Moon Hazard Zone


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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project View Post
It's official. The Fifth Column will be attacking Paragon City from their secret moon base on 4/4/12.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Py_In...85FOAAAAAAAAAA


Give us our moon zone so we can defend our world!
It lives!

I want to see Iron Sky.

in CoH.

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Originally Posted by Golden Girl View Post
I think that we're more likely to get some kind of space station rather than the moon
yeah. I gave up years ago on getting a moon zone.

as much as I would love one it doesn't seem like the dev's want one.


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yeah. I gave up years ago on getting a moon zone.

as much as I would love on it doesn't seem like the dev's want one.
I wouldn't go that far. Some assets were created. Although, now look horribly outdated.


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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project View Post
It's official. The Fifth Column will be attacking Paragon City from their secret moon base on 4/4/12.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Py_In...85FOAAAAAAAAAA


Give us our moon zone so we can defend our world!

Been waiting for Iron Sky FOREVER. It's gonna rock!


 

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There might be an incarnate Trial for a Moon Base zone also a new regular trial like a Gaunlet style trial


 

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I know it's stupid to hope but they're taking polls for retro space suits, maybe that means they are finally working on the Moon Zone.


 

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Originally Posted by Kirsten View Post
That's stupid...They asked what we wanted, and this was a phenomenally popular idea. Still is. If they don't want to listen to us, we don't need to purchase new content. Or even play, depending how egregious it gets.
Yes, because clearly the devs haven't given us a single thing we've wanted over the past 6 years.


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I can get behind this, though I can see a lot of Archetypes and Powersets being banned due to the knock back issues.

It would also open up the potential for another non-praetoria based incarnate area and other content. Even then, Battle Maiden hit Steel Canyon from the upper atmosphere, who's to say that there wasn't another detachment of troops sent to the moon?

That, and the idea of Space Nazis is simply glorious


 

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Originally Posted by ArticulateT View Post
though I can see a lot of Archetypes and Powersets being banned due to the knock back issues.
If you're not prepared to be chasing foes at 1/6th g don't go there.


Hopefully they won't try cave maps though, the wall geometry bug would suck.


 

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Yes, because clearly the devs haven't given us a single thing we've wanted over the past 6 years.

You're missing the point Dark.

First - If they never intended to make a Moon Zone then it should never have been an option on the survey.

Second - If there is a reason why the zone that was voted the players choice for what we wanted could not be added to the game, then tell us what it is. I know I've never heard anything official, or any players claiming they heard anything.


 

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You're missing the point Dark.

First - If they never intended to make a Moon Zone then it should never have been an option on the survey.

Second - If there is a reason why the zone that was voted the players choice for what we wanted could not be added to the game, then tell us what it is. I know I've never heard anything official, or any players claiming they heard anything.
Is there an actual quote where a dev/community rep literally said "we will make the zone that wins" or was it just asking what we want?


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Is there an actual quote where a dev/community rep literally said "we will make the zone that wins" or was it just asking what we want?
The original posts have long been lost to forum purges and the switchover to the new forums. But the surveys also asked what we wanted for power sets and that's where we got Shields from.

If BaBs could take 2 minutes out of his busy schedule to tell us that an Underwater Zone would take far too much time and resources to create and ultimately look crappy, then someone at PS could give us a response on the Moon zone.

Even something along the lines of what we were told about Power Customization would have been appreciated.


 

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It took a long time before dual pistols became an option.
Same for shields.
Same for Demon Summoning.
Same for Power/Color Customization.
Same for Titan Weapons.
Next up is Staff Fighting.

So I would hope at some point a Moon Zone would become MMO reality.

Sadly, though, I suspect we'll see another often-requested item before then...

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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project View Post
The original posts have long been lost to forum purges and the switchover to the new forums. But the surveys also asked what we wanted for power sets and that's where we got Shields from.

If BaBs could take 2 minutes out of his busy schedule to tell us that an Underwater Zone would take far too much time and resources to create and ultimately look crappy, then someone at PS could give us a response on the Moon zone.

Even something along the lines of what we were told about Power Customization would have been appreciated.
But it's not something they ever promised. You're applying a lot of assumptions to the devs of the time (several of whom aren't even with the company anymore) which is an extremely unfair thing to do. Also...

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It took a long time before dual pistols became an option.
Same for shields.
Same for Demon Summoning.
Same for Power/Color Customization.
Same for Titan Weapons.
Next up is Staff Fighting.
This. There's a finite amount of resources to work with, and the devs need to prioritize what they want to put into the game. They know full well that we want a Moon Zone (honestly, did they even need a poll for this???), but they're not just going to toss it into the game, it needs to have a reason to exist beyond being a new shiny.

In short, no, the devs do not owe us any kind of explanation for the lack of a Moon Zone. This is the silliest entitlement I've seen on the forum in quite some time.


"You don't lose levels. You don't have equipment to wear out, repair, or lose, or that anyone can steal from you. About the only thing lighter than debt they could do is have an NPC walk by, point and laugh before you can go to the hospital or base." -Memphis_Bill
We will honor the past, and fight to the last, it will be a good way to die...

 

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Originally Posted by Golden Girl View Post
I think that we're more likely to get some kind of space station rather than the moon
AH! Yes. Now it all comes together.

FIRST we get the Station. Gotta take the baby steps, yeah?

THEN the Moon Base.

Awesome. Makes sense, GG!


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But it's not something they ever promised. You're applying a lot of assumptions to the devs of the time (several of whom aren't even with the company anymore) which is an extremely unfair thing to do. Also...
No I'm not. Nor is it unfair. Our devs respond to us all the time on suggestions and ideas that they never promised to implement. They do it here on the forums, during Ustreams, during in-game Q&A's, at conventions, etc.

If they can respond to all those topics they can respond to this one as well.

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This is the silliest entitlement I've seen on the forum in quite some time.
No it's not. We've been patiently waiting to hear something about this for 7 years and this is the first you've ever heard any grumbling about it. If you think that equates to entitlement, then you need to get your head examined.


 

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No it's not. We've been patiently waiting to hear something about this for 7 years and this is the first you've ever heard any grumbling about it. If you think that equates to entitlement, then you need to get your head examined.
The results of a survey from 7 years ago? No, that sounds precisely like entitlement to me.

For all you know, the dev that was spearheading the thing left the company. Or it was Posi's pet project (Statesman's? whoever was in charge at the time) and got back-burnered when War Witch took over, or whoever the hell is even running the show now.

I don't disagree that it would have been neat to get a dev comment over the years (P.S. can you explicitly prove that they never have?), but they have no obligation to do so, and it's also really not that big a deal in the grand scheme of the game compared to their philosophy of letting some bad nearly-game-breaking bugs get pushed to live.

As for why they're not saying anything now, perhaps they have a reason for keeping mum, and perhaps you will feel somewhat silly when that reason becomes evident. Perhaps.


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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project View Post
No I'm not. Nor is it unfair. Our devs respond to us all the time on suggestions and ideas that they never promised to implement. They do it here on the forums, during Ustreams, during in-game Q&A's, at conventions, etc.

If they can respond to all those topics they can respond to this one as well.



No it's not. We've been patiently waiting to hear something about this for 7 years and this is the first you've ever heard any grumbling about it. If you think that equates to entitlement, then you need to get your head examined.
So uhm has anyone asked during one of these ustream Q&As? Did anyone ask about a moon zone at the pummit?

I have no interest in a moon zone, but if you want to ask a dev a question and get a response there are specific tools aside from the forums that afford people that opportunity.


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The results of a survey from 7 years ago? No, that sounds precisely like entitlement to me.
Then see my previous post for a possible solution to that problem of yours.

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For all you know, the dev that was spearheading the thing left the company. Or it was Posi's pet project (Statesman's? whoever was in charge at the time) and got back-burnered when War Witch took over, or whoever the hell is even running the show now.
Not relevant. A simple statement about priorities being changed would have covered it.

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I don't disagree that it would have been neat to get a dev comment over the years.
I'm glad you agree with me, because that's all I was saying before you had to try to blow this all out of proportion with your drama.

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(P.S. can you explicitly prove that they never have?)
Already answered.

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I know I've never heard anything official, or any players claiming they heard anything.
and if you actually bothered to read posts before responding you'd notice that I said that in response to one of your posts.

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but they have no obligation to do so, and it's also really not that big a deal in the grand scheme of the game compared to their philosophy of letting some bad nearly-game-breaking bugs get pushed to live.
Yes because we all know that all bugs are glaringly obvious and even more easily fixed. All the devs have to do is



spray the code with a can of Raid before it goes live and it will kill bugs dead.

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As for why they're not saying anything now, perhaps they have a reason for keeping mum,
As I recall someone already mentioned that. Who was it . . .

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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project View Post
I know it's stupid to hope but they're taking polls for retro space suits, maybe that means they are finally working on the Moon Zone.
Oh yeah, it was I.

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and perhaps you will feel somewhat silly when that reason becomes evident. Perhaps.
Don't hold your breath waiting.


 

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Originally Posted by I Burnt The Toast View Post
So uhm has anyone asked during one of these ustream Q&As? Did anyone ask about a moon zone at the pummit?

I have no interest in a moon zone, but if you want to ask a dev a question and get a response there are specific tools aside from the forums that afford people that opportunity.
I don't know. I can never get Ustreams to work right. I get frequent disconnections and can't participate. My internet service says it's not their fault, and they've had a tech check the wiring and that's supposedly ok. I've had my systems been checked and nothings wrong there either.


 

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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
I know I've never heard anything official, or any players claiming they heard anything.
Anecdotal evidence is not evidence, thank you and good night.

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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project View Post
Don't hold your breath waiting.
I dunno, I feel like I could probably hold my breath for the next month or so.


"You don't lose levels. You don't have equipment to wear out, repair, or lose, or that anyone can steal from you. About the only thing lighter than debt they could do is have an NPC walk by, point and laugh before you can go to the hospital or base." -Memphis_Bill
We will honor the past, and fight to the last, it will be a good way to die...