Taunt explicitely says that its is an auto hit except for player characters ie: requires a to-hit check in pvp. However I dont think its possible for a debuff to be applied if the power never hit
The taunt part has an acc check. The -range is autohit.
I only use it for -range myself, and without any acc slotted, it works 100% of the time.
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taunt works by GET THE F OFF YOUR SR AND ROLL A REGIN SON
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Originally Posted by Daemodand
The combat log says Taunt is auto-hit but I suspect it's lying to me. I've heard the Taunt portion makes a ToHit roll, but the -Range portion (the part I'm interested in) is auto-hit. In finalizing my approach to Taunt, I need to know if this is accurate or not.
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taunt works by GET THE F OFF YOUR SR AND ROLL A REGIN SON
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+1 rep. But look on the bright side, I took Taunt at least. :grin:OK so the Taunt does require a ToHit check. The -Range gets applied even if Taunt misses? One person so far is saying that, I'd just like some confirmation ("trust but verify" as we said back in the '80s).
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I think it's stupid that there are two hit rolls for the power, but instead of showing both, it only shows the one that is autohit, because I have no way of telling what chance my taunt effect has to land.
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PvP Taunt is easy to understand:
Taunt was reworked in PvP (autohit -75% range) so that you can put bad players on an AT that rarely dies and make them feel like they contribute something to a team.
IMO its pretty stupid that someone who is horrible (ie. Kat) can find a spot on a team putting one power on autofire and putting someone on autofollow and somehow that is contribution to a team.
Anyways, I digress...
Taunters are easily overcome by front loading offense, taunters are put onto a team in hopes of reducing the opposing teams offense by n-1 (where n is the number of taunters). The more blasters you front load the less effective a taunter is.
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Good show, scrapper and tanker taunts have the same & debuff?
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In zone play, a melee without taunt is basically just a worthless bag of hp ignored until they're the last target left alive.
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Originally Posted by IcyKiri
Taunt was reworked in PvP (autohit -75% range) so that you can put bad players on an AT that rarely dies and make them feel like they contribute something to a team.
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The -75% Range thing was meant to make melees more viable, and it does. And in zones the whole "spike-x" thing is rarely an issue. Getting a PvP PuG to spike is like herding cats.
The only question remains: does the Taunt have to hit for the -Range to take effect?
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Originally Posted by Daemodand
Eh, you can say the same thing about Doms and Dominate.
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hmmm i wonder what AT you play. permadom used to be kind of an issue pre-i13 during duels... now it's practically not needed like most inherents.
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Eh, you can say the same thing about Doms and Dominate.
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domination was an issue when you had downs syndrome and didn't pop a break-free or used one of the other 200 viable tactics to counter a dom.
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Originally Posted by Neeto
hmmm i wonder what AT you play. permadom used to be kind of an issue pre-i13 during duels... now it's practically not needed like most inherents.
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Originally Posted by lucas_NA
the taunt change was a brilliant idea.
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diamff
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Tanker and Brute taunts last a base 10.25s (?) with a recharge of 10 seconds. Scrapper confront lasts 6.16s (?) but recharges in 3 seconds. They all have the -75% range debuff.
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Originally Posted by Elprede
Good show, scrapper and tanker taunts have the same & debuff?
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The combat log says Taunt is auto-hit but I suspect it's lying to me. I've heard the Taunt portion makes a ToHit roll, but the -Range portion (the part I'm interested in) is auto-hit. In finalizing my approach to Taunt, I need to know if this is accurate or not.
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