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Updating Hamidon Enhancement Guide

anachrodragon

By anachrodragon,
Posted on: 2006-04-25 24:49 in Player Guides

 

Posted

If Spectral Terror could make use of Enzymes, it should also have been listed under Lysosomes, since the Accuracy of ST is more frequently slotted than EndRed. However, I checked and Spectral Terror does not take ToHit Debuff or Defense Debuff enhancements. I think it should be removed from the list for Enzymes, since it would only use one (EndRed) of the three enhancements.

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*Updating as I find out more*

Uplink_OoT did a great job a while back, compiling a list of Hamidon Enhancements. What I'd like to do is put together a list of which powers the more 'Exotic' HO's can help. I want to be able to tell people "'X' HO affects these powers ...". Help fill in the list with whatever you can.

Easy ones:
Nucleolus Exposure - Damage and Accuracy:
-Too many to list. If you don’t know what can use this, you shouldn’t have bought the account. ;-)

Centriole Exposure - Damage and Range:
-See above. (Note - the range portion of some melee attacks cannot be increased, even though they may affect a larger than normal range. Be sure the power normally accepts Range + Damage enhancements before slotting this)

Ribosome Exposure - Increase Damage Resistance and Endurance Reduction:
-All – Power Pools – Tough
-APP - Blaster - Electrical Mastery – Charged Armor
-APP - Blaster - Force Mastery - Temporary Invulnerability, Force of Nature
-APP - Blaster - Fire Mastery – Fire Shield
-APP - Controller - Fire Mastery – Fire Shield
-APP – Defender – Dark Mastery – Dark Embrace
-APP - Defender/Controller – Psychic Mastery (Defender) - Mind Over Body
-Defender/Controller - Kinetics - Increase Density
-Defender/Controller - Sonic Resonance - Sonic Barrier, Sonic Haven, Sonic Dispersion
-Defender/Controller - Storm - Steamy Mist
-Defender – Dark - Shadowfall
-Peacebringer - Luminous Aura - Shining Shield, Thermal Shield, Quantum Shield, White Dwarf (does not cost much End, might be a waste), Light Form
-Scrapper – Dark Armor – Murky Cloud, Obsidian Shield, Dark Embrace
-Tank/Scrapper – Invulnerability – Temporary Invulnerability, Unyielding, Unstoppable
-Tank – Stone Armor – Brimstone Armor, Granite Armor
-Warshade Secondary – Gravity Shield, Twilight Shield, Penumbral Shield, Umbral Aura, Black Dwarf (does not cost much End, might be a waste)


Microfilament Exposure – Travel Speed Increase (Run, Fly, and Jump) plus Endurance Reduction:
-All - Power Pools - Hover (Takes minimal end), Flight, Group Flight
-All - Power Pools - Speed, Super Speed
-All - Power Pools - Leaping, Combat Jump (Takes minimal End), Super Leap
-Defender/Controller - Kinetic - Speed Boost
-Defender/Controller - Kinetic Inertial Reduction
-Defender/Controller - Kinetic - Siphon Speed (bonus -speed/recharge debuff on opponent)
-Peacebringer – White Dwarf (Probably not the best place to put these, Dwarf has something akin to Combat Jumping) , Quantum Flight (There are reports that Q-Fly is already at the Fly Speed cap, in which case this enhancement would be useless) , Nova, Group Energy Flight
-Peacebringer Inherent powers - Energy Flight, Combat Flight
-Scrapper – Super Reflexes – Elude – Not optimal slotting, but can use this.
-Warshade Primary - Umbral Blast - Dark Nova (Probably not worth slotting Fly)
-Warshade Secondary – Black Dwarf (Probably not worth slotting for this)

-There is a Debate as to whether you should slot these into Fitness -> Swift or Scrapper-> Super Reflexes-> Quickness. If you use Fly, you might benefit from Slotting these here, as they can serve as both Run Speed AND Fly Speed enhancers.

Golgi Exposure - Heal and Endurance Reduction:
-Anyone with a Medicine power pool Heal,
-Anyone with a 'heal self' power (Tanks/scrappers, PB, WS)
-Defenders/Controllers with a Heal power (Radiant aura, Twilight grasp, etc.)
-Peacebringer - Glowing Touch, Essence Boost, Reform Essence
-Peacebringer - Luminous Aura - White Dwarf - White Dwarf Sublimation
-Scrapper Dark Melee/Dark Armor - Dark Regeneration, Siphon Life
-Scrapper – Regen – Reconstruction, Dull Pain, Integration, Instant Healing
-Tank – Ice Armor – Hoarfrost
-Tank/Scrapper – Invulnerability – Dull Pain
-Tank – Stone Armor – Rooted, Earth’s Embrace
-Warshade – Essence Drain, Stygian Circle
-Warshade Secondary – Black Dwarf – Black Dwarf Drain


Peroxisome Exposure - Damage and Mez: (ie: Hold, sleep, stun, etc .. but NOT knockback) . (In some cases, the damage is minor)
-APP - Blaster - Fire Mastery – Char (Damage barely noticeable, not preferred slotting)
-APP - Blaster – Ice Manipulation – Chillblain
-APP - Blaster – Electrical Mastery – Shocking Bolt
-APP – Scrapper – Darkness Mastery – Tenebrous Tentacles
-Blasters/Tankers – Energy Melee - Total Focus, Bone Smasher, Energy Punch
-Blaster – Archery – Stunning Shot
Blaster - Electricity Manipulation - Shocking Grasp (good damage & hold)
Charged Brawl * (20% chance to Sleep (mag 3)) , Havoc Punch * (50% chance to Sleep (mag 3)) , Thunder Strike * (50% chance to Stun (mag 3)) (*May not be worth it)
-Blaster – Ice - freeze ray, bitter freeze ray (*damage is insignificant on freeze ray. Mez hami-os will not increase chance to stun, and will not increase mags of attacks in energy punch.)
-Controller – Earth control: Stone Prison, Fossilize, Stone Cages, Stalagmites, Volcanic Gasses
-Controller – Ice control: Chilblain, Block of Ice, Frostbite, Flash Freeze
-Controller – Fire Control: Ring of Fire, Char, Fire Cages, Flashfire
-Controller – Gravity Control: Crush, Gravity Distortion, Crushing Field, Singularity
-Controller – Illusion Control – Blind
-Controller – Mind control: Mezmirize, Dominate, Terrify
-Defender – Dark Blast – Tenebrous Tentacles
-Defender - Radiation Blast – Cosmic Burst
-Defender – Psychic Blast - Subdue (Immobilize), Will Domination (sleep), Scramble Thoughts (disorient), Psychic Wail (disorient)
-Defender/Controller – Storm Summoning - Tornado
-Scrapper – Martial Arts - Thunder Kick (Disorient), Cobra Strike (Disorient, but not really worth using because CS damage is so low), Crippling Axe Kick (Immobilize), Eagle's Claw (Disorient)
-Tank – Energy Melee – Energy Transfer, Barrage
-Tank – Super Strength – Jab, Knockout Blow
-Peacebringer - Luminous Blast – Incandescent Strike
-Warshade – Gravimetric Snare, Gravity Well, Gravity Emanation (Damage is low for this one, so not considered ‘optimal’)


Endoplasm Exposure - Accuracy and Mez: (ie: Hold, sleep, stun, etc, but NOT knockback)
-APP - Blaster - Fire Mastery – Char
-APP - Blaster – Ice Manipulation – Chillblain
-APP - Blaster – Electrical Mastery – Shocking Bolt
-APP – Defender – Dark Mastery – Oppressive Gloom
-Blaster – Archery – Stunning Shot
-Blaster/Defender – Electrical Blast – Tesla Cage
Blaster - Electricity Manipulation - Shocking Grasp (good damage & hold)
Charged Brawl * (20% chance to Sleep (mag 3)) , Havoc Punch * (50% chance to Sleep (mag 3)) , Thunder Strike * (50% chance to Stun (mag 3)) , Lightning Clap * (50% chance to Stun (mag 2) PBAoE) (*May not be worth it)
-Blasters/Tankers – Energy Melee - Total Focus, Bone Smasher, Energy Punch
-Controller – Earth control: Stone Prison, Fossilize, Stone Cages, Stalagmites, Salt Crystals, Volcanic Gasses
-Controller – Fire Control: Ring of Fire, Char, Fire Cages, Flashfire, Cinders
-Controller – Gravity Control: Crush, Gravity Distortion, Crushing Field, Gravity Distortion Field, Wormhole, Singularity
-Controller – Ice control: Chilblain, Block of Ice, Frostbite, Flash Freeze, Shiver, Glacier, Jack Frost
-Controller – Illusion Control – Blind, Flash, Deceive, Spectral Terror
-Controller – Mind control: Mesmerize, Dominate, Terrify, Confuse, Mass Hypnosis, Total Domination, Mass Confusion
-Defender/Controller - Radiation Emission - EM Pulse
-Defender/Controller – Storm Summoning - Thunderclap
-Defender/Controller - Trick Arrow - Ice Arrow, EM Pulse Arrow
-Defender – Dark – Fearsome Stare, Dark Servant, Petrifying Gaze
-Defender – Psychic Blast - Subdue (Immobilize), Will Domination (sleep), Scramble Thoughts (disorient), Psychic Wail (disorient)
-Defender - Radiation Blast – Cosmic Burst
-Peacebringer - Luminous Blast – Pulsar, Incandescent Strike
-Scrapper Dark Melee/Dark Armor - Cloak of Fear, Oppressive Gloom, Touch of Fear
-Scrapper – Martial Arts - Thunder Kick (Disorient), Cobra Strike (Disorient), Crippling Axe Kick (Immobilize), Eagle's Claw (Disorient)
-Tank – Energy Melee – Energy Transfer, Barrage
-Tank – Super Strength – Knockout Blow
-Warshade – Gravimetric Snare, Gravity Well, Gravity Emanation, Inky Aspect


These next few can be tricky, and are the ones that need the most 'help'. Some might be GREAT for a few powers, but helpful in some that share two of the aspects of the HO. These are the ones MOST in use of some definition.


Lysosome Exposure - Increase ToHit and Defense Debuffs, and Increases Accuracy:
-APP - Body Mastery (Scrapper)/Energy Mastery (Tanker) - Laser Beam Eyes – Accuracy, Def Debuff
-Blaster - Devices - Smoke Grenade – Acc + To Hit Debuff
-Blaster – Assault Rifle – Burst - can use the Acc + Def Debuff Portions
-Controller - Earth Control – Earthquake - can use the ToHit + Def Debuff Portions (Some say this is not ‘optimal slotting’ – that’s for you to decide.)
-Controller - Fire Control – Smoke
-Controller - Mind Control – Terrify
-Defender - Dark - Twilight Grasp, Fearsome Stare and Dark Servant (acc + To hit Debuff)
-Defender - Dark Blast – All powers except Dark Pit – Accuracy + Tohit Debuff
-Defender - Radiation Blast - Neutrino Bolt, X-ray Beam, Irradiate, Electron Haze, Proton Volley, Cosmic Burst, Neutron Bomb, Atomic Blast
-Defender/Controller - Radiation Emission - Radiation Infection (uses 2 of 3)
-Defender/Controller – Sonic - Liquefy
-Defender/Control - Storm - Freezing rain - ACC and foe –DEF
-Defender/Controller - Trick Arrow - Flash Arrow - tohit debuff, accuracy
-Defender/Controller - Trick Arrow - Acid Arrow - defense debuff, accuracy
-Peacebringer - Luminous Blast – Gleaming Bolt, Glinting Eye, Gleaming Blast, Radiant Strike, Proton Scatter, Luminous Detonation, Incandescent Strike, Solar Flare, Photon Seekers, Dawn Strike, Nova/Dwarf Inherent attacks (Def Debuff is not large, but if you are slotting for Accuracy, you can use this in its place for some additional benefit)
-Scrapper - Broadsword – All attacks except Parry - can use the Acc + Def Debuff Portions (Note - even Parry can use it, until they decide to fix the Buff/Debuff Enhancement issue)
-Scrapper – Dark Melee – Nearly all attacks can use +ACC and foe –ACC
-Scrapper Dark Melee/Dark Armor - Cloak of Fear (Though Endoplasm and Enzymes are the preferred options)
-Scrapper - Katana – Sting of the Wasp, Gambler's Cut, Flashing Steel, The Lotus Drops, Soaring Dragon, Golden Dragonfly - can use the Acc + Def Debuff Portions


Enzyme Exposure - Increase ToHit and Defense Debuffs, and Endurance Reduction:
-APP - Body Mastery (Scrapper)/Energy Mastery (Tanker) - Laser Beam Eyes – End Red, Def Debuff
-Controller - Earth Control – Quicksand
-Controller - Fire Control – Smoke
-Controller – Mind Control – Terrify
-Defender - Radiation Blast - Irradiate, Neutron Bomb,
-Defender/Controller - Empathy - Fortitude* (*note - this could change someday if the Devs alter how buff/Debuff HO's are working)
-Defender/Controller - Force Field - Personal Force Field, Deflection Shield, Insulation Shield, Dispersion Bubble (under current bugged system only)
-Defender/Controller – Radiation Emission - Radiation Infection (uses all 3)
-Defender/Controller – Sonic - Liquefy (-DEF, -ACC, END redux)
-Defender/Control - Storm - Freezing rain - (-DEF, END redux)
-Defender/Control - Storm - Hurricane - (-ACC, END redux)
-Defender/Control - Storm - Tornado - (–DEF, END redux)
-Defender/Controller - Trick Arrow - Flash Arrow (tohit debuff, end reduction),
-Defender/Controller - Trick Arrow - Acid Arrow (defense debuff, end reduction),
-Defender/Controller - Trick Arrow - Oil Slick Arrow (defense debuff, end reduction)
-Defender - Dark - Darkest Night (ToHit Debuff + End Reduc), Dark Servant
-Peacebringer - Luminous Blast – Gleaming Bolt, Glinting Eye, Gleaming Blast, Radiant Strike, Proton Scatter, Luminous Detonation, Incandescent Strike, Solar Flare, Photon Seekers, Nova/Dwarf Inherent attacks (Def Debuff is not large, but if you are slotting for End Reduction, you can use this in its place for some additional benefit)
-Peacebringer – Dwarf Form attack powers
-Peacebringer – Nova Form Attack Powers
-Scrapper - Broadsword – All attacks except Parry - can use the End Reduction + Def Debuff Portions (Note - even Parry can use it, until they decide to fix the Buff/Debuff Enhancement issue)
-Scrapper Dark Melee/Dark Armor - Cloak of Fear
-Scrapper - Katana – Sting of the Wasp, Gambler's Cut, Flashing Steel, The Lotus Drops, Soaring Dragon, Golden Dragonfly - can use the End Reduc + Def Debuff Portions



Membrane Exposure - Increase ToHit and Defense Buffs, and Increase Attack Rate:
-Any Aim/Buildup type power
-All - Power Pools - Leadership - Vengeance (uses all 3? Though I know you can't put Recharge reducers in it normally, so it probably just uses the first 2 parts)
-APP - Body Mastery (Scrapper)/Energy Mastery (Tanker) – Focused Accuracy - To hit buff and Recharge Reduc
-APP - Blaster - Force Mastery - Personal Force Field
-APP – Defender – Dark Mastery – Soul Drain
-Controller - Illusion Control - Superior Invisibility, Group Invisibility - Def buff, Recharge Reducer
-Defender/Controller - Empathy - Fortitude
-Defender/Controller - Force Field - Personal Force Field, Deflection Shield, Insulation Shield, Dispersion Bubble (note, some of these have very fast recharge times already, not Optimal)
-Scrapper – Broadsword – Parry (Value is disputed, but leaving this in)
-Scrapper Dark Melee/Dark Armor - Soul Drain
-Scrapper - Dark Armor – Cloak of Darkness (not recommended slotting, but can use 2 aspects)
-Scrapper - Katana – Divine Avalanche - Def Buff and Increase attack rate
-Scrapper – Martial Arts – Focus Chi – ToHit buff and Increase attack rate
-Scrapper – Super Reflexes – Elude – Def Buff and Attack rate increase
-Tank – Ice Armor – Energy Absorption (Defense, Increase attack rate) , Frozen Armor and Glacial Armor (Though very few people ever slot these for recharge, so this would not be the best choice)
-Tank – Super Strength - Rage - uses ToHit buff and Recharge rate.
-Tank/Scrapper – Invulnerability – Invincibility (not optimal slotting, but can use)
-Warshade Secondary - Umbral Aura - Shadow Cloak


Cytoskeleton Exposure - Increase ToHit and Defense Buffs, and Endurance Reduction:
-All - Power Pools - Leadership - Maneuvers (uses 2 of 3)
-All - Power Pools - Leadership - Tactics (uses 2 of 3)
-All - Power Pools - Leadership - Vengeance (uses all 3? Can you put End cost reduction in it?)
-All - Power Pools – Leaping – Combat Jumping (Not Recommended, but possible)
-APP - Body Mastery (Scrapper)/Energy Mastery (Tanker) – Focused Accuracy ToHit buff, End Reduc
-APP - Blaster - Force Mastery - Personal Force Field
-Controllers - Illusion Control – Superior Invisibility, Group Invisibility
-APP – Defender – Dark Mastery – Dark Embrace
-Defender/Controller - Empathy - Fortitude – Uses all 3
-Defender/Controller - Force Field - Personal Force Field, Deflection Shield, Insulation Shield, Dispersion Bubble
-Defender/Controller – Storm Summoning – Steamy Mist (Defense bonus is small, but can be enhanced)
-Defender - Dark - Shadowfall – Def Buff, End Red
-Peacebringer - Luminous Blast - Build up (not as useful as Membrane, but can be used here) , Bright Nova (Nova doesn't cost much, but if you have these and are slotting for ToHit anyway, you might as well reduce it even more) , Combat Flight (Though the End usage is so low this may be a waste of a Hami-O, depends on your specific usage and build, though)
-Scrapper – Broadsword – Parry (Value is disputed, but leaving this in)
-Scrapper - Dark Armor – Cloak of Darkness (not recommended slotting, but can use 2 aspects)
-Scrapper - Katana – Divine Avalanche - Def Buff and End Reduc
-Scrapper – Martial Arts – Focus Chi – ToHit buff and End Reduc (Not optimal slotting, though, as power is not high in End usage)
-Scrapper – Super Reflexes – Focused Fighting, Focused senses – Def Buff, End Red
-Scrapper – Super Reflexes – Evasion – Def Buff, End Red
-Tank/Scrapper - Invulnerability - Invincibility (uses all 3)
-Tank – Earth Armor - Rock Armor, Crystal Armor, Minerals, Granite Armor (all def buff/end red)
-Tank – Ice Armor – Frozen Armor, Glacial Armor (Def Buff, End Reduc)
-Warshade Primary - Umbral Blast - Dark Nova Bright Nova (Nova doesn't cost much, but if you have these and are slotting for ToHit anyway, you might as well reduce it even more.)
-Warshade Secondary - Umbral Aura - Shadow Cloak (does not use much end, slotting this is your decision)


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Removed:
Removed HO’s with + ACC from “-Defender/Control - Storm – Hurricane” and “-Defender/Control - Storm – Tornado” (Powers are Autohit in PvE, so do not need accuracy. Are they Autohit in PvP? Do I need to put them back in as PvP slotting only?)
(Removed from Enzyme) “-Controller - Illusion Control – Spectral Terror” (Spectral Terror does not take ToHit Debuff or Defense Debuff enhancements.)

*As Always, this is a Work in Progress. Questions? Comments? Additions? Reply, and I'll get them in, or we'll talk about them at least.

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-APP - Blaster – Ice Manipulation – Chillblain

This isn't an APP power.

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Can you set this up with Villian info on HOs? Since you have all of this information should transfer over except for different powers not on Hero side.

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Oh man I can't believe I missed this:

Peroxisome Exposure - Damage and Mez:
-Controller - Ice control: Jack Frost

Acc/Mez (Endoplasm, which is there already) is good, but so is Dam/Mez. If they do affect the slows as well as holds, both of them will be affecting 3 aspects of Jack.

Jack can take Damage, Acc, Hold Duration, End Reduction, Range, Recharge Reduction, and Slow.

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The following are valid if the /Mez portion of Hamidons affect slows.

If the Endoplasms and Peroxisomes affect slows then:
Controller-APP-Ice Mastery-Ice Storm

I know for a fact that Ice Storm can take both Damage and Slow enhancements, as the respec I did last night I was still able to slot both there. I'm not sure about Ice Blast, but the Blaster version can. But I can check the controller version .

So, that would let the following work for both Endoplasms and Peroxisomes:
Blaster->Ice Blast-> Ice Bolt, Ice Blast, Frost Breath, Freeze Ray, Ice Storm, Bitter Ice Blast, Bitter Freeze Ray, Blizzard
Blaster->Ice Manipulation->Chilblain, Frozen Fists, Ice Sword, Freezing Touch
Tanker->Ice Melee-> Frozen Fists, Ice Sword, Frost, Freezing Touch, Greater Ice Sword

Endoplasms only:
Blaster->Ice Manipulation->Shiver, Frozen Aura (PVP).
Tanker->Ice Melee->Frozen Aura (PVP).

EDIT:
I'll have to wait for the Tool Tips to return, but I do know that before they disappeared, that slows were mistakenly reported as Recharges. In other words if you had both recharge and slow enhancements you would have 2 lines saying "recharge rate XX%".



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Great Guide!!! BuT for Dark Armor Cloak Of Fear

I find that 3 lyso's and 3 end redux work best for the power. your biggest problem comes with endurance on this scrapper, it more beneficial to have level 53 SO's for end redux than it is for accuracy where as your accuracy will sit at 3 level 50 acc's (lysosome) which is fine for PvE and PvP.

 

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Ok, now that the tooltips are back, the numbers are just plain confusing.

Add Jack into the Peroxisome Exposure list, but ignore the slows for now as the game seems to be confusing slows with recharge rates.



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Great Guide!!! BuT for Dark Armor Cloak Of Fear

I find that 3 lyso's and 3 end redux work best for the power. your biggest problem comes with endurance on this scrapper, it more beneficial to have level 53 SO's for end redux than it is for accuracy where as your accuracy will sit at 3 level 50 acc's (lysosome) which is fine for PvE and PvP.

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This is not really a "This is what Works Best" type of guide. It's a "Here's what CAN be used, you decide what you Want" type of guide. I feel those decisions are best left to the player.

It's a guide to how they CAN be used, not How you should use them.

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[ QUOTE ]
Oh man I can't believe I missed this:

Peroxisome Exposure - Damage and Mez:
-Controller - Ice control: Jack Frost

Acc/Mez (Endoplasm, which is there already) is good, but so is Dam/Mez. If they do affect the slows as well as holds, both of them will be affecting 3 aspects of Jack.

Jack can take Damage, Acc, Hold Duration, End Reduction, Range, Recharge Reduction, and Slow.

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I'll add it in.


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The following are valid if the /Mez portion of Hamidons affect slows.

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It doesn't, so they aren't.

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-APP - Blaster – Ice Manipulation – Chillblain

This isn't an APP power.

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Anyone have more info on this? What is the Icee APP named? Is there a power like that in it?

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Can you set this up with Villian info on HOs? Since you have all of this information should transfer over except for different powers not on Hero side.

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I doubt I'll have the time, until (if) I ever get any of my own on the villain side. Since I currently have no use for the list there, I don't think I'll have the time or interest in doing a villain version. Someone else is free to do so if they like, of course.

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*Updating as I find out more*

Uplink_OoT did a great job a while back, compiling a list of Hamidon Enhancements. What I'd like to do is put together a list of which powers the more 'Exotic' HO's can help. I want to be able to tell people "'X' HO affects these powers ...". Help fill in the list with whatever you can.

Easy ones:
Nucleolus Exposure - Damage and Accuracy:
-Too many to list. If you don’t know what can use this, you shouldn’t have bought the account. ;-)

Centriole Exposure - Damage and Range:
-See above. (Note - the range portion of some melee attacks cannot be increased, even though they may affect a larger than normal range. Be sure the power normally accepts Range + Damage enhancements before slotting this)

Ribosome Exposure - Increase Damage Resistance and Endurance Reduction:
-All – Power Pools – Tough
-APP - Blaster - Electrical Mastery – Charged Armor
-APP - Blaster - Force Mastery - Temporary Invulnerability, Force of Nature
-APP - Blaster - Fire Mastery – Fire Shield
-APP - Controller - Fire Mastery – Fire Shield
-APP – Defender – Dark Mastery – Dark Embrace
-APP - Defender/Controller – Psychic Mastery (Defender) - Mind Over Body
-Defender/Controller - Kinetics - Increase Density
-Defender/Controller - Sonic Resonance - Sonic Barrier, Sonic Haven, Sonic Dispersion
-Defender/Controller - Storm - Steamy Mist
-Defender – Dark - Shadowfall
-Peacebringer - Luminous Aura - Shining Shield, Thermal Shield, Quantum Shield, White Dwarf (does not cost much End, might be a waste), Light Form
-Scrapper – Dark Armor – Murky Cloud, Obsidian Shield, Dark Embrace
-Tank/Scrapper – Invulnerability – Temporary Invulnerability, Unyielding, Unstoppable
-Tank – Stone Armor – Brimstone Armor, Granite Armor
-Warshade Secondary – Gravity Shield, Twilight Shield, Penumbral Shield, Umbral Aura, Black Dwarf (does not cost much End, might be a waste)


Microfilament Exposure – Travel Speed Increase (Run, Fly, and Jump) plus Endurance Reduction:
-All - Power Pools - Hover (Takes minimal end), Flight, Group Flight
-All - Power Pools - Speed, Super Speed
-All - Power Pools - Leaping, Combat Jump (Takes minimal End), Super Leap
-Defender/Controller - Kinetic - Speed Boost
-Defender/Controller - Kinetic Inertial Reduction
-Defender/Controller - Kinetic - Siphon Speed (bonus -speed/recharge debuff on opponent)
-Peacebringer – White Dwarf (Probably not the best place to put these, Dwarf has something akin to Combat Jumping) , Quantum Flight (There are reports that Q-Fly is already at the Fly Speed cap, in which case this enhancement would be useless) , Nova, Group Energy Flight
-Peacebringer Inherent powers - Energy Flight, Combat Flight
-Scrapper – Super Reflexes – Elude – Not optimal slotting, but can use this.
-Warshade Primary - Umbral Blast - Dark Nova (Probably not worth slotting Fly)
-Warshade Secondary – Black Dwarf (Probably not worth slotting for this)

-There is a Debate as to whether you should slot these into Fitness -> Swift or Scrapper-> Super Reflexes-> Quickness. If you use Fly, you might benefit from Slotting these here, as they can serve as both Run Speed AND Fly Speed enhancers.

Golgi Exposure - Heal and Endurance Reduction:
-Anyone with a Medicine power pool Heal,
-Anyone with a 'heal self' power (Tanks/scrappers, PB, WS)
-Defenders/Controllers with a Heal power (Radiant aura, Twilight grasp, etc.)
-Peacebringer - Glowing Touch, Essence Boost, Reform Essence
-Peacebringer - Luminous Aura - White Dwarf - White Dwarf Sublimation
-Scrapper Dark Melee/Dark Armor - Dark Regeneration, Siphon Life
-Scrapper – Regen – Reconstruction, Dull Pain, Integration, Instant Healing
-Tank – Ice Armor – Hoarfrost
-Tank/Scrapper – Invulnerability – Dull Pain
-Tank – Stone Armor – Rooted, Earth’s Embrace
-Warshade – Essence Drain, Stygian Circle
-Warshade Secondary – Black Dwarf – Black Dwarf Drain


Peroxisome Exposure - Damage and Mez: (ie: Hold, sleep, stun, etc .. but NOT knockback) . (In some cases, the damage is minor)
-APP - Blaster - Fire Mastery – Char (Damage barely noticeable, not preferred slotting)
-APP - Blaster – Ice Manipulation – Chillblain
-APP - Blaster – Electrical Mastery – Shocking Bolt
-APP – Scrapper – Darkness Mastery – Tenebrous Tentacles
-Blasters/Tankers – Energy Melee - Total Focus, Bone Smasher, Energy Punch
-Blaster – Archery – Stunning Shot
Blaster - Electricity Manipulation - Shocking Grasp (good damage & hold)
Charged Brawl * (20% chance to Sleep (mag 3)) , Havoc Punch * (50% chance to Sleep (mag 3)) , Thunder Strike * (50% chance to Stun (mag 3)) (*May not be worth it)
-Blaster – Ice - freeze ray, bitter freeze ray (*damage is insignificant on freeze ray. Mez hami-os will not increase chance to stun, and will not increase mags of attacks in energy punch.)
-Controller – Earth control: Stone Prison, Fossilize, Stone Cages, Stalagmites, Volcanic Gasses
-Controller – Ice control: Chilblain, Block of Ice, Frostbite, Flash Freeze, Jack Frost
-Controller – Fire Control: Ring of Fire, Char, Fire Cages, Flashfire
-Controller – Gravity Control: Crush, Gravity Distortion, Crushing Field, Singularity
-Controller – Illusion Control – Blind
-Controller – Mind control: Mezmirize, Dominate, Terrify
-Defender – Dark Blast – Tenebrous Tentacles
-Defender - Radiation Blast – Cosmic Burst
-Defender – Psychic Blast - Subdue (Immobilize), Will Domination (sleep), Scramble Thoughts (disorient), Psychic Wail (disorient)
-Defender/Controller – Storm Summoning - Tornado
-Scrapper – Martial Arts - Thunder Kick (Disorient), Cobra Strike (Disorient, but not really worth using because CS damage is so low), Crippling Axe Kick (Immobilize), Eagle's Claw (Disorient)
-Tank – Energy Melee – Energy Transfer, Barrage
-Tank – Super Strength – Jab, Knockout Blow
-Peacebringer - Luminous Blast – Incandescent Strike
-Warshade – Gravimetric Snare, Gravity Well, Gravity Emanation (Damage is low for this one, so not considered ‘optimal’)


Endoplasm Exposure - Accuracy and Mez: (ie: Hold, sleep, stun, etc, but NOT knockback)
-APP - Blaster - Fire Mastery – Char
-APP - Blaster – Ice Manipulation – Chillblain (*Not a Blaster APP? Details needed)
-APP - Blaster – Electrical Mastery – Shocking Bolt
-APP – Defender – Dark Mastery – Oppressive Gloom
-Blaster – Archery – Stunning Shot
-Blaster/Defender – Electrical Blast – Tesla Cage
Blaster - Electricity Manipulation - Shocking Grasp (good damage & hold)
Charged Brawl * (20% chance to Sleep (mag 3)) , Havoc Punch * (50% chance to Sleep (mag 3)) , Thunder Strike * (50% chance to Stun (mag 3)) , Lightning Clap * (50% chance to Stun (mag 2) PBAoE) (*May not be worth it)
-Blasters/Tankers – Energy Melee - Total Focus, Bone Smasher, Energy Punch
-Controller – Earth control: Stone Prison, Fossilize, Stone Cages, Stalagmites, Salt Crystals, Volcanic Gasses
-Controller – Fire Control: Ring of Fire, Char, Fire Cages, Flashfire, Cinders
-Controller – Gravity Control: Crush, Gravity Distortion, Crushing Field, Gravity Distortion Field, Wormhole, Singularity
-Controller – Ice control: Chilblain, Block of Ice, Frostbite, Flash Freeze, Shiver, Glacier, Jack Frost
-Controller – Illusion Control – Blind, Flash, Deceive, Spectral Terror
-Controller – Mind control: Mesmerize, Dominate, Terrify, Confuse, Mass Hypnosis, Total Domination, Mass Confusion
-Defender/Controller - Radiation Emission - EM Pulse
-Defender/Controller – Storm Summoning - Thunderclap
-Defender/Controller - Trick Arrow - Ice Arrow, EM Pulse Arrow
-Defender – Dark – Fearsome Stare, Dark Servant, Petrifying Gaze
-Defender – Psychic Blast - Subdue (Immobilize), Will Domination (sleep), Scramble Thoughts (disorient), Psychic Wail (disorient)
-Defender - Radiation Blast – Cosmic Burst
-Peacebringer - Luminous Blast – Pulsar, Incandescent Strike
-Scrapper Dark Melee/Dark Armor - Cloak of Fear, Oppressive Gloom, Touch of Fear
-Scrapper – Martial Arts - Thunder Kick (Disorient), Cobra Strike (Disorient), Crippling Axe Kick (Immobilize), Eagle's Claw (Disorient)
-Tank – Energy Melee – Energy Transfer, Barrage
-Tank – Super Strength – Knockout Blow
-Warshade – Gravimetric Snare, Gravity Well, Gravity Emanation, Inky Aspect


These next few can be tricky, and are the ones that need the most 'help'. Some might be GREAT for a few powers, but helpful in some that share two of the aspects of the HO. These are the ones MOST in use of some definition.


Lysosome Exposure - Increase ToHit and Defense Debuffs, and Increases Accuracy:
-APP - Body Mastery (Scrapper)/Energy Mastery (Tanker) - Laser Beam Eyes – Accuracy, Def Debuff
-Blaster - Devices - Smoke Grenade – Acc + To Hit Debuff
-Blaster – Assault Rifle – Burst - can use the Acc + Def Debuff Portions
-Controller - Earth Control – Earthquake - can use the ToHit + Def Debuff Portions (Some say this is not ‘optimal slotting’ – that’s for you to decide.)
-Controller - Fire Control – Smoke
-Controller - Mind Control – Terrify
-Defender - Dark - Twilight Grasp, Fearsome Stare and Dark Servant (acc + To hit Debuff)
-Defender - Dark Blast – All powers except Dark Pit – Accuracy + Tohit Debuff
-Defender - Radiation Blast - Neutrino Bolt, X-ray Beam, Irradiate, Electron Haze, Proton Volley, Cosmic Burst, Neutron Bomb, Atomic Blast
-Defender/Controller - Radiation Emission - Radiation Infection (uses 2 of 3)
-Defender/Controller – Sonic - Liquefy
-Defender/Control - Storm - Freezing rain - ACC and foe –DEF
-Defender/Controller - Trick Arrow - Flash Arrow - tohit debuff, accuracy
-Defender/Controller - Trick Arrow - Acid Arrow - defense debuff, accuracy
-Peacebringer - Luminous Blast – Gleaming Bolt, Glinting Eye, Gleaming Blast, Radiant Strike, Proton Scatter, Luminous Detonation, Incandescent Strike, Solar Flare, Photon Seekers, Dawn Strike, Nova/Dwarf Inherent attacks (Def Debuff is not large, but if you are slotting for Accuracy, you can use this in its place for some additional benefit)
-Scrapper - Broadsword – All attacks except Parry - can use the Acc + Def Debuff Portions (Note - even Parry can use it, until they decide to fix the Buff/Debuff Enhancement issue)
-Scrapper – Dark Melee – Nearly all attacks can use +ACC and foe –ACC
-Scrapper Dark Melee/Dark Armor - Cloak of Fear (Though Endoplasm and Enzymes are the preferred options)
-Scrapper - Katana – Sting of the Wasp, Gambler's Cut, Flashing Steel, The Lotus Drops, Soaring Dragon, Golden Dragonfly - can use the Acc + Def Debuff Portions


Enzyme Exposure - Increase ToHit and Defense Debuffs, and Endurance Reduction:
-APP - Body Mastery (Scrapper)/Energy Mastery (Tanker) - Laser Beam Eyes – End Red, Def Debuff
-Controller - Earth Control – Quicksand
-Controller - Fire Control – Smoke
-Controller – Mind Control – Terrify
-Defender - Radiation Blast - Irradiate, Neutron Bomb,
-Defender/Controller - Empathy - Fortitude* (*note - this could change someday if the Devs alter how buff/Debuff HO's are working)
-Defender/Controller - Force Field - Personal Force Field, Deflection Shield, Insulation Shield, Dispersion Bubble (under current bugged system only)
-Defender/Controller – Radiation Emission - Radiation Infection (uses all 3)
-Defender/Controller – Sonic - Liquefy (-DEF, -ACC, END redux)
-Defender/Control - Storm - Freezing rain - (-DEF, END redux)
-Defender/Control - Storm - Hurricane - (-ACC, END redux)
-Defender/Control - Storm - Tornado - (–DEF, END redux)
-Defender/Controller - Trick Arrow - Flash Arrow (tohit debuff, end reduction),
-Defender/Controller - Trick Arrow - Acid Arrow (defense debuff, end reduction),
-Defender/Controller - Trick Arrow - Oil Slick Arrow (defense debuff, end reduction)
-Defender - Dark - Darkest Night (ToHit Debuff + End Reduc), Dark Servant
-Peacebringer - Luminous Blast – Gleaming Bolt, Glinting Eye, Gleaming Blast, Radiant Strike, Proton Scatter, Luminous Detonation, Incandescent Strike, Solar Flare, Photon Seekers, Nova/Dwarf Inherent attacks (Def Debuff is not large, but if you are slotting for End Reduction, you can use this in its place for some additional benefit)
-Peacebringer – Dwarf Form attack powers
-Peacebringer – Nova Form Attack Powers
-Scrapper - Broadsword – All attacks except Parry - can use the End Reduction + Def Debuff Portions (Note - even Parry can use it, until they decide to fix the Buff/Debuff Enhancement issue)
-Scrapper Dark Melee/Dark Armor - Cloak of Fear
-Scrapper - Katana – Sting of the Wasp, Gambler's Cut, Flashing Steel, The Lotus Drops, Soaring Dragon, Golden Dragonfly - can use the End Reduc + Def Debuff Portions



Membrane Exposure - Increase ToHit and Defense Buffs, and Increase Attack Rate:
-Any Aim/Buildup type power
-All - Power Pools - Leadership - Vengeance (uses all 3? Though I know you can't put Recharge reducers in it normally, so it probably just uses the first 2 parts)
-APP - Body Mastery (Scrapper)/Energy Mastery (Tanker) – Focused Accuracy - To hit buff and Recharge Reduc
-APP - Blaster - Force Mastery - Personal Force Field
-APP – Defender – Dark Mastery – Soul Drain
-Controller - Illusion Control - Superior Invisibility, Group Invisibility - Def buff, Recharge Reducer
-Defender/Controller - Empathy - Fortitude
-Defender/Controller - Force Field - Personal Force Field, Deflection Shield, Insulation Shield, Dispersion Bubble (note, some of these have very fast recharge times already, not Optimal)
-Scrapper – Broadsword – Parry (Value is disputed, but leaving this in)
-Scrapper Dark Melee/Dark Armor - Soul Drain
-Scrapper - Dark Armor – Cloak of Darkness (not recommended slotting, but can use 2 aspects)
-Scrapper - Katana – Divine Avalanche - Def Buff and Increase attack rate
-Scrapper – Martial Arts – Focus Chi – ToHit buff and Increase attack rate
-Scrapper – Super Reflexes – Elude – Def Buff and Attack rate increase
-Tank – Ice Armor – Energy Absorption (Defense, Increase attack rate) , Frozen Armor and Glacial Armor (Though very few people ever slot these for recharge, so this would not be the best choice)
-Tank – Super Strength - Rage - uses ToHit buff and Recharge rate.
-Tank/Scrapper – Invulnerability – Invincibility (not optimal slotting, but can use)
-Warshade Secondary - Umbral Aura - Shadow Cloak


Cytoskeleton Exposure - Increase ToHit and Defense Buffs, and Endurance Reduction:
-All - Power Pools - Leadership - Maneuvers (uses 2 of 3)
-All - Power Pools - Leadership - Tactics (uses 2 of 3)
-All - Power Pools - Leadership - Vengeance (uses all 3? Can you put End cost reduction in it?)
-All - Power Pools – Leaping – Combat Jumping (Not Recommended, but possible)
-APP - Body Mastery (Scrapper)/Energy Mastery (Tanker) – Focused Accuracy ToHit buff, End Reduc
-APP - Blaster - Force Mastery - Personal Force Field
-Controllers - Illusion Control – Superior Invisibility, Group Invisibility
-APP – Defender – Dark Mastery – Dark Embrace
-Defender/Controller - Empathy - Fortitude – Uses all 3
-Defender/Controller - Force Field - Personal Force Field, Deflection Shield, Insulation Shield, Dispersion Bubble
-Defender/Controller – Storm Summoning – Steamy Mist (Defense bonus is small, but can be enhanced)
-Defender - Dark - Shadowfall – Def Buff, End Red
-Peacebringer - Luminous Blast - Build up (not as useful as Membrane, but can be used here) , Bright Nova (Nova doesn't cost much, but if you have these and are slotting for ToHit anyway, you might as well reduce it even more) , Combat Flight (Though the End usage is so low this may be a waste of a Hami-O, depends on your specific usage and build, though)
-Scrapper – Broadsword – Parry (Value is disputed, but leaving this in)
-Scrapper - Dark Armor – Cloak of Darkness (not recommended slotting, but can use 2 aspects)
-Scrapper - Katana – Divine Avalanche - Def Buff and End Reduc
-Scrapper – Martial Arts – Focus Chi – ToHit buff and End Reduc (Not optimal slotting, though, as power is not high in End usage)
-Scrapper – Super Reflexes – Focused Fighting, Focused senses – Def Buff, End Red
-Scrapper – Super Reflexes – Evasion – Def Buff, End Red
-Tank/Scrapper - Invulnerability - Invincibility (uses all 3)
-Tank – Earth Armor - Rock Armor, Crystal Armor, Minerals, Granite Armor (all def buff/end red)
-Tank – Ice Armor – Frozen Armor, Glacial Armor (Def Buff, End Reduc)
-Warshade Primary - Umbral Blast - Dark Nova Bright Nova (Nova doesn't cost much, but if you have these and are slotting for ToHit anyway, you might as well reduce it even more.)
-Warshade Secondary - Umbral Aura - Shadow Cloak (does not use much end, slotting this is your decision)


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Removed:
Removed HO’s with + ACC from “-Defender/Control - Storm – Hurricane” and “-Defender/Control - Storm – Tornado” (Powers are Autohit in PvE, so do not need accuracy. Are they Autohit in PvP? Do I need to put them back in as PvP slotting only?)
(Removed from Enzyme) “-Controller - Illusion Control – Spectral Terror” (Spectral Terror does not take ToHit Debuff or Defense Debuff enhancements.)

*As Always, this is a Work in Progress. Questions? Comments? Additions? Reply, and I'll get them in, or we'll talk about them at least.

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-APP - Blaster - Ice Manipulation - Chillblain

This isn't an APP power.

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Anyone have more info on this? What is the Icee APP named? Is there a power like that in it?

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Blaster APP is Cold Mastery (Paragon Wiki/NoFuture). Flash Freeze has sleep and minor damage, so that can use Endoplasm Exposure and Peroxisome Exposure.

Ice Manipulation is a regular blaster set (Paragon Wiki/Nofuture) and has Immobilize and damage, so it can also use Endoplasm Exposure and Peroxisome Exposure.

Might I suggest starting a Updating Hamidon Enhancement Guide v 2.0 thread? This thread is getting long and the length has driven away some people I've pointed the thread out to.

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Working on a quick update now, and I'll start a new thread later.

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Ok .. no more replying to this thread ;-)

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Thanks to everyone who has been helping.

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