The "yes we're working on it...."
By
8_Ball,
Posted on: 2004-11-08 18:59 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Nothing following any "tweak to regen" is a good thing. There is nothing wrong with regen - please leave it alone. We are still victims of the alpha strike like anyone else. Healing rate is what regen is all about. If you nerf that - we are have zilch. If people are complaining that we are too powerful, then maybe they need to look to getting their own AT boosted rather than beating down ours. Please leave regen alone Statesman.
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I'm sure after you get a little extra resistance (which is what the subject of that sentence is about) you'll thank him, right? 
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You bet I will!
But I bet you a quarter that's not what he was getting at!
I like jelly beans.
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You bet I will!
But I bet you a quarter that's not what he was getting at!
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You're ON!
(rummages around for a half hour looking for a quarter....)
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You bet I will!
But I bet you a quarter that's not what he was getting at!
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You're ON!
(rummages around for a half hour looking for a quarter....)
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Ok - how about I 5 star you if you're right! (we're hard core gamblers for sure)
Looks good, I really hope we can get Stone Armor graphics redone for Update 3. We've watched a lot of new artwork get bumped ahead of these changes we've been asking for since beta. How a player looks should take priority over how an NPC looks!
The question shouldn't be whether scrappers can reach the same level of resistance as a tank, the question should be "Is the difference in resistance enough to offset the difference in damage?" Damage is really king in this game and if they can come close to tanker resistance and have a whole lot more damage then there is no reason for tankers, no matter what gimmicks you come up with. And this doesn't even take into account the massive difference in defensive versus offensive buffs.
You have two melee classes, there needs to be a very clear differentiation between the two. Besides A is better than B when powered up.
Scorus
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Allliance Chat - Update 3.
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WOOT!!!! Yes, this is what our Sg and others have been waiting for, HECK YES!!! Thank you States, d@mn fine job your doing!!! 
All I can say is "They mess with Regeneration and I am GONE."
I earned my Adamant badge (1,000,000 damage taken) very early in my career to GET Instant healing and all the rest. I died uncountable deaths to earn what I have. Sorry, but the one class that has VERY little in the way of ANY defense deserves the perks later on. Same with the fire controller and the IMPS...I am HAPPY to see a fire controller hit 32 and run scampering off into the sunset, free of being chained to teams. Its the same with Regeneration. We were shackled most of our early lives. Now we EARNED our freedom and they want to take it away. I'll leave that's all there is to it.
Hi Statesman.
I only have a few concerns, hopefully you are still reading our posts
1) When is the earliest you guys could fix the double buff enemies have against dark melee's attacks?
2) Will it possible to bring characters from the test to live servers?
3) Will there be power sets added to all AT's in update 3?
Thank in advance for your response.
Lvl 50's: Twilight Projections-Dark/Psychic Defender- Justice,
Mad-Scientist -Bot/Poison MM- Freedom,
Ogun Ajala -Fire/Shield Scrapper - Virtue,
Make You Smile -Thugs/Dark - Virtue
Kyuji Warrior - Fire/Trick Arrow Corruptor - Virtue
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2. After analysis, Scrappers CAN NOT reach the same levels of resistance as a Tank. Regeneration, though, is a small concern
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Damnit to hell.
Why, why, why do you have to look into Regeneration?
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Because at level 40 I can stand toe to toe with a pair of level 43 Fake Nemesis bosses and never have to worry about dying no matter how long I stand there, perhaps?
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Go try that against a pair of level 39 Sappers Its easy for any AT to look great when you fight against mobs that cant go through your defences but is that a bug ? All ATs have their "prefered" enemies i think . Ill admit all my scrappers do good against Nemesis , they arent doing as good against carnies and maltas 3 levels higher however . Saying that an AT need the nerf bat because some players choose to pick their fights wisely is very lame .
I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
Voltaire
Question 1) When, if ever, will the villians in this game be forced to play by the same set of rules that the heros are subjected to? (i.e. cool down timers, endurance usage, number of powers, etc.)
Question 2) When will you stop making vauge comments like "tweak" or "some concern" that incite riots among the people that read and use these boards? Please, please, be clear and concise or say nothing at all.
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Please, please, be clear and concise or say nothing at all.
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If only more of the posters on this thread followed the rules you wish to impose on Statesman.
Maybe WE are the villians here. Playing by any set of rules we choose while the hero must play fair.
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There's no rhyme or reason why some powers lock you in place while animating and some don't. Powers often doing the exact same thing like heals, buffs, and armors some lock you up and some don't any plans to make that more uniform?
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I think you'll find that animation times and movement limitations are factored into the opportunity costs for those powers, along with endurance cost, secondary effects, effect duration, and recharge length. Not all heals, buffs, and armors are equal to each other. Some powers may be working improperly and should be bugged and discussed in the forums. Some powers have been rebalanced after further testing by the dev's at the players' request. Be specific. Making a blanket statement doesn't shed light on your concerns.
Funny, how people say they need AoEs the way they are to avoid Sappers and mezz effects, when in the same post as he mentioned AoE changes, States' said minion mezzers are being dramatically reduced and Sappers are going down to 1 per group instead of 2.
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Please, please, be clear and concise or say nothing at all.
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If only more of the posters on this thread followed the rules you wish to impose on Statesman.
Maybe WE are the villians here. Playing by any set of rules we choose while the hero must play fair.
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Aaiieeee!!!! The Light!!! The Light of Truth!!!!
It burnsss!!!!!
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Funny, how people say they need AoEs the way they are to avoid Sappers and mezz effects, when in the same post as he mentioned AoEs, States said minion mezzers are being dramatically reduced and Sappers are going down to 1 per group instead of 2.
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Aaiieeee!!!! The Light!!! The Light of Truth!!!!
It burnsss!!!!!
(Wait. I just used that bit. Shucks.)
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Funny, how people say they need AoEs the way they are to avoid Sappers and mezz effects, when in the same post as he mentioned AoE changes, States' said minion mezzers are being dramatically reduced and Sappers are going down to 1 per group instead of 2.
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Both of which are mistakes, IMO.
Current Blog Post: "Why I am an Atheist..."
"And I say now these kittens, they do not get trained/As we did in the days when Victoria reigned!" -- T. S. Eliot, "Gus, the Theatre Cat"
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Please, please, be clear and concise or say nothing at all.
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If only more of the posters on this thread followed the rules you wish to impose on Statesman.
Maybe WE are the villians here. Playing by any set of rules we choose while the hero must play fair.
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Statesman is the learned and talented lead designer of City of Heroes and has an obligation to play it straight with his customers. We on the other hand are a bunch of yahoos who paid $15 to play a game. There is no moral or practical equivalence here. We have no obligation other than to show everyone the same courtesy that we would expect in turn.
The City of Heroes Community is a special one and I will always look fondly on my times arguing, discussing and playing with you all. Thanks and thanks to the developers for a special experience.
Are you working on raid content? Is any raid content coming in Issue 3? Issue 4? Are SGs going to be anything more than just an easier chat system until bases come online?
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2. After analysis, Scrappers CAN NOT reach the same levels of resistance as a Tank. Regeneration, though, is a small concern.
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Scrapper Secondary Power Invulnerability.
Unstoppable: base Resist 52.5%
2 SO Damage Resists = 73.5% Resistance to all but Psionic
Resist Physical Damage: base Resist ~9.3%
4 SO Damage Resists = 16.74%
Resist Energies/Elements: base Resist 15%
1 SO Damage Resist = 18%
Unstoppable 2 Slots+RPD 4 Slots+REn/Rel one slot = 90.24% Resistance to Smash/Lethal attacks, and 91.5% Resistance to Elemental/Energy attacks, effectively capped at 90%.
Tankers are also capped at 90% damage resistance. Is there something I am missing?
Edit: Actually someone reported that the base for Scrappers RPD was higher than I originally thought, so I updated my numbers, which actaully made RPD go from 6 to 4 slots to reach the cap.
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This is worth repeating.
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Please, please, be clear and concise or say nothing at all.
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If only more of the posters on this thread followed the rules you wish to impose on Statesman.
Maybe WE are the villians here. Playing by any set of rules we choose while the hero must play fair.
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Statesman is the learned and talented lead designer of City of Heroes and has an obligation to play it straight with his customers. We on the other hand are a bunch of yahoos who paid $15 to play a game. There is no moral or practical equivalence here. We have no obligation other than to show everyone the same courtesy that we would expect in turn.
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"Rationalizations are a key to survival. They're more important than sex."
"I doubt that."
"Really, whens the last time you got through a day without a rationalization?"
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Please, please, be clear and concise or say nothing at all.
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If only more of the posters on this thread followed the rules you wish to impose on Statesman.
Maybe WE are the villians here. Playing by any set of rules we choose while the hero must play fair.
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Statesman is the learned and talented lead designer of City of Heroes and has an obligation to play it straight with his customers. We on the other hand are a bunch of yahoos who paid $15 to play a game. There is no moral or practical equivalence here. We have no obligation other than to show everyone the same courtesy that we would expect in turn.
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"Rationalizations are a key to survival. They're more important than sex."
"I doubt that."
"Really, whens the last time you got through a day without a rationalization?"
[/ QUOTE ] Oh snap... what a [censored] apple polisher. the man made a reasonable request... why even talk about tweaks when we all know for a fact that they mean "make less effective" and we all know for a fact they're going to go ahead with said tweaks no matter HOW much we rant about it. given the amount of time and effort people put into their build the developers should EXPECT complaints and pleas for understanding. In short Statesman dosen't need you or your fan boy ilk to defend him. Get off the ballzac....
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Please, please, be clear and concise or say nothing at all.
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If only more of the posters on this thread followed the rules you wish to impose on Statesman.
Maybe WE are the villians here. Playing by any set of rules we choose while the hero must play fair.
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Aaiieeee!!!! The Light!!! The Light of Truth!!!!
It burnsss!!!!!
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AoE's have NOTHING to do with surviving mezzes and everything to do with surviving everything...
All other AT's have damage mitigation abilities except blasters.... and if you say it's range you're full of garbage.
Our damage mitigation is extreme damage. If you're going to nerf that changes need to be made to give people a fighting chance.
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I think I am just gonna insted do reading on what build sounds the best and and survive on its own since that class always gets whacked by a nerf, but insted I will read on whats the absolutly crappiest build in the game and play as that. Since you know the only changes to your class are positive ones
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And that's why I chose Super Reflexes! I knew if I could hack it this way, I could do anything!
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Oh snap...
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Heh. Your $15 bucks buys you storage of your character, customer support and a few updates. It doesn't buy you the time that DEV's spend reading and posting on these boards. They do that for free, and largely on their own time.
A few of us understand and appreciate that. And we'd like to make the best use of their time by posting constructively.
The scrapper and aoe debates are more than likely valid - but they belong in other threads. This was our chance at a rare Q&A session with the voice of COH.
"Nerfs" aren't the end of the world. The sky was falling during the purple patch, during the drop of issue 1, and during the drop of issue 2. We're all still here, playing just as much as we used to. Are we playing the same way? No, we've had to change up our playstyle a bit... but we're still playing.
Rants and such are a part of this board, that's unavoidable. A few of us were just hoping to keep it off of this thread so we could milk States for every vague, enigmatic snippet we could.
But... that request is now a "dead horse".
Rant away.
Oh great i cant solo being a lvl 50 blaster as it is in PI(example scientists) since the 1 of the last patches, but now u r gonna make it even harder?
The only blasters that can truelly solo r Dev. blaster, not all. I sure try and die most of the time. If im not held, im sleped, or disoriented, or something. Specialy now that some villian can see thro stealth my one and only defence.
Thank u for make it so much harder to play, FUN! =/