Aid self getting nerfed?
By
artphobia,
Posted on: 2006-04-15 19:23 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
First I've heard of it, and I'm usually plugged into the collective...
if it gets nerfed then those damn stalker hunting /SR scrappers will die a bit faster! WOOT
This goes beyond uncool if they nerf aid self. Aid self makes /EA a good set and helps out SR scrappers and will help out /ELEC. It's not fair to sets that don't have a built-in heal.
No good will come from nerfing aid self.
And for you stalkers, this hurts you too if you happen to be SR or /EA and use aid self. Think about that.
This better be a damn rumor and nothing more.
I hope Dawnslayer has some real proof other than causing mass panic...
STOP THE DAMN NERFING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I kind of doubt that they are nerfing aid self, seing as how they buffed it an issue or 2 ago to get more poeple to take it. (That buff was to add a bit of disorient resistance to it).
Dev post.
Without a dev post it's just a rumor... 
I based what I said off of an old post by Castle where he said he felt Aid Self healed too much for it's recharge, and bieng a pool power, and said he'd 'look into it.' And I've been around for a while, and immidiately saw 'nerf.'
However, since then he also talked about the power after making that statement. He spoke of it in relation to healing flames and said Aid Self wasn't being changed.
So. No worries.
Dawnslayer on Virtue.
Castle has stated that he thinks aid self is too good.
Castle has also stated that it is not getting nerfed in I7 - obviously, anything is subject to change.
I don't think it's getting nerfed anytime soon - but I wouldnt be shocked if its recharge gets lengthened eventually.
I know I would be seriously upset over that because it's not an imbalancing power.
It heals a solid chunk, but no more than many good heal already built into sets, AND you have to use up a power selection to get it and 6 slot it to really make it good.
Thinking on that, ya, probably not gonna get nerfed. It would do nothing positive for "game balance" by nerfing it.
People shouldn't start rumors. 
Double post.
perhaps with such an obvious title on this post...maybe a red name can come out and play before this spreads to the tanker forum
I think there are a lot of reasons it doesn't make sense to nerf it. It's a comparable heal "magnitude" to the non-Healing Flames heals, but it has significant drawbacks.
The absolute wost thing I think it would be reasonable for them to do would be to set Aid Self's recharge such that with one recharge it was equal to to that of a power like Reconstruction's recharge with two recharges.
Where do I get that metric? Aid Self is very hard to use in a pinch unless you at least two-slot it for interrupt reduction. That leaves one slot for recharge, and three for heal.
Honestly, I still don't think that makes the powers par. Aid Self still can't be reliably activated in a damage field, when affected by a fast DoT, or under fire by lots of foes. Its animation is long, and while interrupt reducers allow you to move while it's finishing, you can't use any powers. Contrast that to Reconstruction, which can be used on the move, and has minimal drawback aside from weapon redraw.
No, once they fix Healing Flames, I think Aid Self will be relatively safe. I don't think it should be nerfed at all, and if it is, I would campaign strongly that it be minor.
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Castle has stated that he thinks aid self is too good.
Castle has also stated that it is not getting nerfed in I7 - obviously, anything is subject to change.
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I asked _Castle_ about Aid Self (actually, i was pointing out disparities between ATs and using Aid Self as an example) a few months ago. His response was that he felt that it was balanced.
Good enough for me.
Well that makes me feel better.
I was feeling a little sad for my /EA brute and upcoming /ELEC brute.
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I hope that's plutonic.
I didn't nerf Aid Self, do you love me, too?
Hurray...my energy/energy brute needs this to survive
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Castle has stated that he thinks aid self is too good.
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Too good? Huh?
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Castle has stated that he thinks aid self is too good.
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Too good? Huh?
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This is the quote they're talking about I think:
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I just hope that the devs don't read this and decide to nerf aid self instead of boosting healing flames 
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I'd like to do both, actually (and both my Brute and my Stalker use it!) But, alas, Aid Self isn't changing. Healing Flames, on the other hand, might get a boost.
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Castle want to nerf Aid Self but Geko won't let him!
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As opposed to PLUTO: the god of the dead and ruler of the underworld... Plutonic love would thus be....
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The sick.... ugh...
They'll let ANYONE post to these forums, it seems.
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What's that shirt say?
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DawnSlayer on page 5 2nd post down in this post, http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showf...art=5&vc=1 Preaty much said Aid self is getting nerfed is this true and if so how will it get nerfed.
Thank you.