villains?