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That's not cool! 
I'm officially so mad right now.
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we can't farm Hami either
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Right. But I think what upsets the villain SHOE-seekers is that heroes have been successfully raiding the level 50 Hamidon for almost a year and a half now. Villains have a lot of catching up to do.
The problem is, if the Devs allow the Recluse SF to be farmed at this point, what happens a year or more from now when villains have caught up? They would then be the ones who were at a great advantage if they could do this SF 3 or 4 times a day (and some would, given the reward). At THAT point, the Devs would "nerf" the SF, by making it so you can't get the SHOE more than once per day, and then we'd have a much larger outrage because of the "nerf."
I personally think villains should be "allowed" to play catch-up a little bit, but I don't see a way to really do that without making this SF farmable now and then stopping that later, and we all know what the reaction would be from that. At the very least, villains should be able to pick their SHOE, but then you'd have heroes complaining about that.
I do think the 24-hour thing is a bit too limiting. They should make it based on a calendar day instead. You still effectively couldn't get more than 1 in each 24-hour period, but it would allow for much more flexibility in people's play times and availability.
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we can't farm Hami either
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Farm him no, do it more then once a day yes. The 24 hour is too servere. It should be 12 to 18 at the most if you want to limit farming. Hami can be done up to 3 times a day on some servers. Some people work varied schedules and will have a hard enough time trying to get together with friends just to run it once a week. For a lot of people doing it once on Friday or Saturday and once on Sunday is all that can happen. This change will not prevent powergamers from running it multiple times with different toons.
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As opposed to as often as possible with Hami? Not exactly fair, since for hami, good SG's will just share acct info around, and folks will run multiple boxes since you can just stand there for an hour and get your friends an HO.
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I suppose the truth of this statement depends on one's definition of the word "good."
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You can whine all you want F but at the end of the day they still haqve more HOs than you.
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Since I don't ever PVP, I'm not quite sure I follow how it would matter to me how many HOs they have.
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As opposed to as often as possible with Hami? Not exactly fair, since for hami, good SG's will just share acct info around, and folks will run multiple boxes since you can just stand there for an hour and get your friends an HO.
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I suppose the truth of this statement depends on one's definition of the word "good."
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You can whine all you want F but at the end of the day they still haqve more HOs than you.
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Since I don't ever PVP, I'm not quite sure I follow how it would matter to me how many HOs they have.
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They are better in PVE too and will b3e universially choosen over you both for their skill, their powersets, and their HOs.
Bah, I was out of town most of the week....but great job all
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I'm officially so mad right now.
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we can't farm Hami either
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Farm him no, do it more then once a day yes. The 24 hour is too servere. It should be 12 to 18 at the most if you want to limit farming. Hami can be done up to 3 times a day on some servers. Some people work varied schedules and will have a hard enough time trying to get together with friends just to run it once a week. For a lot of people doing it once on Friday or Saturday and once on Sunday is all that can happen. This change will not prevent powergamers from running it multiple times with different toons.
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well I will bravo the people to sit through 3 Hami Raids in one day, cause for me personally and I think most people on Infinity would say so too, once a day is more than enough
Shadow Empire completes it again!
started Saturday 3:18pm est. finished Saturday 5:50pm est.
Team members (All members of Shadow Empire):
Isyss - L50
Mistress Foley - L50
IceMaiden - L50
Despair - L50
CHERRY - L47
Walks Among You - L50
Radiant foley - L50
Arctic-Doom - L50
BTW, The descriptions for these SHOs are different. So far, for dam/mez, heal/end, and acc/mez it says Numina magically synthesized it. Dam/range, dam/acc says Positron replicated it.
One of our teammates DCed in the fight against Statesman. We stopped and waited for him to come back. He did not receive a SHO at the end. Really wack.
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Mission 1: Clear Long Bow Base
3:18 Started
:23 Chasers dead
:26 Bombs planted
:27 Scientist arrives at terminal
:28 Crimson Dead
Mission 2: Clear Malta Base
3:33 Start
:36 Kronos Titan killed / key
:42 Acquired rifle
:43 Slinger dead
:44 Exit
Mission 3: Defeat some people in the future
3:50 Start
:51 Hero 1 Dead
:52 Hero 2 Dead
:54 Hero 3 Dead
:59 Hero 4 Dead (we had some problems with the phase shifting)
4:00 Exit
Mission 4: Clear Vindy base
4:06 Start
:10 Hero 1 dead
:12 Hero 2 dead
:14 Hero 3 dead
:15 Hero 4 dead
:16 Hero 5 dead (1st Kill)
:16 Hero 5 dead (2nd Kill)
:22 Got key to Liberty's door
:26 Liberty down
:26 Exit
Mission 5: Defeat the freedom phalanx
4:55 Started (we had a LOT of dissconnects 
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:04 Hero 1 dead
:15 Hero 2 dead
:25 Hero 3 dead
:31 Hero 4 dead
:37 Hero 5 dead
:39 Hero 6 dead
:41 Hero 7 dead
:42 My game crashes, so the team had to stop, Foley tanks states for awhile while I do a full file scan
:50 Statesmen dead
I'm very disapointed that I got 2 Single Origin enhanements on this final mission, I'll wait though to see if the Devs help me out. It is my hope that this bug will be fixed and that my SHO will be given to me, for my 2.5 hours of effort I've spent.
I have faith that the Dev staff does keep a log of these things and I'll be fairly compensated.
I am very please with the duration required to beat these, they are right on par with Hamidon, good work on that Devs 
~Walks Among You~
Shadow Empire
Once the servers become more stable and bugs are fixed, this should be much easier and smoother.
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What will be universally chosen over me?
Are you saying that the players who own these characters will be "universally chosen over me" to do something, like a Hami-raid? Or a pickup group?
* I don't do Hami-raids
* I don't even play my level 50 because RP-wise she was killed and resurrected as a (now 30th level) Kheldian
* I don't play on pickup groups, ever.
* No one in my SG has any HOs, nor wants any. We don't play level 50 raid content... we have 50s, but mostly retire them and start over with alts.
* Even if I played my level 50, I can do so on Invicible without any HOs. The game's already too easy -- why do I need to make it easier?
I was addresssing the original point, which was that "good" Supergroups are those that do Hami-raids over and over again and powerlevel each other's toons to Hami SOs and the likes. I think that's an inaccurate generalization, because it depends on your definition of the word "good." Certainly, there's nothing WRONG with what they are doing, and I would agree it is a "good raiding SG." But not that generally it is a "good" SG, or that it is better than one that does not do this. It depends on your GOALS.
The goal of our SG is to roleplay, have fun, and enjoy the regular content of the game. None of us have interest in raids. I suppose to someone like you that makes me inferior. I prefer not to judge people "superior" or "inferior" but rather, to just let people play the game the way the wish. I'd never suggest that my group's M.O. was the only "good" way to be... and I think it's unreasonable to suggest that a Hami-raiding uberleet SG is the only way to be "good" either.
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well hey major gratz if u did beat it but hard to beleave u beat 8 lv 52 heroes but if u did gratz so how did u over come the 8 lv52 heroes b/c we cant
[@Brewha] [Lv50-Necro/Dark][Lv50-Spines/SR][Lv50-Thug/Dark][Lv50-Martial arts/Shield] [Lv50-Sonic/Storm][Lv50-Rad/Rad][Lv50-War Mace/Granite][Lv50-Ice/Pain][Lv50-Fire/Psi] [Lv50-SS/Fire][Lv50-Granite/Energy][Lv50-Fort.][Lv50-Earth/Elec][Lv50-AR/Thermal] [Lv50-Energy/Will][Lv50-Energy/Kin][Lv50-Ninja Blade/Dark][Lv50-Crab][Lv50-Fire/Energy] [Lv50-Empathy/Energy][Lv50-Cold/Archery]
1st off its 8 level 54s and we rushed them read the whole post there are pics in there of us fighting and killing them and pics of the badges why would we lie....
miss foley
mistress foley
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It is hard to believe it, especially with that spelling! ;-)
The first time we killed the first of the 8 heroes we could hardly believe it ourselves, let alone the remaining 7.
This thread has a congrats from a red-name, I don't think they'd come in here and say congrats if it wasn't true... but hey I could be wrong.
And Insp, what the heck is your major issue? Didn't your mom ever teach you the golden rule?
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Apparently not....
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Gratz. Just a question.
I noticed ALL the corruptors were ice/*. Is your SG theme based around ice?
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Looks like there is a way to pull. We just haven't found it yet.
Now if I could only get a comment about the SHOEs...
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I would imagine that the pulling strategy quite likely involves splitting the team up into 2 groups - 1 Corr heavy, the other MM, and Taunting Brute heavy, picking your target, and making sure the rest of the group is too distracted to follow...once there's good distance between them, TP Ally the other half of the group over to join the fight...
...but I could be wrong...
GOTTA get Crimson Threat those last 6 levels!
Daddy needs a new pair of SHOEs!
I see this getting old real real quick......CONGRATZ, again.
Could we get the AT's of Cherry and Radient Foley?
And where did you get that info from Positron? I read this thread and didn't see it- (I could have missed it) Thanx!!
"I'm not scared of anyone or anything Angie. Isn't that the way life should be?"
Jack Hawksmoor, The Authority.
They were both Corr's.
Radiant Foley was Fire/Thermal [not sure on fire part]
CHERRY is something/Rad
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Could we get the AT's of Cherry and Radient Foley?
And where did you get that info from Positron? I read this thread and didn't see it- (I could have missed it) Thanx!!
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They are both Rads, Fire/Rad and Ice/Rad. Our Therm was Arctic.
We only posted the second win to say that the first wasn't a fluke, and because it was an all Shadow Empire effort (although we <3 Skrape's )
The info from Posi came from a PM.
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What will be universally chosen over me?
Are you saying that the players who own these characters will be "universally chosen over me" to do something, like a Hami-raid? Or a pickup group?
* I don't do Hami-raids
* I don't even play my level 50 because RP-wise she was killed and resurrected as a (now 30th level) Kheldian
* I don't play on pickup groups, ever.
* No one in my SG has any HOs, nor wants any. We don't play level 50 raid content... we have 50s, but mostly retire them and start over with alts.
* Even if I played my level 50, I can do so on Invicible without any HOs. The game's already too easy -- why do I need to make it easier?
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CONGRATULATIONS!!!
If you don't play the game, you might as well be in There!
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Can we change the 24 hours to 22? This would ensure that people who start the TF at approximately the same time every night won't accidentally cheat themselves out of a SHO if they finish it a little faster than they did yesterday.
Just a thought.
I'm sorry but you clearly violated the exclamation point rule. You clearly used less then 15, thus your statement becomes one of less importance. In order for anyone to take you seriuosly you must use 15, or more, exclamation points in a row.
- Go_sabres
Great job all.
Can anyone tell me how to unlock Recluse as a contact? Do you need to do every arc for your patron, or do you only need the badge that unlocks the patron power?
It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
-- Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World
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What will be universally chosen over me?
Are you saying that the players who own these characters will be "universally chosen over me" to do something, like a Hami-raid? Or a pickup group?
* I don't do Hami-raids
* I don't even play my level 50 because RP-wise she was killed and resurrected as a (now 30th level) Kheldian
* I don't play on pickup groups, ever.
* No one in my SG has any HOs, nor wants any. We don't play level 50 raid content... we have 50s, but mostly retire them and start over with alts.
* Even if I played my level 50, I can do so on Invicible without any HOs. The game's already too easy -- why do I need to make it easier?
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CONGRATULATIONS!!!
If you don't play the game, you might as well be in There!
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Your such a bundle of joy, theres more to this game then that and you know it. Its my $15 a month, Ill spend it to play how I want, if I dont want to do some of the things (For example, PvP) that the devs have put in the game you cant attack me for that, its how I choose to spend my time and money.
you don't unlock him, its like any other SF you just talk to him when your in level range which is 45-50. you need 8 people for the sf, have fun gl
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Congratulations guys! nice work!!
Now the devs can nerf all the powersets that were involved, just kidding.
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First: Congratulations to all. Welldone.
2nd: The nerfing of powersets is a real consern of mine. It seems that anytime players figure out a way to beat something the Devs nerf it (Hamidon attacking while held, anyone). I really hope that I'm wrong here because it's not RAD, ICE, DARK, KIN, or COLD's fault that the Devs put huge Regen on the AV/Heroes, but because of it these sets are highly-valued presently. It's not a REAL case of them being overpowered, it's a Dev-created senario. The Devs made those sets more valuable with the changes.
Any nerf would at this point would be a bad reaction to bad design decisions, rather than fixing the bad design in the first place.