20,000 Prestige per Member for existing SGs?

Kendal_NA · 10-28-2005 12:22 AM

OK, when you form a SG, you're supposed to get 20,000 prestige for having one member. Then, for each member that joins your SG, you get 20,000 prestige...

Have they said if this bonus is coming to preexisting SGs? Or, rather, when it is? or do we all have to reform our SGs?

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BungeeBall · 10-28-2005 12:25 AM

Its coming, was bugged that it didn't already give it to you.

Will be in the the patch after the next one they put up.

Positron · 10-28-2005 07:19 AM

Right.

You do NOT need to reform your SG. We have the bug fixed here internally, and in the patch after the next one your SG will get it's 20,000p per member, up to 15. You need to do nothing in order for this to happen, it will be automagic.

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TGIA_ · 10-28-2005 07:31 AM

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Right.

You do NOT need to reform your SG. We have the bug fixed here internally, and in the patch after the next one your SG will get it's 20,000p per member, up to 15. You need to do nothing in order for this to happen, it will be automagic.

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hehe automagic ah that made me happy I like that word thanks for the laugh Posi. =)

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Alaric_7 · 10-28-2005 07:40 AM

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Right.

You do NOT need to reform your SG. We have the bug fixed here internally, and in the patch after the next one your SG will get it's 20,000p per member, up to 15. You need to do nothing in order for this to happen, it will be automagic.

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Heh... I remember, many years ago, there was some commercial that used the phrase, "automagically". I can't remember what it was for, but by coincidence, the word had just popped into my head yesterday, after years of not thinking about it...

Casket · 10-28-2005 09:20 AM

So let me get this right, SG's that have been around forever get no added benefit and larger sg's get no benefit?

Kitteh · 10-28-2005 09:26 AM

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So let me get this right, SG's that have been around forever get no added benefit and larger sg's get no benefit?

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There could be an added benefit, but your entire SG would have to be 'balanced' as a result.

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Egos_Shadow · 10-28-2005 09:26 AM

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So let me get this right, SG's that have been around forever get no added benefit and larger sg's get no benefit?

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That is the long and short of it.

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26plus6equals1 · 10-28-2005 09:37 AM

The benefit is you get out there and start accruing Prestige at a higher rate than newer guilds because you already have a strong membership.

Firebomb · 10-28-2005 09:41 AM

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The benefit is you get out there and start accruing Prestige at a higher rate than newer guilds because you already have a strong membership.

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Yeah. And this is a good thing. The 'main' super group me and my friends run around in on infinity has about forty characters, but it's really just four of us and a crapton of our alts - so it's a nice head start on base making, since at most only four of us are stomping Evil at a given time.

Seems perfectly fair to me. We get a short term boost while groups filled with large numbers of individual players will quickly overcome the prestige we've got by a long shot.

Slingblade · 10-28-2005 10:02 AM

which brings up a good point?

do you get the 20k per character/toon that is a member (up to 15)? or does it track by account (i.e. unique players)?

_Pax_ · 10-28-2005 10:38 AM

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which brings up a good point?

do you get the 20k per character/toon that is a member (up to 15)? or does it track by account (i.e. unique players)?

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I was almost excited by all of the inactives in my SG, until you said first 15 :-/

Rajani Isa · 10-28-2005 10:48 AM

On the plus side, there is know an auto-demote for inactive leaders, and any character whose name goes unreserved gets auto-booted from your sg.

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Zekiran_Immortal · 10-28-2005 10:54 AM

Saving me the trouble. My sg really does need to be reformed, though. Or perhaps, just... more alts. It's good to know that we get the bonus though.

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Obsidian_Phoenix · 10-28-2005 01:43 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Right.

You do NOT need to reform your SG. We have the bug fixed here internally, and in the patch after the next one your SG will get it's 20,000p per member, up to 15. You need to do nothing in order for this to happen, it will be automagic.

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So only 300k Prestige? With how much the base items cost, that's pretty low.... Heck, with a regular plot and adding rooms I went through 12 million adding rooms, items, and such....

At this rate, no bases will be built for a bit yet....

*sigh*

Vixen_Valor · 10-28-2005 01:53 PM

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which brings up a good point?

do you get the 20k per character/toon that is a member (up to 15)? or does it track by account (i.e. unique players)?

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It tracks by character, not player. I confirmed this last night on my sub-SG (Which, ironically, had its Prestige).

Another thing to note, if you have 12 members, and therefore 240,000 Prestige, and a member quits...you immediately drop to 220,000 Prestige. (Also confirmed, unintentionally. )

Egos_Shadow · 10-28-2005 02:01 PM

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Another thing to note, if you have 12 members, and therefore 240,000 Prestige, and a member quits...you immediately drop to 220,000 Prestige.

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They had to do this, otherwise the exploit for it is REALLY obvious.

Other notes from beta - if you're at 0 Prestige (because of spending it all) and someone leaves, you can actually go into the negatives.

You can always recruit more people (or fill the SG with alts) if it's that big a problem.

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Myrmydon · 10-28-2005 02:33 PM

Why is the cap only 20k per member anyway? This basically says that all the time we have played our heroes doesn't even count for anything in having a base. At the rate that we gain prestige, it will take forever to get a decent base. And I don't care if it's not fair to the villians. That falls into the "too damn bad" catagroy. CoH was here first. Let us make our bases and give us more prestige. I believe after all of the crap we have been through since release, we have earned it.

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Vixen_Valor · 10-28-2005 03:09 PM

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They had to do this, otherwise the exploit for it is REALLY obvious.

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Oh definitely. It makes perfect sense, I just wasn't thinking about it when I deleted the alt and therefore put it out as a warning.

I do disagree with going into the negatives if you spend the Prestige and then someone leaves. Perhaps if they leave in less than X amount of time, I could see it. (To prevent THAT exploit)...but leaving in general causing loss of Prestige is silly. If they earned the Prestige while in the SG, and the Prestige was spent while they were in the SG, then I don't see a problem... (As long as they were a member for say, a minimum of 30 days.)

Positron · 10-28-2005 03:15 PM

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They had to do this, otherwise the exploit for it is REALLY obvious.

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Oh definitely. It makes perfect sense, I just wasn't thinking about it when I deleted the alt and therefore put it out as a warning.

I do disagree with going into the negatives if you spend the Prestige and then someone leaves. Perhaps if they leave in less than X amount of time, I could see it. (To prevent THAT exploit)...but leaving in general causing loss of Prestige is silly. If they earned the Prestige while in the SG, and the Prestige was spent while they were in the SG, then I don't see a problem... (As long as they were a member for say, a minimum of 30 days.)

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Any Prestige they EARN while fighting in SG Mode stays. The -only- thing lost is 20,000 when your group loses a member that drops them below 15, or are already below 15.

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Darkjedi · 10-29-2005 12:32 AM

Logged on. Madde a base. We have 75 members. We received no bonus

Midnight_NA · 10-29-2005 02:46 AM

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Right.

You do NOT need to reform your SG. We have the bug fixed here internally, and in the patch after the next one your SG will get it's 20,000p per member, up to 15. You need to do nothing in order for this to happen, it will be automagic.

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um jedi.. this was covered by posi above already... at least try readin all the dev posts in a thread=P

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VoodooCompany · 10-29-2005 07:09 AM

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Logged on. Madde a base. We have 75 members. We received no bonus

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As soon as I get my damn rendering, you'll get your prestige!

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Dalantia · 10-29-2005 07:12 AM

Are you sure, Posi? I have a GM response sitting in my email inbox that says that pre-existing SGs are NOT getting the bonus influence.

Are they wrong? I'm confused.

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Wonderslug · 10-29-2005 07:29 AM

Either your GM was attempting to say "SGs are supposed to get the bonus but currently, due to a bug, they are not," or your GM doesn't know what he's talking about. See here.