So Kinetic Melee

This. It seems to have quite a lot of windup to it, and knowing the devs the damage will still be about as average as most melee sets. But by the look of it, it might have a high mag knockback at the very least.

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it doesn't mean it won't be big in Pvp,Not having Build up don't mean jack, you don't no how well a build is in pvp unless you play it. It is to soon to figure it out right now, you just have to wait until it's comes out. Beside any build and Arc-type can be use in pvp, you just need to have Skills.

It's more a matter of fitting the new set into their playstyle than finding the right playstyle for this new set to some. It's why it can be decided early on whether it's complete garbage or not.

I don't get the fear or potency of BU powers... how hard is it to avoid someone for 10 secs?

I don't see how that one power can make a set.

You dont PvP much do you? Not having build up is in fact a rather large deal.

Try killing things on dark melee outside of fiteklub and let me know how it goes.

It's slow but it can be done. With all the control DM has, you are able to kill things slowly. Obviously not going to be as strong as a Headsplitter critical with fiery embrace and build up but a few shadow mauls and midnight grasps and they'll be hurtin'.

What? All you did was describe fiteklub.

A smart person would get hit by one maybe two attacks at the most before deciding movement completely nulls this set.

Fun =/= good. Having fun with it is one thing, its still trash.

This is not a competitive sport... it's a competitive game. Fun is more important to many believe it or not.... cause it's a game, not a sport.

If it were a sport... then being good gets priority.

As helpful as you may think you're being... it isn't needed of you to assume like everyone takes it as Srs as you.

I don't know about build up..but I swear I see a move that looks like "Siphon Power" in that video. If it gets a self-buffing powers like that or a crazy (self-only) clone of fulcrum shift..I won't miss build up. I like new things and sets that break the old modes...this looks like it may do that.

Dark melee is good in pve to. Sadly this is the pvp forums, thanks for playing.

Wow, I really cannot believe you just tried to use that logic.

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There is no bad stalker PvP set lol

Well I think it's more related to the i13 changes than anything. I spent a fair time in Siren's with my EM/Nin Stalker in i11 or so, before EM nerf and Stalker buffs, and I killed lots of people. And there were lots of variety in powersets that seemed to work well.

In i12, a short time before I left, when I attained permadom on my ice/psi, I started frequenting RV a bit and teaming, and was having fun, killing lots of people (and dying some of course), but I teamed and went against various builds - did some kickballs too although I didn't do enough of them to really get the 'rhythm' of an arena 8 vs 8 match.

Now my ice/psi for example can't hold a tanker (or anybody else) for long, can't slow anyone decently unless they have gimped builds (like no SS), has no permadom in zones, etc, that old story you frequent pvpers know much better than me.

What I mean is that i13 made so many powersets obsolete, I didn't understand the changes at all. I remember once in RV on my ice/psi I went against a TA/A defender and he made my life hell, but he couldn't kill my dom, then his BS/SR buddy showed up and I had to dodge him all the time like you do with Stalkers to get some kills on the TA/A, because I couldn't hit the /SR no matter what since I wan't Mind Control. I even asked for help in the pvp forums at the time about me not being able to hit the SR, I was told to use the +tohit accolade which was nerfed later, because adding tactics wouldn't help a lot. A lot of people advised me on the thread and all of them said the only way to hit the /SR would be using the acco at the time, so that was a build that could really 'counter' my permadom Ice/Psi who killed so many tankers, regens and blasters. And hey, even the TA/A defender almost managed to kill me once because I got cocky and he used the -res arrow+PBU+Total Focus+Blazing Arrow, that took a good chunk of my health.

Nowadays, these three builds (TA/A def, BS/SR and Ice/Psi) are very subpar in my newb opinion (mostly based from what I've read here), so as many others. I won't be surprised if any new powersets won't fit in the current PvP.

Even my Em/Nin Stalker, if I return to PVP (just got back in the game so playing lowbies and powersets I haven't tried before like lolDB to get some 'freshness' feeling from the game), I'd have to IO out his secondary build to get rid of softcapped defs, chase lots of dmg bonuses, get sharks/hiber or shadowmeld/soul storm, find a way to add 41 pts of -KB, etc. For a build that worked just fine in pve and pre-i13 pvp that's a lot of work, it took me quite long to get the Stalker the way I wanted at the time (the dom, even longer), so it's quite discouraging since I'm not crazy rich and I don't feel like playing every day anymore, also due to RL stuff.

Or maybe I can just continue leveling my new DB/Elec scrapper and carry on Tiger Paw's legacy

Seriously?

I think playing my storm defender is "fun" - it does not mean it is good or viable.

His argument is correct. Fun =/= good.

People can play what they want. But, if they ask why they aren't performing very well, why should we sugar coat it?