Neeto

I also did one base raid on a SG that used me to familiarize themselves to PvP at the time. We also won a raid vs a supposed top Base Raiding SG with a score of 50 something to 3 (40 something kills were from me trapping people in corners). Lag was alright since i had a top end PC and video card, but i suspect that if you have a PoS PC like many players do, raiding is kinda out of the question. Also later that week the SG we defeated broke up and never raided again... I later quit the SG i was on to join a PvP SG... i was begged to come back because they were losing their base raids...I never went back.

I do hope that base raiding comes back. But i think that base raiding needs a whole new approach to make it more meaningful. I believe that PvP bases should have an outdoor instance that does not take up so much graphical resources on top of an indoor instance. These outdoor instances should be pre-made by the devs but chosen by the SG (ie "oh my base is a space station, you should try to raid it... OH yeah my base is an island blah blah blah..."). There would be 2 rounds of 10 min fights, but if defenders keep defenses up for 10 min in the first round outdoors, defenders win. The outdoor fight would end once the raiders defeat all appropriate base defenses and enter the door for the indoor instance. Once inside, it would be like the old base raiding system except that only essencial base raiding items like defences, items of power, power generators, hospitals, etc. are there. All non-essencial items like book shelves, banners, chairs, tables, and all that other extraneous good looking stuff and decorations would not be present. This will help improve the mechanics and balance to raiding and allow for many players of varying skill and PC levels to participate. If base raiding were more like this i think the PvPEC may employ base raiding for future PvP events since it would be more balanced this way.

I think he's refering to the VEATs being able to see stalkers. Being able to see VEAT comming at you will give you an edge in survivng getting put out of hide. Though for zones its a toss up since MoG can get you out of most any situation so it's mostly question of one's playstyle. Are u precautionary or do you react fast? and so on. Stalkers hunting stalkers is redundant since they can't really see each other if caped, however in GR, stalkers will AS others stalkers who are finishing up on ASing a squishie.

Id take crippling axe kick over shield charge (for PvP), Id take would also build to get targeting drone. Why buikd for KB protection when u have 10000% res to it.

This would make the stalker's corner stone attack very inconsistant. In some cases it would become underpowered and in other cases it would be OP. It's controversial at best and would definately be game breaking for many stalker players. However, if this did happen (which i rly don't think it would) Fight Clubbers would start using stalkers lol thats pretty ridiculous. Also attacking MMs with AS would be meaningless, when a normal attack in hide would be more effective.

One of my focuses in the above post explained that Stalkers using sharks allows them to slightly exploit the risk vs reward system in pvp. I did not forget that throwing sharks came with a long animation time, but keep in mind that stalkers only come out of hide after most of the animation is complete. This makes the long animation time irrelevant to stalker survivability. Your argument would make more sense if the stalker AT had a normal stealth cap or if the stalker came out of hide as soon has he starts to animate throw shark.

secondly, You must really hate tanks... as it is Tanks are not too useful most pvp scenarios. If a player were to bring one in an arena team match under your conditions, 2 stalkers can make said tank into a farm target lol. In other words, buffing AS like that would make tanks = free points for the other team making tanks even more useless.

Lastly, since most tanks are at at least 2400 hp if not at cap, your version of BU+AS would mean the one shot rule would almost always occur on squishie toons. This would mean stalkers would revert back to i9 damage levels (+ a few reds). Keep in mind that stalker AS prior to i13 had been concluded by the majority of the PvP community and devs as being OP'd. I'd have to conclude that this idea would not be a balanced compromise if they decide to look at balancing shark dmg.

i disagree that AS should get a buff at the expense of sharks when AS is working pretty darn well in every pvp area. Moreover, the two powers are slightly unrelated even if they belong on the same AT.

Sharks have been troublesome ever since it was made quintessential as a boost to stalker dmg, especially on teams. Hopefully a dev have noticed the trouble it has caused the pvp community and especially the PvPEC league. There are also many players who practically only use shark, placate, Fly, teleport, hibernate, and phase in PvP zones. This teands to break the reward vs risk aspect of the game since the stalker no longer needs his melee attacks to secure kills and is truely safe from getting killed himself. From a Gamer's stand point there's also minimum skill envolved in hovering, waiting for someone's health to drop to 1/4, sharking, and flying up, hibernating/phasing, and runnign back to base.

I suggest that sharks should receive the same as Energy Transfer did.

If both side were organized, i'd give it to the blasters, but ur good to point out zones since most of that is unorganized.

whats stalker stealth cap again?

If both toons are caped at stealth and perception cap, they will see each other at about the same distance because VEATs have a much higher than normal stealth cap.

So what everyone is saying is that all a VEAT has to do is tag a stalker with poison dart and that stalkers become worthless for 15 sec and has to run away or be treated like any other squishy. I think this is nice to since a well played fort is hard to see (unlike my bubbler), and can choose which stalker to reveal then runaway just like a stalker.

I also predict that elec/fire/mu will be the next fotm for dueling psi/ems. KM/Elec tanks/brutes will win at lol fight clubs (old ET animation FTW). PvP Blasters will stay on blue side cuz they fear other blasters. Rad defenders will become good again in a block of ice. New PvP zone is the new AE farm.

hmmm i wonder what AT you play. permadom used to be kind of an issue pre-i13 during duels... now it's practically not needed like most inherents.

yep ^^

and top of that don't be ATist and get racist on my ATs